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Hyperborean said:Anyway I'm happy that the french foreign legion did not win the championship ...
dantzk8 said:The members of what you call "the french foreign legion" are french, not strangers, definately. Those who don't agree with that, here in France as in Europe, are the simplemind members of populist organisations.
dantzk.
Hyperborean said:I'm sure there are a lot more of people who agree with what I said and those who deny this (you for example) and claim otherwise (that those are not strangers despite the fact those "french" players are predominantly foreign borne) are very simple minded members of human population indeed.
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ps.:edited for spelling
Urs Linsi (FIFA) said:The new provision in par. 4 stipulates that if any player, official or spectator behaving in a discriminatory or contemptuous manner can be attributed to a certain team, three points will automatically be deducted from that team for the first offence. In the case of a second offence, six points will be deducted, and after a further offence, the team will be relegated. In the case of matches played without points being awarded, the team in question will be disqualified.
dantzk8 said:Wrong. They predominantly are born in France and anyway, once they have got the french nationality according to the laws and rules of this country they are french and nothing else. Most of the black members of this team are born or have their origins in the West India islands which are french.
You have to understand this: somes french people are black, somes black people are french.
dantzk.
Quiet Storm said:[my emphasis]
So if there's proof of Materazzi making racists comments before the headbutt occured, Italy will be disqualified, losing the title.
FIFA is currently looking into this, although as of yet, no official investigation has been started.
Hyperborean said:At the moment they are the best team and they have proven it.
Quiet Storm said:Let's recall Italy's impressive way to the title:
Preliminary round
They started off by beating Ghana (first appearance ever at a World Cup tournament for them). Italy was the slightly better team.
Second match: lucky 1:1 against the US. The Americans were better but couldn't get their shots in.
In their third appearance, they beat the Czech who never had a chance. Convincing game.
Second round
Grosso single-handedly cheated Australia out of an overtime (and probably a victory as de Rossi had been sent off before) by diving for a penalty literally seconds before the end of the game.
Quarter-final
Italy won against an outclassed Ukrainian team, who beat Switzerland in the penalties in the second round in the most boring match in younger World Cup history. This year's World Cup was the first Ukraine qualified for.
Semi-final
After Italian TV got Germany's Torsten Frings out of the way, the Italian team managed to advance by scoring two minutes before overtime ran out. Half of the Italian players were whining for free kicks throughout the game.
Final
France was the better team by such a wide margin that they should've won 3:1. Italy was totally outclassed even after Zidane was sent off. Italy won the penalty shootout.
Good job!![]()
Quiet Storm said:Yeah right, just like they totally dominated France in the final.![]()
To quote myself:
Let me guess, you're one of those people who are into soccer only when it's World Cup time and then you act like you're some big expert when in reality you have no clue at all?![]()
Hyperborean said:Naturally no team can play 100% every match but if you look whole results Italians were the best performers overall.
Hyperborean said:Nope, I have followed Italian football over several years and it has gotten better with every championship.
Hyperborean said:The only dubious match was that against Australia but such things unfortunately happen in football...I bet you wouldn't have any objections at all if germany was in place of italia in that particular match ....
Quiet Storm said:This is so far from the truth that it's just laughable, plain and simple. Just ask a few people from all over the world which team performed best.
Quiet Storm said:If by "Italian football" you mean Serie A, you should add "when they're not busy bribing the refs".![]()
Quiet Storm said:German players (like most others in the world) rarely dive like girls, so that probably wouldn't have happened. It didn't happen in the Poland game either, when the German team scored fair and square very late in the game. Oh, and Germany was actually the better team...
Most Italian players are first rate crybabies and I stand by my statement above: you have no clue whatsoever about soccer.
Hyperborean said:Nope, I have followed Italian football over several years and it has gotten better with every championship.
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No, I meant italian football as played on european and world championships.
Hyperborean said:Well, if you ask people where where I live, most will probably admit it was the italian.At least I have got such impression as majority people at "pubs" where you could watch the matches cheered for italian team.
Hyperborean said:Personally, for me the germans players are annoying to watch,actually the whole german game is annoying because it lacks creativity and temperament, it's simpy too mechanical....
Hyperborean said:(except Miroslav Klose, who is a Polish anyway)
Hyperborean said:to claim that germany was better team is a poor comfortn and to others is simply ridiculous statement.