It's really bugging me! First time backpacking.

I'm too busy today to read all the responses but if I was you I'd travel far enough to get away from the area you fear. If you have that fear in ya head then you are not going to enjoy your wilderness time and might as well stay at home.
The outdoors is a place that you should feel relaxed and peacefull in so if that means you have to travel a little further to such a place then I say do that.

Hope ya work it out and have a blast !
 
I have 320 nights camping over 30 years mostly with the boy scouts. In that time we have 1) been robbed and had our car stolen, 2) walked into a camp where three men were trying to rape two women, who happened to be armed and ran the three men out of camp, and 3) had a drug dealer running a brothel in a boy scout camp off season threaten to kill two of my scouts with a knife (they hid) and the cops arrested the guys (wanted for murder out of california). Never had an animal problem. After the last incident two fathers (whom were LEO) helped me pick the proper sidearm to carry always. (.357 S&W Model 60). And yes, I have a CWP. All this happened in Oregon and Washington on State/Federal/scout land. Have not had an incident since. I am not paranoid, neither am I a victum. I never carry in town. I always carry in the woods.
Each person must decide would they be able to use a gun if needed.
A young man from my church leagally used a gun to kill a crazed drug addict breaking into his home with a visible knife threatening to kill him. The police said it was justifiable. The incident nearly destroyed his life.
If you wont use the gun, do not carry.
 
Yeah honestly in about 15 years of camping and backpacking... The closer you are to civilization the more annoying people are... If you are the avid car camper that you say you are you have probably already experienced/know the worst that could happened to you. People don't backpack with 30 racks of beers in coolers, that's a car camping thing
 
As a minimum I usually carry Bear spray (can be on non bears in self defence) and a couple of different knives. If I lived in the US I would probably carry a handgun of some kind.

As another person wrote, the more off the beaten track you are, the less chance you will run into problem people.
 
schwagster said:
I have been on four hikes that were 110+ miles each. I have never needed a gun nor have I ever brought one. I am able to carry a gun in any state and just about anywhere else, including on airplanes, and the one place I don't want to carry is when I'm camping. I just figure that when you are out in the woods, that's the time where my worries melt away and I don't ever worry about getting mugged or victimized. This is just my opinion, but I wouldn't take the gun. Plus they are heavy and if you have an issue with a misfire, help is hours or even days away. I would bring a knife, as they can come in handy. However this is just my opinion, I'm sure that other people have various opinions as well.
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Sheriffs can carry on airplanes? I didn't think you could?
 
Codger_64 said:
My brother does and he is not a LEO. He is a Senior Pilot for a major airline.
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That just means he's a federal flight deck officer. That's a different story all together.

(edit) And if I'm not mistaken he can only carry it in its lockbox unless he's in the cockpit with the door locked behind him. If the first officer has to get up to piss, he's got to lock up his firearm until the door is closed and locked again. Unless the rules have changed. I've always felt that those rules are pretty much counter to the whole point of having a firearm in the cockpit anyway.
 
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Rick Marchand said:
Typical U.S. retort to an unsurprising Canadian response.:D
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Appreciate ".....unsurprising Canadian response".:thumbup: I do a lot of business and have many friends in Canada. Every one of them badgers me about my firm belief in our 2nd Amendment. It gets irritating but I take it in stride.

The culture, climate, crime rates and per capita populated land mass is very different.

I respect your beliefs and appreciate that you respect mine.
 
Bring perimeter wire, electronic microwave doorbells and sleep in shifts. Dress inflatable dolls as decoys and set them around your camp, sharpen the ends of your fire wood and secure it in a defensive barrier in case you are attacked by mounted warriors.
 
Bumppo said:
Bring perimeter wire, electronic microwave doorbells and sleep in shifts. Dress inflatable dolls as decoys and set them around your camp, sharpen the ends of your fire wood and secure it in a defensive barrier in case you are attacked by mounted warriors.
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You forgot the Claymores.

I always bring a gun and knife (or three) backpacking.
 
GPB said:
I do a lot of business and have many friends in Canada. Every one of them badgers me about my firm belief in our 2nd Amendment. It gets irritating but I take it in stride.
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Same here. How often do Canadians get shot in the States? :confused:

On topic, not sure what the controversy is. Since you seem to have a grasp of where and when you can carry, and want to, do it.

Over time, perhaps, you might either rely on it less and less and eventually not bother with the weight, or you might be able to identify which areas you don't need a weapon and which areas...well, it might be better.

A firearm is really like any other tool: there are situations in which you'd rather have it and not need it. Once you get comfortable, you might not bother. Whatever.

And really--that's the truth of it: it's up to you. Don't listen to us.
 
Watchful said:
Same here. How often do Canadians get shot in the States? :confused:

On topic, not sure what the controversy is. Since you seem to have a grasp of where and when you can carry, and want to, do it.

Over time, perhaps, you might either rely on it less and less and eventually not bother with the weight, or you might be able to identify which areas you don't need a weapon and which areas...well, it might be better.

A firearm is really like any other tool: there are situations in which you'd rather have it and not need it. Once you get comfortable, you might not bother. Whatever.

And really--that's the truth of it: it's up to you. Don't listen to us.
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Excellent post!

Do what you feel is appropriate for your situation and AO and don't listen to us, or anyone else.
 
I think that as long as you know what you're doing, and you aren't doing anything illegal in the process, bring the firearm. WI doesn't have a concealed carry law, but I can open carry most places. I don't normally have many problems when camping/backpacking, but anything can happen so I carry most of the time. It's all about being prepared, and that means making sure you have the proper training to carry and use the firearm. If being prepared to you means carrying a pistol, then do it.

Keep in mind, however, that in the untrained hand a pistol can get you killed. If you have not trained with it and would be uncomfortable using it in a self defense situation, then brandishing it in a hostile situation can cause a conflict that would have been minor if you were unarmed to turn into something completely different and possibly deadly if you brandish the firearm and fail to gain control of the situation.
 
is the only use of a firearm defense against other homo sapiens????

ok ill list a few non human killing uses

lost and hungry, hey theres a raccoon...

ive fallen and i cant get up and i know people are looking for me but they have to search a large area, i bet this will make a lout noise...

oh look at the beautiful fauna, um get along mr bear im just hear to look, no really i come in peace, wow you would think there would be a tree with low branches around here some where, look she has cubs, how cute!!!!

im cold and wet and i just cant get a fire started, ill use my lethermen and pull out this lead and pour the powder on this pile of damp tinder and...


it dosent have to be
look theres a street gang throwing signs at the corner of that trail

gun = multitool
 
Look at the guy's location, people. Friggin Los Angeles.

The "homies" are a very real threat. They've taken to going into the somewhat wilder areas to victimize people, do their dealings, and do their "production" of what they deal in.


Carry your gun, dude. And in that area, I'd carry whether legal or not -- the homies aren't going to obey the law.

Besides, camping with guns, is a piece of Americana.

I'd suspect that a lot of the negative responses are from people who've never been to a dangerous area, or if they have, have never had to fight for their lives. Once you've had to fight for your life, your perspective is forever altered.
 
Thanks all! Silverbullet, Cpl Punishment, you guys got it on the point and many of you others also!

I just got back from my ten mile loop in my local mountains, what can i say. It was a experience, I learned many things. Briefly, don't bring salty can foods, jeez I was so thirsty I nearly drank all my water from my pack. In addition, not really a learning experience but got dang it was nice up in the mountains. Very quiet all you can hear is nature, as an example. I heard the animals at night, huge spiders, and darkness! All in all, i'm glad I brought my tools it made me sleep better at night. If any life threatening threat were to arise I would be prepared to possible eliminate that threat.
It's interesting that you guys pointed out my location, I'm not going to lie the wilderness is a local hangout for all kinds of deviant individuals and a clear sign of it is tagging! Once i see tagging my internal alarm goes off, that is one of many reasons to include a firearm in your bag! Thanks for listening.
 
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