Jeep Wranglers

Ah the good old CJ. :D Now this will put a smile on your face.
 

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Looks like they need a little bit bigger lift for those tires. I wonder how they can turn with those things on!
 
beefangusbeef said:
I wouldn't say that exactly. I test drove an H3 they are probably more capable offroad stock than just about any wrangler out there. They have a super low gear ratio, good suspension, and a capable 4x4 system. That being said they are horribly underpowered, fuel inefficient, the worst part is they put in a small engine trying to be more fuel efficient not sure if 20mpg qualifies them for that or not. Try finding a manual, adventure model (larger tires, lockers, 2" more clearance). It is impossible. All you can find are auto luxury models decked out in chrome, rolling on dubs the size of garbage can lids. So yeah, probably the 4 door wrangler is a better choic.
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:thumbdn: Please! stock h3 more cabable offroad than a Wrangler? You are out of your mind. There is no more capable stock vehicle out there than the Rubicon. I'm willing to bet that a normal X would outwheel the Adventure model of the H3. IFS sucks.
 
There is no more capable stock vehicle out there than the Rubicon
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Yeah, sure and if you believe that I've got another one that chrysler daimler would like you to hear. The rubicon is pretty good offroad, but probably not the best stock and certainly a ripoff for what it is. Just because it has a trail rated symbol doesn't mean it means anything. Jeep off-road capabilities are way over-hyped. They're good as a base to build a true off-road vehicle off of, but the current models aren't even as good as the pre TJ wranglers. Besides you could buy a bare bones 4 cyl 4x4 and spend 10,000 on axles, air lockers, heavy duty suspension, on board air compressor, extra tires, bash plates, a new bumper, winch and it'd still cost less than a new rubicon. You're a lot better off adding the stuff aftermarket instead of doing it at the dealership.
 
beefangusbeef said:
You're a lot better off adding the stuff aftermarket instead of doing it at the dealership.
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NOw that there sounds like fun! :D

beefangusbeef said:
Looks like they need a little bit bigger lift for those tires. I wonder how they can turn with those things on!
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Yeah the pic does look kinda strange.... Must be the angle, cause its got plenty room to turn. Though now that I think about it a little more lift would be fun.... :D
 
Gee, I guess all those RR & LR toolign around Africa for the last 70 years or so are useless?

Have you ever seen a RR off road demo?
 
Those are nothing like the range rovers of today. That is like saying the new FJ Cruiser is awesome off-road because the old FJ40's were. Most of those safari vehicles don't see really harsh off-road conditions.
 
beefangusbeef said:
Yeah, sure and if you believe that I've got another one that chrysler daimler would like you to hear. The rubicon is pretty good offroad, but probably not the best stock and certainly a ripoff for what it is. Just because it has a trail rated symbol doesn't mean it means anything. Jeep off-road capabilities are way over-hyped. They're good as a base to build a true off-road vehicle off of, but the current models aren't even as good as the pre TJ wranglers. Besides you could buy a bare bones 4 cyl 4x4 and spend 10,000 on axles, air lockers, heavy duty suspension, on board air compressor, extra tires, bash plates, a new bumper, winch and it'd still cost less than a new rubicon. You're a lot better off adding the stuff aftermarket instead of doing it at the dealership.
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I agree, except for the 4cyl part. Buying an older YJ or CJ with the I6 in it is the best idea if you want to build an offroader. Although the 4cyl is a great engine, especially if you don't plan on wheeling much, you will need the power from the 6 if you want to start moving bigger tires. I myself am not a big fan of the Rubicon for the reasons that you stated (over priced, can build a capable offroader for cheaper, etc) but you can not argue that it is the most capable stock vehicle out there.
 
The RR was made to be a off roader with a bit of luxury 30 years ago (then they got a little carried away and now have what they call the RR today)

Nothing like an LR Lightweight for me. The body shape excites me
 
Oh yeah well if you wanna see a real off-road vehicle..... I can't even believe this is the same vehicle as my old rocky. I'm not quite sure he's still getting 35mpg, well putting a smallblock in something with a 1.6l engine will do that :D I don't care for the paint job though

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Inferno What? Nobody has posted a pic of a decked-out Suzuki Samurai yet?
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Umm, is this sarcasm or did you not see the post before yours?:confused:

I have a friend with a 98 TJ that has about $18,000 worth of mods into it (yes he has too much money). This is on top of the $14,000 that he paid for it. Now many of his mods are cosmetic such as custom seats and rhino lined interior etc. but I have to laugh everytime he complains about a guy that he wheels with who has a built up Samurai with a total of $6,000 invested (purchase price and mods) who has a more capable ride and out wheels him everytime they go out.

Jamie

edit: OK after looking at it again is that a Samurai or not? I thought it was but now I'm not sure.
 
I'm pretty sure that's a Daihatsu Rocky.

As for me, I'm sticking to my Blazer. She doesn't get much off-road use here though... -_-
 
No it's a rocky. Think of a sammi with a bigger engine and nicer ride, luxury by no means but they can be bought for around 2000 or so depending on the condition and run forever. Parts such as lockers, locking hubs, suspension are hard to come by in the US though so sammis are much easier to mod. I've found good running sammi for around 1k. Always wanted to get rocky road outfitters vw diesel kit and put in one of those things.
 
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