Ivory Handle Beauty Contest

I don't care for the mammoth tooth either but will take premium fossil ivory over most any other handle material.
 
maxmm said:
All this time I thought I loved the look of white ivory because it was an elegant, yet understated and incredibly complementary looking knife-handle material. I've learned my lesson tho. For ivory to be "beautiful" and "stand out" on a knife, it has to be loud and garish!
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You learned this where, exactly?:confused:

Roger
 
RogerP said:
You learned this where, exactly?:confused:

Roger
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Roger, I learned it from you and the other guy who tried to teach me that fossil ivory is better, and my personal preference towards pre-ban ivory is the wrong one :confused:

Maybe if the knives I posted were forged MS bowies, the post would have gotten a more positive response? :jerkit:
 
maxmm said:
Roger, I learned it from you and the other guy who tried to teach me that fossil ivory is better, and my personal preference towards pre-ban ivory is the wrong one :confused:

Maybe if the knives I posted were forged MS bowies, the post would have gotten a more positive response? :jerkit:
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One of us has a substantial problem with basic reading and comprehension. Please show me where I said that fossil ivory is better? Or that pre-ban ivory is the wrong choice?

Take a deep breath, and read my post again. All I said was that it is hard to differentiate one piece of "white" ivory (elephant or mammoth) from another, and as such, it is hard to express a preference for one piece of white ivory over another. In other words - it's hard to say that the white ivory on the Fisk bowie is "nicer" than the white ivory on the Hancock or the Dean or the Primos.

Follow now?

:jerkit: Yourself.

Roger
 
Hey Roger, thats a real classy move there from a senior member, telling me to f*ck myself?

anyways...

If you cant see the negativity in your post, maybe you should go back and re-read this thread. See if you can come up with even a single post in response to a picture, that comes close to matching the elitest attitude and patronizing tone of your response to my pics.

one really good piece of elephant ivory or white mammoth looks much like any other good piece of the same material, so on what basis does one express a preference for one piece over another?
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Here you are intimating that "different" looking somehow equates to better. That is ok, if thats your basis for deciding what you like.

But is it so impossible to believe that someone else might prefer smooth ivory over bark or a piece with blobs of random color, or some gnarly texture?

Where do you get off questioning the basis of my own preferences because it doesnt match yours? What do you think my basis is? Its from handling and collecting knives with these materials on them. Like everyone else I base MY opinion on MY experience. So spare me the lecture, OK teach?
 
maxmm said:
Hey Roger, thats a real classy move there from a senior member, telling me to f*ck myself?

anyways...

If you cant see the negativity in your post, maybe you should go back and re-read this thread. See if you can come up with even a single post in response to a picture, that comes close to matching the elitest attitude and patronizing tone of your response to my pics.

Here you are intimating that "different" looking somehow equates to better. That is ok, if thats your basis for deciding what you like.

But is it so impossible to believe that someone else might prefer smooth ivory over bark or a piece with blobs of random color, or some gnarly texture?

Where do you get off questioning the basis of my own preferences because it doesnt match yours? What do you think my basis is? Its from handling and collecting knives with these materials on them. Like everyone else I base MY opinion on MY experience. So spare me the lecture, OK teach?
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Okay - definitely no doubt as to who has the reading and comprehension problem. There was no negativity in my post - and no declaration, explicit or implied that cloured ivory is better than plain white. There was only a statement - which I challenge you to refute - that one piece of white ivory is hard to distinguish from another in a photograph. If you can't understand that, I can't help you. Obviously you chose, for reasons known only to yourself, to ignore the ver first line of my response where I say that I like the white stuff.

And if you are able to show me where I questioned your basis for your preferences I would be grateful. Better to quote from my actual post and not from whatever discussion is taking place within the confines of your own fertile imagination.

Oh, and the :jerkit: was in response to your use of same - seems your memory is a bit short.

Please do try to get over yourself already.

Roger

Here, let me make it easy for you. Here is my response again in it's entirety, only bolded here and there to draw certain aspects of it to your attention:

RogerP said:
I like the look of the white stuff as well, but the difficulty with those pieces for the purposes of this poll is that one really good piece of elephant ivory or white mammoth looks much like any other good piece of the same material, so on what basis does one express a preference for one piece over another? Take the excellent knives posted by Peter (above) by Primos, Dean, Hancock and Fisk. I love the look of all of them. But I would have no reason to say that one piece of ivory is better than the other, because there isn't any meaningful way to discern that one piece of ivory is different from the other (at least, not from photos alone).

Each "busy looking bark piece" is at least distinguishable from another.

Roger
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Oh you're so right - me saying I "like the white stuff" and "I love the look of all of them" (in reference to the named white-ivory knives) is clearly a) negative, b) telling you that your preference for white ivory is wrong. :rolleyes: :jerkit:
 
maxmm, get off your horse. Roger has not said anything condescending or elitist. He's just saying that smooth ivory is hard to appreciate in picture, and that the differences from one piece to the next are subtle.
 
RogerP said:
:jerkit: Yourself.

Roger
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That's a direct quote and there is only ONE way that you can comprehend that statement.

RogerP said:
Oh you're so right - me saying I "like the white stuff" and "I love the look of all of them" (in reference to the named white-ivory knives) is clearly a) negative, b) telling you that your preference for white ivory is wrong.
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You left a key word out of BOTH of those quotes from your post. Both times you state you like/love the "white stuff", you qualify it with a "but", and go on to tell me why you think a white Ivory handle could not be considered most beautiful in this thread.

"like the white stuff, but..."

"I love the look of all of them, but..."

If this is not clear enough... :rolleyes:
 
Great thread,awesome ivory(s) and knives, :thumbup:
whether ya' like the smooth white or the bark. :rolleyes:

Doug
 
maxmm said:
You left a key word out of BOTH of those quotes from your post.
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I left nothing out. Neither my initial post nor my quote of same have been edited (save boldface added to the latter). I will leave the last word to you, though I don't expect it to make any sense. I'm done discussing this with you - I have neither the time nor the inclination to attempt to pierce veil of ignorance that stands between you and reality.

Once more about the :jerkit: - you used it first, then complain about me doing the same? You are funny.

Roger
 
maxmm said:
For ivory to be "beautiful" and "stand out" on a knife, it has to be loud and garish!
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I like ALL ivory. The smooth white is nice in one way where the colorful rough is nice in another.

Sounds like you have much more dislike for colored ivory than Roger has for the white stuff.

Personally, I think the more color the better, as it amazes me how such beautiful colors and pattern can be produced naturally. It adds character to the ivory and the knife it adorns.
 
Returning to the topic at hand - I am generally reluctant to post other members' pics, but I didn't want this contest to close without these terrific pieces joining the fray. All knives by Hanson, all photos (except the last) by Ari (Megalobyte):

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Roger
 
While I don't believe i have ever meet a piece of ivory that i didnt like,These have to rate right up there as my favorites.

1st one by Stan Wison
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2nd the same one by Stan Wilson with differant lighting.
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3rd, a differant Stan Wilson (Photo from Stans site)
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And of course Don Hansen
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Hope im OK stealing images to show my favorites. Please correct me if i'm wrong
Cheers
Kelly
 
Dang, I go out to dinner and all heck breaks loose around here. :eek:

Kumbaya, Kumbaya! Where is Coop, when we need him?

P
 
someone go after Roger.:eek:

Whoa! Must be gonna rain or something?

Max-Roger is one of the most mellow Forumites to hang here. If he was any more mellow/mellower, he would be sleeping.:D

You were premature on the :jerkit: smiley, if you just apologize, no harm, no foul.

Otherwise, the regulars will remember it, and that would be bad.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
There are some incredible knives in this thread - thanks to all who have posted. It will be a difficult choice as to which one is best .... its always hard for me to separate the material from the total package.

Stephen
 
just came across that Stan Wilson folder the other night on his site and boy oh boy, that is one folder I would have love to have gotten. It is magnificent!!!
 
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