jdavis882 sebenza cutting test

[eduard]

watch this ?!


WHATS GOIN ON ?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1oq7PzjJkY&feature=feedu

 

[Esav Benyamin]

WHATS GOIN ON ?

You tell me. A 12 minute video and no idea why I'm watching it, so I'm not watching it.

 

[eduard]

WHATS GOIN ON ?

You tell me. A 12 minute video and no idea why I'm watching it, so I'm not watching it.

LOL why so agressive the video shows the amazingly bad edge retention of the sebenza s35vn steel you should watch it or at least skip to the and .. very weird results...

 

[wolf5391]

Seems the steel is too soft, but I guess its better than chipping. I was really suprised as well when I saw the video. Still wont deter me from buying the knives though.

 

[wolf5391]

LOL why so agressive the video shows the amazingly bad edge retention of the sebenza s35vn steel you should watch it or at least skip to the and .. very weird results...

I wouldnt say its bad edge retention, Ive cut alot of stuff with my sebenza with out this happening. I personally like the edge retention of my s35vn. it seems that he might have gotten either a lemon or the heat treat wasnt correct. He talked to heather and she said the knife didnt seem in spec. (Dont quote me on that though). I thought i read it in the description box but i could be wrong.

 

[eduard]

I wouldnt say its bad edge retention, Ive cut alot of stuff with my sebenza with out this happening. I personally like the edge retention of my s35vn. it seems that he might have gotten either a lemon or the heat treat wasnt correct. He talked to heather and she said the knife didnt seem in spec. (Dont quote me on that though). I thought i read it in the description box but i could be wrong.

youre right but if you pay 400 for a pocket knife there should be everything "in spec" ....always !!!!

I got my first sebenza 3 weeks ago and it still has its factory edge but they really should run their steel a little harder.. i mean it was rope and not a piece of oak or a hard plastic ziptie

 

[ssblood]

If they ran their S30V as hard as Spyderco I wouldn't carry my Umnumzaan everyday. Way too many chipping problems for my usage. I can touch the dull Umnumzaan up a lot faster than I can work a chip out.

 

[arjung]

58 is still decently hard for a knife. This seems abnormal and it might just be a botched HT on that particular blade.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

LOL why so agressive the video shows the amazingly bad edge retention of the sebenza s35vn steel you should watch it or at least skip to the and .. very weird results...

Why so aggressive? Because this is a discussion forum, not a news aggregator, not the Drudge Report. We expect the original poster to let us know what the topic is, what the results are, what to watch for.

A lot of these videos are not professional presentations. This one started out with the reviewer mumbling and fumbling.

 

[wolf5391]

youre right but if you pay 400 for a pocket knife there should be everything "in spec" ....always !!!!

I got my first sebenza 3 weeks ago and it still has its factory edge but they really should run their steel a little harder.. i mean it was rope and not a piece of oak or a hard plastic ziptie

even some customs are lemons!!! you cant tell a heat treat is bad untill the knife is used. Thats why theres warranties. JMHO. (Nothing can ever be perfect).

 

[CrimsonTideShooter]

Why so aggressive? Because this is a discussion forum, not a news aggregator, not the Drudge Report. We expect the original poster to let us know what the topic is, what the results are, what to watch for.

A lot of these videos are not professional presentations. This one started out with the reviewer mumbling and fumbling.

This isn't a review. It's a cut test.

 

[CrimsonTideShooter]

Figured this would show up here eventually. I don't know what's going on with it either, but none of the other knives I've tested have done anything even similar to this.

 

[CrimsonTideShooter]

If they ran their S30V as hard as Spyderco I wouldn't carry my Umnumzaan everyday. Way too many chipping problems for my usage. I can touch the dull Umnumzaan up a lot faster than I can work a chip out.

I have heard that S30 had chipping problems, but I can tell you that 2 other S30V knives (Spyderco) have passed this test with flying colors with absolutely ZERO chipping, only a little edge rolling.

This knife had a complete failure, which not even the tenacious experienced.

 

[CrimsonTideShooter]

I wouldnt say its bad edge retention, Ive cut alot of stuff with my sebenza with out this happening. I personally like the edge retention of my s35vn. it seems that he might have gotten either a lemon or the heat treat wasnt correct. He talked to heather and she said the knife didnt seem in spec. (Dont quote me on that though). I thought i read it in the description box but i could be wrong.

Nah I haven't talked to anyone about this issue yet, that was about a previous issue. We will see what comes of this.

I didn't post this on purpose, because in a conversation I had with Chris he asked me not to post problems on the forums. I can't control what other people post though, haha.

 

[prime77]

John I found your results really interesting to say the least. I have watched all of your other cut tests to see how different steels and grinds compare. Have you considered testing one of your other Sebenzas in the same manner to see how it compares?

 

[snowreaper1]

Before drawing any conclusions I would first do a few more tests with different cutting
material. You can also use one if your other Sebenzas and do the same tests and see how
they compare with each other and with other knives. I think more data is needed before you
writing it off as a failure. And then you can always send the blade to someone to test the hardness.

 

[ZippoThisKnifeThat]

I would like to see a comparison video using another Sebenza.
I'm not convinced after one cut demo that CRK's s35vn is bunk.

I do suspect a possible heat treat issue considering an edge of 42* inclusive was warped.

My s35vn seb is holding up nicely.

As far as the video goes, the Seb did continue to cut the rope. Wasn't dull to the point it couldn't cut anymore.
Hope it gets sorted out!

 

[CrimsonTideShooter]

John I found your results really interesting to say the least. I have watched all of your other cut tests to see how different steels and grinds compare. Have you considered testing one of your other Sebenzas in the same manner to see how it compares?

Yes I am going to test my large micarta when I get some more rope.

Before drawing any conclusions I would first do a few more tests with different cutting
material. You can also use one if your other Sebenzas and do the same tests and see how
they compare with each other and with other knives. I think more data is needed before you
writing it off as a failure. And then you can always send the blade to someone to test the hardness.

The only reason I am writing this off as a failure is because many other knives have gone through the exact same test, with the exact same rope and not failed. And some of them had MUCH thinner edges then the Sebenza. I don't see how it could be considered anything other than a failure since I have tested 18 other knives, none of which have been damaged even close to that much. There is something off with this particular blade, I think we can all agree on that.

 

[CrimsonTideShooter]

I would like to see a comparison video using another Sebenza.
I'm not convinced after one cut demo that CRK's s35vn is bunk.

I do suspect a possible heat treat issue considering an edge of 42* inclusive was warped.

My s35vn seb is holding up nicely.

As far as the video goes, the Seb did continue to cut the rope. Wasn't dull to the point it couldn't cut anymore.
Hope it gets sorted out!

I don't think anyone is saying that CRK's S35VN is crap. The steel isn't to blame, it's the heat treat. I have many other knives in this steel that hold up just fine.

 

[rgoonis]

Love watching the videos john keep up the good work.