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knightsteel

knightsteel

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Angel Sword Forge has several permanent positions open at this time.

1) Internet sales position; Position includes answering internet inquiries, reveiw and photograghy of avaialble items. Position requires sales experience and some knowledge of swords.

2) Research assistant; Tracking and organization of metallurgical research continuing through patenting and sales.

3) Grinder; Experienced steel grinder needed, knifemaking experience very helpful.

4) Knifemaker, folder specialist; Experienced only

5) Girl Friday; General office work, packing boxes, customer relations

6) Heat Treater; solid metallurgical understanding, interested in assisting in the development of new technologies.

7) Shop Foreman; Swordmaking experience, knowledgable of all aspects, from zero to fine detailing

8) General shop help; experience helpful

Contact me at : angelsword@earthlink.net http://www.lvcks.com/
 
You might want to post this in shoptalk. If you would move your operation to say Montana or Idaho . I'd be there in a skinny minute :)
 
Oh Yeah,

Mr. Watson, don't you think that by proclaiming yourself a "Master" that you have no need of "research" or "education", because you know it all? Just wondering, because you are posting for a research assistant.

Best Regards,

Steven Garsson
 
I would think that a "Master" who stops trying to learn would quickly loose such standing. Technology progresses and if you don't stay on top of it you're skills can quickly become outdated.


Boy, wish I lived in Texas. I would love to get a job in the blade industry and would probably be a good fit in the internet sales positions since I have many years of sales experience and a background in photography. Damn geography! :)
 
slide13 said:
I would think that a "Master" who stops trying to learn would quickly loose such standing. Technology progresses and if you don't stay on top of it you're skills can quickly become outdated.


Boy, wish I lived in Texas. I would love to get a job in the blade industry and would probably be a good fit in the internet sales positions since I have many years of sales experience and a background in photography. Damn geography! :)
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I'm not happy staying on top of new technology; I like to be at the leading edge.

Hopefully some of these positions will be tempting enough for some people to consider relocation.
 
To be called a Master Swordsmith does one have to pass certain tests? Is it an officially recognized designation?

Sorry for hijacking the thread, but since this was brought up I thought I would like to learn more.
 
In person, at Blade last year. It was adequate work at VERY high prices. I go back to 1999 on the SwordForums where a whole big pile of stuff came up, and I am not going to drag through it here, but it was valid, and never really resolved.

Daniel chooses to call himself a Master Swordsmith. He passed no tests from a group like the ABS or ABANA, but does not feel he has to, based upon his teachings, and personal feelings. To his credit, he does put some of this information into his website.

To his discredit, he has never, to my knowledge, had anything technical published a la the Scientific American piece written by Dr. Verhoven/Al Pendray, and the term TechnoWootz rankles me a little.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Kohai999
get over it.
Controversial is part of the allure and is downright fun sometimes.

People buy his work and are quite pleased. from what I hear.

Not too many Japanese swordsmiths were published. Not many ABS masters are published eithe


It just sounds to me like ya got a rock in your gizzard. The man just posted job opportunitys and you jumped him. I don't understand that.
 
Hush Mark....I'm enjoying it (I didn't start it for a change) :D

I go back to 1999 on the SwordForums where a whole big pile of stuff came up, and I am not going to drag through it here, but it was valid, and never really resolved.

It must be true if it was on SF :rolleyes: :footinmou

Actually Steve, you could take it to email !
 
Sweany said:
the proof is in the pudding. Have you seen Angelswords work??
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Yes I have and I was very impressed. I was just wondering if, like the ABS, there is an organization that teaches and tests swordmakers.
 
Yep this is shop talk not the Enquirer magazine forum for sword talk. As long as the tone remains in control, we can tolerate this thread. Other wise it will be closed down and sent to virtual hell.

Originally Posted by slide13

I would think that a "Master" who stops trying to learn would quickly loose such standing. Technology progresses and if you don't stay on top of it you're skills can quickly become outdated

Slide

You make a very good point.

Some organizations that are related to knives should think like you do.

Progress stops for no one.
The ABS and NCKG are two of the best at keeping there makers in touch with new ideas.
 
Darrel Ralph said:
Yep this is shop talk not the Enquirer magazine forum for sword talk. As long as the tone remains in control, we can tolerate this thread. Other wise it will be closed down and sent to virtual hell.

Originally Posted by slide13

I would think that a "Master" who stops trying to learn would quickly loose such standing. Technology progresses and if you don't stay on top of it you're skills can quickly become outdated

Slide

You make a very good point.

Some organizations that are related to knives should think like you do.

Progress stops for no one.
The ABS and NCKG are two of the best at keeping there makers in touch with new ideas.
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Thanks, Darrel. I for one have zero tolerance for disrespect of any Shop Talk members, and I don't like that kind of thing going on in here regardless of whom it is subjected upon.
 
There are plenty of forums out there for chest beating and beating down each other! Most of the time the people involved dont know the whole story or the REAL history about the topic.

They just heard in like cattle and speak there mind before knowing the real facts. Its sometimes the buddy system not the truth that prevails at first. Then a while later the real facts prevail and some people look like morons and liars.
YES it is exciting to beat on someone for a while, but in the end it causes more and more of these type of blind, uneducated attacks to surface and continue in the forums as the norm.
We dont need that here.
Happy holidays.

 
Kohai,
If I may. "It was adequate work at VERY high prices." The influx of new makers coupled with E-bay has created a market where I've been seeing some great "custom knives" continually decrease in price to the point where one could make more per hour working at a fast food restaurant. IMHO, there's something wrong when that happens. Many (not all) makers I know tend to be bashful about charging fair prices for beautiful custom knives.

I may or may not agree with everything about their business, but I happen to think Angel does the bladesmithing community service by maintaining the principle that good, beautiful custom blades SHOULD be expensive (in some cases very, very expensive). This principle will result in better paying bladesmithing jobs and draw talent into the field of bladesmithing that may have not considered it otherwise.

Tim

P.S. Edited to make clear the connection between pricing and better paying jobs. That pass muster Mark? ;)
 
Have you ever taken a job because you needed one, or thought that is was the employment answer to your dreams, and then realized it was a mistake to take that job? I have, twice, and I wished that someone would have tried to stop me.

Daniel/Angel Forge is using the BF's to place a help-wanted ad. Fine, no problem.

I posted some "alarms" that I felt would benefit a prospective job applicant. As long as you really look at Angel Forge's websites with an objective eye, and still want the job, you deserve it, and I hope that all your employment wishes are realized. Just as on the Blade Forums, with Sword Forums it is all about who was participating in the discussions, what the post was about, and how it was resolved.

If we have a discussion on BF's about something, and Barney, Fred and Wilma are the main conversationalists and they have a combined 1 month experience about the subject at hand, it is somewhat suspect, and may be clear as mud.
If the subject is on say Blade Forging, and the main conversationalists happen to be say, Jerry Fisk, Don Fogg and Kevin Cashen....well it may not be Gospel, but pretty damn close, as far as what we know.

New makers come and go. There have been peaks and valleys in pricing and always will be. There are standards of pricing, if it matters to you, where things "should" be, depending on what you are interested in. Makers who drive to quality up should be rewarded for the effort, financially, and in other ways. I will admit that I know very little about European Swords, but I have gone to the New England Bladesmith's gathering at Ashokan to learn more, and I will be there again in 2005.

I know a fair amount about katana/Japanese styled swords. I know hype and I know performance. I know that the proof is in the cutting. I know that I can afford to cut, and have cut with some swords from most of the better known swordmakers out there (Howard Clark, Don Fogg, Michael Bell, Francis Boyd, Bailey Bradshaw.....) I don't think that I could afford to cut with one of Angel Swords' Living Steel katana at over $10,000, no one that I know has one to let me borrow.

As far as bashing/chest beating. I am doing neither. I am presenting an opinion based upon experience. It is not conjecture. If AngelSword had posted his job listing in Shop Talk originally, instead of the Custom Knife Forum, I never would have seen it, and would not have posted anything, but that is too late, now. I know the people involved in the above mentioned SF discussion, and as I said, I handled the products on the table at Blade last year. I stick by my original statement, adequate, but VERY expensive. If anybody has a problem with that, you can e-mail me offline, so this does not turn into a public slugfest @ dethrdr@hotmail.com.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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