Jetbeam Raptor RRT-0 XML

DrOpPoInT1110

DrOpPoInT1110

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Just ordered one of these little monsters and I'm looking forward to try it out. Has anybody here had or currently own one? I have read that it could possibly be unsafe since it (supposedly) pulls almost 3 AMPS on a RCR123!?:eek: I don't think it will be an issue but if anyone could report on their use with it, that would be great. Maybe some of you real flashaholics can tell be based on the specs? Anyway, I ordered the light and 2 AW brand RCR123's (3.7V) and I will post here about it when it arrives just so its available for anyone interested in it. Seems to be an awesome little light if it performs as advertised. Thanks in advance for any info guys. Take care.
Here is a link to Jetbeam's page on this light: http://www.jet-beam.com/links/pro/rrt0xml.aspx
 
formersatx said:
People smarter than me have recommended using the IMR cell in it.
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From what I understand, IMR cells have less capacity but deliver a higher current. I chose to get ICR cells though because they are protected cells. I figure having protected cells and less amperage would be better for this light. I could be wrong though so I may still try IMR's. Scott, I'll be sure to post some pictures and info when it arrives.
 
Well, I got the light in today along with another package containing the batteries/charger from another website. BUT, they actually sent 2 AW brand IMR cells instead of the ICR ones I ordered. Since they're the same price, I'll just keep these since they are the recommended type to use from reading around on some forums (flashaholics know a lot more than I do anyway).
Now, first impressions of the light: HO-LY CRAP!!!!
This is an unbelievable light! Luckily, the batteries came pre-charged and this thing is BRIGHT!! I can't believe that such a small light can put out such an intense beam. The ring to adjust the brightness is very smooth and has the perfect amount of resistance IMO. It even has a small "detent" position for lock-out. Once you turn it slightly to the right it starts off at a very low brightness and then just ramps up from there. In addition, the build quality is great! All the threads are very smooth and the overall fit and finish is perfect. Before this, the only similar lights I have owned were Fenix and Lumens Factory and this beats both easily. I also really like the dark gun-metal gray finish Jet Beam uses. Looks very good against the lighter-colored raw steel bezel and aluminum ring. One thing I noticed about this particular one though is that it has a smooth reflector instead of a textured one like those shown in the pictures. I'm not sure if this is a change they made during production or what the deal is. Normally, I do prefer a textured reflector however, on this light, I heard that is is a bit "floody" so having the smooth reflector will provide a bit more throw. So far, I am VERY happy with the beam it puts out and the light in general is excellent. I will post some pictures when I get the chance and will post with any new findings.
 
thanks for the follow-up post on this -- i was curious about the output and performance as well.


do you really believe the output is at 550lumens? i know there is frequently a large amount of discrepancy involved in lumens ratings, particularly this exists when manufacturers measure *at* the LED versus like at a usable range.

i currently carry a sunwayman M10R on my keyring, but would consider upgrading if the light is noticeably brighter (SWM M10R rated at 210 lumens).
 
its 550 ansi otf i believe for the rrt-0 and can only be achieved when using a rcr123/16340 or 14500 w/ AA extension. with a primary cr123 its only 225lumens max and 120+- lumens on a single AA w/ extension. great light, one of my favs. i use aw cells exclusively too btw :)

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beamshots on some of my lights:
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Midget said:
thanks for the follow-up post on this -- i was curious about the output and performance as well.


do you really believe the output is at 550lumens? i know there is frequently a large amount of discrepancy involved in lumens ratings, particularly this exists when manufacturers measure *at* the LED versus like at a usable range.

i currently carry a sunwayman M10R on my keyring, but would consider upgrading if the light is noticeably brighter (SWM M10R rated at 210 lumens).
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I believe it is ansi otf ratings as Jaiofspam said. It definitely does seem up there though. Due to the floody character of the beam, it doesn't "feel" like 550 otf lumens but it just illuminates a huge area for a light this size. It still does have a decent hotspot though so it still throws well. I am going to charge up my other RCR123 when I get back in and test the light with the freshly charged battery tonight. Thus far though, it seems VERY good as far as output goes. One thing I have noticed so far is that on full output, it gets hot very quickly.

Jaiofspam said:
its 550 ansi otf i believe for the rrt-0 and can only be achieved when using a rcr123/16340 or 14500 w/ AA extension. with a primary cr123 its only 225lumens max and 120+- lumens on a single AA w/ extension. great light, one of my favs. i use aw cells exclusively too btw :)

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I am actually glad they sent me the IMR cells instead haha. It seems those are the way to go for this light. I heard great things about AW cells so I figured I'd give them a try. Thanks for posting those videos!
 
Jaiofspam- Where did you get that strike bezel from for your RRT-0? It looks awesome. Also, how did you remove the stock retaining ring?
 
i got the bezel from bugoutgearusa.com, i used my leatherman at the time since i was at work. you can use a set of snap ring pliers to remove the stock bezel or the bottom of your boot if you have a bezel thats not on extremely tight.

DrOpPoInT1110 said:
Jaiofspam- Where did you get that strike bezel from for your RRT-0? It looks awesome. Also, how did you remove the stock retaining ring?
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Jaiofspam said:
i got the bezel from bugoutgearusa.com, i used my leatherman at the time since i was at work. you can use a set of snap ring pliers to remove the stock bezel or the bottom of your boot if you have a bezel thats not on extremely tight.
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Thanks. Is the stock bezel threaded or just press-fit in? Don't want to start messing with it the wrong way.
camoninja said:
Awesome light. I've had/have a few JC's. Strictly AW cells here to.
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Yeah, seems like AW cells are the go-to when it comes to batteries for high-output lights. Is there any reason particular reason people like them so much?
 
DrOpPoInT1110 said:
Thanks. Is the stock bezel threaded or just press-fit in? Don't want to start messing with it the wrong way.
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Jetbeam bezels are threaded. I second the shoe (or boot) method. Just take a shoe, press the bezel into the rubber sole, and turn counter-clockwise. I don't believe Jetbeam uses any glue or blue loctite so it shouldn't require too much force.
 
moshow9 said:
Jetbeam bezels are threaded. I second the shoe (or boot) method. Just take a shoe, press the bezel into the rubber sole, and turn counter-clockwise. I don't believe Jetbeam uses any glue or blue loctite so it shouldn't require too much force.
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Cool, i'll try that. Thanks. Definitely think that strike bezel will be the first upgrade.
 
Ok, as promised, here are some pictures:
RRT-0XML1.jpg

Everything that you get in the box:
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Sections disassembled (extender piece in center is only for use with AA cells):
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Assembled light set-up for use with CR123's:
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Size comparison:
Top to bottom- Fenix TA 20, Maglite Mini with Nite Ize LED and IQ Switch, Lumens Factory Seraph SP-6, Jet-Beam RRT-0 XML, Fenix E11
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Quick brightness comparison:
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In case you don't know this already, don't run the IMR cell all the way down. You won't be able to charge it up again. The regular black label AW's have the protection circuit that will prevent it but I wouldn't run them down either.

By the way, the IMR cell is supposed to be safer than the RCR but you're right, the capacity is less.
 
yep, i would top off regularly depending on use. be sure to have a good digital multimeter handy. i dont let my batteries drop below 3.7v and even keep a charger at work. if the wife permits, i would keep them in the fridge as well :D
 
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