I've seen some stupid-designed serrations lately

all you had to say is that serrations get hung up on clothing. that sentence right there is easy enough to imagine. get to the point man!
 
I think that you need to realize that serrations are good and useful for alot of other things besides just stabbing things. As far as serrations getting caught on cloths/ fibrous material, the spyderco rescue wouldn't be such a popular model if it wasn't effective (it also wouldn't be the basis for about a hundred other models).

The same thing goes for the Matriarch and Civilian for defense. I think that as a self-proclaimed knife designer, you would see that the point is not the only part of this knife that is used in a defense situation. The Civilian is a useful defense piece not only because of it's penetrating tip, but also because of the hook of the S curve and also the pronounced belly. Serrations seem ideal for slashes with this knife especially if you break the tip. If you've hefted one, you'd see what I mean.

I'm still curious about the 3 level serrations.
Matt
 
Originally posted by Zytif
Who said I actually did that? You're imagining things now. You're the SILLY one. What'd you do take my advice? Is your wife (or husband?) all pissed off at you now because you ruined their jacket? I've never once in my life stabbed a jacket or parka. I thought the desciption of it would spark enough imagination in the reader, but I guess with some people that doesn't come easy. Can't you just picture the effects? I guess not...:rolleyes: Stab anything with deep toothy serrations. Hell, try an old rotten pumpkin covered in wet newspaper and you'll get similar effects. You'll get a knife with pieces of whatever you've stabbed stuck to the blade making a speedy second stab more difficult. Then try stabbing the old rotten useless pumpkin with a plain edge dagger. Then my little forum friend you will see the light.
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So basically Zytif, you are admitting that your "knowledge" doesn't come from first-hand experience.:rolleyes: Basically everybody should take all your gripes of different things with a grain of salt, because they are just what you imagine to be the case, not what you have truely experienced. I just love the guys that have diarrhea of the mouth all the time, bashing different things when they don't have any real experience with what they are bashing.:rolleyes:

Hey, you said it. I just pointed out the obvious.

Mike
 
big box of crayons and a KNIFE!
I used to carry a spydco Civilian till I broke 1/16th off the tip...
Then went to MT SOCOM ELITE but shouldn't have carried it because I ruined the value (2 tone blade) but a very utilitarian knife.
Presently carry the UT-6 but am probably making the same (value) mistake... UT-6 fails to function when it gets pretty cold btw.
 
I don't want to be rude, but I believe it's spelled kraton. If krayton is just another way to spell it,then I apologize. I'm just trying to keep people from getting confused. Also, I'm not sure if you realize it or not, but the Gator has a Zytel frame covered in Kraton. Here's the link
 
I just started taking Salic Kali with Guro Jeff and most of the attacks are slashes.

Before I started the classes, I did a "tryout" sparring session with one of the less experienced students (lowlife in this here forums). I've had minimal military type training and I noticed that although stabs are more damaging, the majority of your attacks are slashes especially when your opponent has a knife. One cannot commit to being close enough and long enough to stab without exposing themselves to the same damage.
 
Originally posted by Jazzman
The Civilian is a useful defense piece not only because of it's penetrating tip, but also because of the hook of the S curve and also the pronounced belly. Serrations seem ideal for slashes with this knife especially if you break the tip. If you've hefted one, you'd see what I mean.
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Serrations don't work particularly well at slashes, either. Both of these knives would be more effective for that with straight edges. Serrations would be better for 'sawing', like if you were wrestling on top of the other guy and had plenty of time and power to deliver a ripping cut. If you ever actually get into one of these situations, and your serrated edge just leaves a series of nasty scratches rather than slicing to the bone... well, I warned ya.
 
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