Jacks Last Stand ...

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I would hate to think that just because someone posts something that is contrary to the accepted "norms" on BF, everyone would vote to BAN that person.

I post what I have to say, and I am not that naive to believe that everyone luvs my Butt and agrees with everything I post because I am a nice guy. I say what I have to say, and if ya do not agree with it, post a rebuttal and if you just flat out hate what I post DO NOT READ IT, Put me on IGNORE!!!

BUT, I am quite a bit different than JAXURMAN. I am a knife lover and Jack is a freaking knife DEALER. I have said this before and I will say it until Spark Bans me or I die. I do not sell or trade knives to come out on top, try my hardest to be a productive member of all parts of BF, NOT JUST THE KNIFE EXCHANGE, and I would rather give someone a decent knife as a gift, then sell it for a profit, and I ain't no PLAYA.

Jack screwed up. He is all bent out of shape because he wants to believe he can buy and sell every knife on BF because he has the cash to do it. If you believe for one minute he wanted that TNT because it said "Prototype", come to New Hampshire and buy some beautiful swamp land I have for sale. What a crock!!!! Jack, the DEALER knows that there was some very quick and easy profit buying that TNT and that's why Jack wanted it, to DEAL it for a profit.

In the process, he stepped on toes like he always does, used high pressure tactics like he always does. lost control like he always does, claims it is an issue of integrity, when it really is about money and when the freaking hole is so deep, he tells us of the terrible loss he feels by the death of his Dad six months ago.

My condolences Jack, for the tenth time, but about six months ago NYFD Firefighter BRIAN FAHEY was killed in the line of duty. He was a wonderful father of a small child, a great husband and a very close friend. And on 09-11-01, many of us lost loved ones in a needless act of terror. I am a born and raised New Yorker from the Bronx, and I not only lost family, I lost close friends. But I will never use their memory, their lives or their death as an "excuse" to be a JERK. My DEAD Mother would raise from her grave and bitch-slap me into the dirt if I acted like you have on this forum.

Jack, grow the ****Up will ya? Stop acting like a Playa cuz you do a poor job of it. Try adding some "class" to your style. Do you know what a jerk who wears a ROLEX watch, drives a BMW, and has a pocket full of cash is Jack? A JERK..........................Ira
 
Doc,

I think I'll just sit here and watch. This is getting very interesting. :eek: :barf: :rolleyes:

n2s
 
Let's see, how does that old saying go??

"If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and flies/swims like a duck, it must be a duck."

I could have that a bit wrong, it still works though. Now if we insert the word "DEALER" for duck in the case at hand.... :D

Remind me to NEVER piss off Wolf.
 
I have an idea Jack. Set up your own Jaxurdealer forum and go away.

Ryan is not sad, not pathetic, doesn't watch too many horror movies and doesn't need mental health counseling.....you do. Ryan did something Moderators asked him to do, and what does Jax do, he resorts to name calling, bashing, and insulting. So what's sauce for the goose....... Jack, YOU are pathetic. Stop your rediculous harrassment and go play your "I'm not a dealer" song somewhere else.

If a Gold Member can vote, I'll vote a ban if for no other reason than Jax negative unecessary intrusion into one of my ads, and his bashing of someone I know only well enough to know he is a stand up guy.....Ryan Malpiede!
 
I'm not sure if Jack should be banned or not; that isn't my decision to make. But I do think he should at least be ignored out of existence. If his ads consistently drew no replies, surely he'd eventually go away, since attetion and affirmation seem to be so important to him, even affirmation he has to ask for.

I feel sorry for people whose first experience with a knife collector/dealer/whatever happens with Jack. They aren't going to get a good first impression.
 
Well, if he is not going to be banned as a dealer, name caller or whatever...how about this?

It has been stated by folks here who have first rate reputations, that Jax has harassed, cussed and even threatened bodily harm. Sure, tempers flare on the forum to a degree, but he gos over the line. When some un-suspecting person gives their phone number, they tend to regret it. When he calls and screams and cusses at them, and then in one instance posted on these forums, threatened bodily harm, that is where the powers that be should finally draw the line.

If a person is obviously able to plunk down large sums of cash at the drop of a hat, and who gos into frantic rages, then who is to say that he would not spend a tiny amount of money on travel to go find somebody he feels has wronged him 'for the last time'. This seems to really be getting out of hand.

People who even speak to Jax about a deal should not have to worry if he is going to imagine some insult to his honor. Whats worse is that even one person who pi$$ed Jax off has expressed worry about the safety of himself or his family.

Spark, no doubt you have seen this thread. Where do you draw the line? Its your forum, do as you see fit, lets just hope its the right thing. Banning has a nice ring to it.
 
If we ban someone let's make sure we do it for a clear cause. We sould not be banning people because they are unpopular. It is not a precedent I care to set. There may be plenty of good reasons for Jack to go. But private email messages should remain private, and his ability, or inability, to communicate adequately, or, his mental health, should not be a factor.

Perhaps Jack Alvarez is Jack Alvarez the dealer? Perhaps he has made offensive statements on this forum, or interfered with other people's ads? There may be good reasons for someone like Jaxurman to be leave, but, we should be very clear on them before we take action.
I admit that I don't like what I am hearing about Jack, but he is much too easy a target, and whatever we do should be something we are willing to stand by.

n2s
 
...Look, Jack is a whack, and he's rude, and he's pushy...he's also a very emotional guy too...but damn it, he's not malicious.

When I say that, I mean that I honestly don't think Jack realizes just how messed up his attitude is. I don't think he means anyone harm.

Personally, I think he can be a spaz, an oaf, and a boor...all at the same time. And sometimes, he even acts like a mentally defective moron...but his reality isn't our reality, he's cruising by on a different plane all together.

What would we gain from banning Jack? And what precedent would we set by enacting such a ban?

Honestly folks, I'm tired of defending Jack's childish actions, and I don't want to be his 'co-dependent', but what he needs is a good verbal asskicking, ridicule and embarassment possibly, and a stern warning from Spark to straighten up or get lost.

That being said, I think banishment is a little extreme at this particular time.

Look, there's a time when a good dog 'gone bad' needs to be shot, this just isn't the time...or is it?

My vote is no, but if he gets into the sheep again, well....

Mel

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Melvin and N2S, you both are entitled to your opinions, and you both make a reasonable argument to think twice about a ban.

Lets look at it this way though. If you ran your own forum, would you accept his behavior? I mean in w/c and even other sections of this forum tend to have times when folks get mad. We all are tempted to post in anger, and even insult and call names. However, on your hypothetical forum, would you tolerate anybody making physical threats?

I know, you can say that all the folks that have gotten a good cussing from Jax are just telling thier side. Well, considering the ones posting, thats good enough for me. Jax likes to send the message to people that implies "Hey, Im Jax and thats should be all you need to know". Well, using that same logic I can again say that the ones who are posting of thier troubles with Jax have my support because of who they are and thier record on the forums.

Now, assuming Jack Alverez (the dealer on the site that Ryan posted), and Jax are one in the same, then I dont get it. On the website he does NOT AT ALL come across as a raging lunatic. The writing is easy to read, and the article is well written and would lead one to believe that Jax is definately a likable guy who would be a pleasure to do business with.

Jax, are you that dealer? If so, then in your article, the attitude you put forth in it is right on. It is the writing of somebody who likes the hobby for what it is. Its way different from the self centered, egotistical and raving attitude you show here.
 
I'm kind of new here at the forums and I wish I could join in the crowd with the Jack bashing. I can't. I just did my second trade ever with Jack and it was smooth as glass. No complaints here. We talked on the phone about knives that he had in his personal collection and knives that he was willing to trade. Not once, did he come off as a dealer...maybe I'm just new. Banning someone seems to be pretty easy, because I don't see that he's done anything to be banned, again...maybe I'm just new.
 
What's the matter, Jack having trouble getting along again, and again, and again....

The definition of insanity is to continue to make the same mistake
and expect different results...
 
Just my 2 cents worth..

From what I remember, Jack Alvarez is an East Coast (New York/New Jersey?) legitimate high end knife dealer. When I started collecting 4-5 years ago he spent some quality phone time with me giving a total rookie guidance on buying custom knives. Never purchased a knife from him, but he was still never pushy. Ended up buying a D.R. Krait from Darrell, which I still have. Cool guy. No mention of the F-word... probably not our JAXURMAN.

Greg
 
Actually, from what I gathered from the article I would tend to think that the Jack Alvarez that wrote that article is the one and only Jaxurman. The things that give it away are his mentioning of collecting tactical knives including Mad Dogs and Terzuola knives. Jack has mentioned many times that these are the knives he collects although he no longer has any use for Mad Dog knives.

There is publishing software that you can get that will take a poorly constructed article and have it come out looking like the ones attributed to Jack. The attitude of the fella that wrote those articles sure doesn't seem to match with the attitude shown by Jack on this forum, but then again that could just be Jack's forum persona.

Now, even if the guy that wrote that article is our Jack, he could have retired from being a knife dealer since those articles were written a couple of years ago. If Jack is still a dealer I am very surprised that none of the members here have run into him at the knife shows they attend. It seems at one time he attended quite a few of them.

At this point I am still against banning Jack. In the emails that he has sent me he has never been anything other than a gentleman. Having said that, I do believe that Jack has gone way beyond what is acceptable behavior. He has no right to email or phone anyone and be abusive. This kind of behavior can not be tolerated and if he is banned I would certainly understand why.

Jack, my advice to you is, if you get the chance, shape up or you will be forced to ship out. Start treating everyone here with the respect that you would demand that they treat you. Get off your high horse and realize that everyone here is going to think a whole lot better of you if you just become one of the regular guys and gals that make BladeForums such a great place to hang.
 
Look, if anyone has any specific information as to whether or not JAXURMAN is a dealer, let me know post haste.

This isn't the first time that this has come up and until this is settled, it won't be the last time.

If you don't have anything to back up your claims, then pipe down. If you have specific evidence (invoices, proof that he bought a knife from you then proceeded to resell it for profit, etc) then step up to the plate.

In the meantime, let's leave the threats and kiddie talk at the playground, ok?

Kevin
 
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