It's not all hearts and roses.....

[coote]

Great thread. I missed this one back in 2010. I like the cord pouch that retains the psk.

I agree that you have to be careful of stretchy ropes under tension. However, when you need to use a makeshift winch in the bush then one has to be grateful for any strong rope that you have in your kit. Nylon stretches a lot, but that is a desirable quality in a rope used for climbing or making snares... the stretch helps the rope to absorb shock. Because the Kochanski winch is likely to be on the ground, then the rope is likely to be close to the ground and away from the operators face. Nevertheless, the possibility of rope breakage and whiplash should be kept in mind. So keeping your face away from the rope under tension is a good idea.

When I was quite young, I was helping my Dad haul a 18 foot boat up a sandy beach. The tide was fairly low, and we'd wheeled the boat trailer down to the sea and had successfully got the boat on the trailer. But we could not hitch the trailer to the car because the car would sink in the sand.... so we had to pull the boat up the beach with a nylon rope that was maybe 1/2" in diameter. Dad operated the car, and I tried to take some weight off the jockey wheel in front. Twice the rope broke and whipped me across the body. It was an unpleasant experience, and I now realize how dangerous it was.

 

[dantzk8]

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This one is very simple, i wouldn't use it for an heavy load, it wouldn't slip but it could damage the rope:

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This one seems to me good. Can store a long length of rope. Easy to untie even when very tightened by an heavy load:

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Many applications to this knot. Sling:

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Handle. Here with a modified Matthew Walker:

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dantzk.

 

[DOC-CANADA]

Great thread. I missed this one back in 2010. I like the cord pouch that retains the psk.

Hey sc, glad you like the pouch (and the thread, of course )

Hey dantzk8, you've been a busy guy and you certainly have risen to the challenge, but I question one point - I doubt if any of these knots would be quicker, or even as quick as the extended Marlinspike Hitch. Of course, I realize this is easy to say, sitting here many miles from where you are, so, what I'm going to do is........ In a couple of weeks, my buddy Phil and I have to get out and field test a new knife. At the same time, I'm going to ask Phil to video my tying of the extended Marlinspike Hitch and you can see how fast it is. Then you can tie any or all of those knots and report how they measure up. What say you?

Also I would be interested in a bit of a breakdown of how this knot is tied.

When looking at this knot, I thought it looked very familiar.

I just realized this is basically how I make a quickee sling pocket for tennis balls (for playing about).

Doc

 

[dantzk8]

Hi Doc,

Here's the making of the first knot. I let you judge of the quickness.

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The making of the second one. Good eye on this one, it's basically a sheepshank but, my mistake, i don't do it exactly the same way i did for the sling (made some years ago).
On this one i won't argue about speed. Nevertheless i think it's a good knot for storing very long lengths of rope.

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I've made the marlinspike hitch. All the hitch knots i know are of a great value. This one doesn't make exception. The most surprising is the amount of rope it stores, much more than i thought in a first time. I've to admit, not bad at all.

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The truth is i know how useful a toggle can be but i know by experience that it's a good way to learn by taking a bias. No this or no that and manage your own.
By the way here is a small toggle i carry in my "knot kit". I made it a long time ago for a backcorded bow:

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Doc, any update about rope making?

dantzk.

 

[DOC-CANADA]

Hi Doc,

Here's the making of the first knot. I let you judge of the quickness.

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Damn, I think you have me on speed but maybe the extended Marlinspike Hitch is easier on the rope? What do you think? And how about lengthening a bit for adjustment for that knot - you would have to completely untie it? I have to admit, though, I like this knot - filed into my knot folder.

I have another toggled length adjustment knot for you down below.


The making of the second one. Good eye on this one, it's basically a sheepshank but, my mistake, i don't do it exactly the same way i did for the sling (made some years ago).
On this one i won't argue about speed. Nevertheless i think it's a good knot for storing very long lengths of rope.

Not sure what I think of this one yet - I need to play with it more

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I've made the marlinspike hitch. All the hitch knots i know are of a great value. This one doesn't make exception. The most surprising is the amount of rope it stores, much more than i thought in a first time. I've to admit, not bad at all. I thought you'd like it - very fast for smaller adjustments, such as raising something a little bit

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The truth is i know how useful a toggle can be but i know by experience that it's a good way to learn by taking a bias. No this or no that and manage your own.
By the way here is a small toggle i carry in my "knot kit". I made it a long time ago for a backcorded bow:

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What use did you put it to?


Doc, any update about rope making? On this, you have me puzzled. I've done some cordage threads but I don't remember the thread you're referring to.

dantzk.

OK, I've been playing with this one quite a bit, in fact, I use it at work but I'm still working some of the bugs out of it. It's basically a slider - one way, you just push the toggle and it shortens - as soon as you tension it, it locks in place - if you want to lengthen it, you grab the (cordage) knot and pull. It's on lengthening it, that it can be a bit of a problem - one solution I found was to make the cordage loop large enough so that the cord can easily slide around the toggle, but not so big that the toggle can come out of the loop. When you 'lock' it down, the toggle twists a bit, but stays in place.

This is probably hard to understand - might have to make a video on this too.

Doc

 

[dantzk8]

Doc,

I'm happy you like this (noname) knot. The marlinspike hitch is definitely easier on the rope and allows a length adjustement that "my" knot doesn't. It's much more a knot to make in a hurry ("tie this tarp before it flies away!"). I do like the Marlinspike hitch, i've put it in the notepad where i draw all the knots for which i've an interest. Thanks a lot Doc.

About the toggle and twist hitch. I think i understand how it works and the why of the "this, not this". I will play with this one and will tell you how it works for me. Not sure however that it will be better than the "perfect adjustable grip hitch" you certainly know.

The toggle was made for a backcorded bow. For what i know it was an Inuit technique. Roughly said it's a technique which allows to make of a piece of unproper wood a decent bow by adding a braided cordage on the back of the bow. The cordage will give to the wood the mechanical properties the wood doesn't have. The toggle is there to rule the tension of the braid.

Doc, keep tuned, you gave me a lot to experiment and i will tell you how it works for me.

dantzk.

 

[Diomedes Industries]

Wait - so there were GLOVES harmed in the making of this thread?

I am calling PETG!

You will be treated as all criminals of this type are Doc!




With congratulations thanks for a great thread.


TF