It's Y2K and you have only 3 knives

My 2cts worth:
1. A Parang. The local Malaysian Parang seems like a good alternative to either a machete or an axe, both of which I don't own at the moment. It can be used for gathering food and fuel, and still be useful in a fight. I wanted to put down a Khukri, but realised that I might not be able to get it in time.

2. SOG SEAL 2000. It's more robust than the few other fighting/utility knives I own.

3. Leatherman Wave. Slightly more versatile than my SAK. But if Leathermans and SAKs are not considered knives (ie I have one more choice), then I would carry my Al Mar Spyder, a fairly robust fighting/utility folder.

These choices are based on my current horde of knives, not on a unlimited budget, no waiting time dream. But I would love for someone to poke holes in my selection. Then at least I know where I've gone wrong.
 
1) RTAK (alt...CS GL Kukri)
2)CS Recon Scout
3)Bm 910 Stryker
I would Pack a Multi-tool of some type too but I don't consider them to be knives so I didn't list it.
 
This is an interesting question, as it led me to realize that for most intents and purposes, I have already become a three-knife person. While camping or chores around the abode, I find that I have been using these three pretty much exclusively:

Busse INFI Steel Heart II

Rinaldi BG-42 TKK

Reeve small Sebenza

Remember, in the original question, we were talking just knives, but in expanding the scope a bit, I would include my ever-present Leatherman Super Tool.

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Don LeHue

The pen is mightier than the sword...outside of arm's reach. Modify radius accordingly for rifle.


 
More thoughts . . .

For my primary defensive weapon, I'd want a gun. And if I'm moving around a lot on foot, I might want a stout walking stick, which can double as a clobbering tool. For heavy duty woodwork, the hatchet and the saw are not usually counted as "knives," and so might be exempt from this odd limit of three. Therefore I might not need the nine inch knife.

To repeat a rant that I've ranted in other threads like this, a lot of the responses up there seem to assume that somebody else is doing the cooking, or that the knives we use the most don't count as knives.

For more choices in cutlery, not to mention better chances of survival over all, consider going into post-apocalyptic survival mode as part of a family and/or closely knit community of some sort. That way, not everybody would need to have the Leatherman Wave or the HI Ang Kola.


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www.chaicutlery.com
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Let's see, the small sebenza in my pocket, the Victorinox mini-champ 2 that's on my keychain and maybe the SAK in my glove box. Why? Because Y2K will not generate this massive survival situation that's got everyone so scared... Sure, things will go wrong here and there but all of middle America will not be forced to migrate into the wilderness to survive. There, off my soap box.

Now, WW3 hits, nuclear devastation with still-livable wilderness areas... I'd go for a Leatherman, probably the Wave. I'd also go for a decent personal sized fixed blade, probably something in Talonite with a a 3.5" to 4.5" blade (barring that an SRK from Cold Steel), and something bigger. Maybe a kuhkri of some sort. That's assuming other tools will also be available. If not the Ontario(?) Spax(?) or one of those multi-use sharpened, saw toothed spades would replace the smaller of the two fixed blades.

Jon
 
My Fowler 16" machete, my Battle Mistress, and the Keith Kilby damascus utility I'm *supposed* to have by November.
 
I would take grnamin (above) knives away from him with my Glock 19 with night sights.


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RICK LEFTIES UNITE


 
Heh, heh, I got an advantage. I can carry alot more knives cause I got six kids with the seventh on the way. That way we each get to carry 3 of my knives. So far that makes me able to have 24 knives to choose from.
 
Well, here are my choices:

A Kit Carson #18 folder in Talonite (r) with Ti scales. Rugged, large folder with 4" blade, yet good ergonomics and fits into pocket easily.

Kit Carson small U-2 dive knife in Talonite (r). Best all around salvage, prying, cutting tool there is. G-10 scales.

Mad Dog ATAK2; the large model with serrations. Better than the Carson for fighting and piercing things, as it has a point (the U-2 is blunt tipped), yet can do double duty as a general purpose tool.

While not really knives, actually pieces of plastic with small steel inserts on the ends, I would include some scalpels; good for digging out splinters and the like.

I would also have a few Tuf-Cloths for the ATAK2. Ones presaturated with Tuf-Glide, so that some can be squeezed out if I need to have a bit of pivot lube. The first two knives are absolutely corrosion proof, which is one reason I chose them. Toss in an EZ-Lap diamond sharpener, and I will be set.

Walt
 
Interesting Q, Uncle Bill!

But I must say, everyone's answers to date are hopelessly pathetic.

After reading Vampire Gerbil's website, why would you need anything more than a Micra?

Everything else is dead weight!

Glen


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"What's so funny 'bout peace, love, and understanding?" -Elvis Costello
 
It's not a knife, but don't forget to pack a shovel or entrenching tool of some sort.

12Designate a place outside the camp where you can go to relieve yourself.
13As part of your equipment have something to dig with, and when you relieve yourself, dig a hole and cover up your excrement.
14For the LORD your God moves about in your camp to protect you and to deliver your enemies to you. Your camp must be holy, so that he will not see among you anything indecent and turn away from you.
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- Deuteronomy 20:12-14

God cares about field sanitation, and post-apocalyptic water-born diseases will be at least as deadly an enemy as whoever the bad guys are!

And maybe the entrenching tool can also serve as a hack-chopping close quarters weapon, freeing up that slot for a more practical working knife. It also might come in handy if somebody decides that refugees make a nice safe target for artillery target practice.
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Here are a couple more visions, from a couple of different dayd, of a Y2K set under the arbitrary rule of this thread. Either of them would have you better equipped in the cutlery department than the average refugee.

First, a single brand ensemble:
www.chaicutlery.com/chrisreeve/almarltd-153longandshort-plussmallsebenza-512x354.jpg

Next, a non-tactical practical economy set. You will want something good for agriculture and shelter building, and you'll want to eat.
www.chaicutlery.com/images/postapocalypticcutleryset.jpg

I think I'll break the rule of three, however, and make sure there's a Leatherman type tool and an SAK in the mix. The ability to fix things might make somebody a little more willing to share food and clean water with me.

Of course, a lot depends on one's priorities. Is the object survival? Or is it victory in whatever war one is on one side of? The two goals may overlap, of coarse, and we should remember Hobbes' vision of life in a state of nature: "Nasty, brutish, and short."


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- JKM
www.chaicutlery.com
AKTI Member # SA00001
 
I think Walt Welch has the same idea as mine. I thought about the ATAK2 but did not want to deal with the maintenance. My three knives are basically corrosion proof and can be cleaned by boiling or rinsing in clean water. I went back to Vietnam with a MD Mako and the maintenance was quite high to keep it clean and sharp. I was visiting a relative in the new economic zone (i.e. the jungle).
 
Darn...I'll never get that Busse knife now
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I would have to go with:

1) Victorionox Champ SAK (Plenty of tools)
2) Randall Mod 14 (heavier utility knife)
3) Leatherman Wave (More tools)

These would nicely complement a Ruger Government (22LR), Weatherby 300Mag, and a Colt 45APC (Goldcup).

By the way I'm all for civilization. So if anyone is interested in joining the tribe just let me know by Dec. 31, 1999. Active recruiting starts the day after civilization ends.
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Everybody seems to have the same general feelings I do. I want to add a smart aleck remark, but I will refrain.

For all-around heavy utility, I would choose a 20" Ang Khola or Sirupati from HI http://members.aol.com/himimp/index.html

For pure defense, I'd have to go with a Millennium Fighter from Jerry Hossom www.hossom.com A knife that "will never touch the feet".

For a good practical pocketknife I'd want an excellent folder like a large Sebenza from Chris Reeve http://www.chrisreeve.com/index.html

I've carried such combos into extended survival camps in the Great Basin Desert and the High Uintahs in the Rockies. I have confidence in my choices.

(Pocketknives are still practical due to their ease of carry. Even when I'm in the woods many miles from anyone else I still carry a pocketknife.)

These should go well with my M1A-A1 Scout Rifle, my Tillman Custom .45, and my PM-2 Clip-Fed Shotgun.

Zog
 
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