Jerry, 2 Questions

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Lycosa

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Hi Jerry!
Will I ever get that Busse chisel grind knife that you put aside for me?
Will BCK ever do a limited run of chisel ground knives?
Please. :)
 
=) I don't think there is enough of a demand for it. I guess you could call the shop and see if they will custom make you one, but at $100 per inch, how big do you want it to be? =) Besides if Jerry made that next, do you know how many MUK and Folder fans would be mad at you, LOL.
 
Ummmm... yer not Jerry.
Thanks Dan. ;)
Will YOU buy me a custom one? :D
BTW, There IS a Busse CG knife locked in some vault with my name on it.
Correct, Jerry?
 
I think he's waiting for the Muk release to get it to you. . . oh wait. After Muk AND Folder. You should have it about quarter-past-never. ;)
 
In my experiences, a lot of makers will straight up refuse to do certain grinds, they do not think it is good and do not want them on their knives. This may be the case with chisel grind and that may be the reason why we have not ever seen that grind on a Busse.
Have you ever looked at and held a Busse with a ASYM edge? I think that is very close to the chisel grind. These can be found on some of the older Busse and one certain select few B11. Good luck with your search.
Dan
 
Lycosa said:
Ummmm... yer not Jerry.
Thanks Dan. ;)
Will YOU buy me a custom one? :D
BTW, There IS a Busse CG knife locked in some vault with my name on it.
Correct, Jerry?
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My father in law is a Jerry, will that work? :D
 
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Some other Jerry heard your call....
 
If I recall correctly at the 2003 blade there was a chisel ground sfno. It had a weirdly harsh concrete like powder coat on it, I believe in either urban gray or urban shadow/camo. one side was finished and the otherside seemed to have been done quickly/not finished in order to get it done for the show.
 
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are we sure about the grind on that SFNO? I had a knife before and I thought it was chisel ground but it turned out to be asym. It barely had an edge on one side... I can't really tell from those pictures but I think I have seen that SFNO before but never noticed the edge...
 
Dan's right man, there obviously is not a huge demand or Jerry doesn't prefer it-so you gotta think you wouldn't approve either-no. You have other CG knives Lycosa? What's the deal with the chisel ground though- truth be told I really no nothing about it. Is it just like the Asymmetrical ground? Anyone care to elaborate. Thanks guys.
Craig
 
Liu Kang said:
are we sure about the grind on that SFNO? I had a knife before and I thought it was chisel ground but it turned out to be asym. It barely had an edge on one side... I can't really tell from those pictures but I think I have seen that SFNO before but never noticed the edge...
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The asymmetrical edge by busse is a cutting edge bevel, not primary grind. This knife did not have a primary grind present on the unfinished side. The unfinished side was completely flat from the pommel to the tip, if you laid the knife on a table without the scales it would have been flush across the entire surface of the unfinished side.

It's been a long time since I held that particular knife so I can't comment on the exact particulars of the cutting edge bevels. The picture of the unfinished side isn't that great, and it does kind of appear that there is a 3/8" tall primary grind. I don't recall if that is the case, but I do remember everything above it was totally flat and without a grind. It was a really weird knife to hold.
 
I don't think lycosa is talking about the asymmetrical edge bevel that busse normally produces, which is only at the cutting edge itself. The sfno above and the thin NICK's are the only knives I know of that have come from busse with with a complete chisel configuration. By chisel I mean literally like a chisel, where one side is completely flat and the other has a primary grind.

On the one hand it will have all of the benefits of a chisel - you only have to grind one side, it cuts excellently in one direction, and it's edge can be made thinner than that of a v-edge (18 degree's per side = 36 degree's on a V edge). I don't know why Lycosa prefers them, I find them to be an interesting alternative but not something I'd personally seek out.

In this image you can see the difference between a complete chisel grind vs. a edge-only chisel grind. Busse's assymetrical is edge-only and is not a true chisel.

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This is Ian Allomes's thin NICK which shows the complete chisel geometry (completely flat on one side):

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If you wanted to get a custom chisel ground knife, you might also consider having garth cut down a thin NICK, although at this point the cost of those are pretty prohibitive. For the 600-800$ it will cost you you could likely get a full custom - but you would be at the mercy of the full 3-6 year wait time.
 
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