Journey Towards A Great Knife

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I've been lurking quite a while, reading and learning from the vast experience on these forums, and figured it's about time I gave some input of my own.

I'm on my second, sub-$100 folder and noticing more and more the MANY good options in this price range. My first was a CRKT M21-02 G10, which I still very much like. The blade shape is almost exactly what I want in a medium use knife, fairly secure for a liner lock, and I absolutely love the straight profile of the knife when opened. The gimping on the back of the blade and flipper is sufficient, especially on the flipper when blade is deployed (makes it very hard to cut yourself when closing). The milled-out handle provides great grip also. Another reason I was keen on this knife is quickly becoming one of my most despised features. I bet most can already guess as this was the #1 complaint I read about this knife when doing research before buying. AutoLAWKS. Man, that feature is so lackluster. Certainly doesn't make the knife a "virtual fixed blade" as is advertised and is such a pain when closing the blade. And after watching some hard use testing of the knife I can see how little the AutoLAWKS actually helps (see link below). I suppose if I was worried about accidentally disengaging the liner lock while using the knife it would be a handy feature. But with the liner being nearly flush with the scales, I don't see how this would ever be a worry.

My second knife purchase, the Kershaw Ampitude 3.25, is already my more preferred knife to carry (and play with :P). When I first received the CRKT M21 I did my usual once-over, adjusted the tension on the pivot, practiced the deployment and basically left it in the pocket. I didn't find much joy in using the knife, mainly because of the aforementioned feature. But the Kershaw, I've had it almost a couple weeks now and still can't help but take it out and play with it. :jerkit: When looking into my next purchase after the CRKT, I knew I wanted another straight profile looking knife but wanted a frame lock this time. It also had to be slim as to be more pocket-friendly and a bit less tactical looking (I work in an office environment). The thin blade and lack of information/reviews on the knife did have me wondering though. Having the knife in hand now, I am very happy given the quality for the price. Only issue I find is that the pivot screw slowly loosens after repeatedly opening/closing, but can be easily tightened again using my finger nail to turn the grooved plate just under the screw. All in all, it's a great step along my knife journey.

I already know another step along my journey is going to be a Sebenza or Inkosi, but I'm not quite ready to spend upwards of $100 on a single knife yet. Nobody has to try and convince me though. I can already tell it is well worth the cost. But I want to sample a few more average-priced knives before committing more funds to my rekindled hobby (growing obsession). One thing I'm certainly starting to realize is why having a large collection of blades brings so many of you such joy. There's no such thing as the "perfect" knife, even for you own preference or specific usage. I've went from wondering "why do all these people have so many knives?" to "why do I have so few knives?"

Part of my hard-use research:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q3Z9koNohHDIUogSVRaIGl-o3mebrbjwSDNcR0h5LlU



P.S. BilboBaggins, loved your Aliens reference in your comment on testing knives on a recently locked thread. One of my all-time favorite movies. :)
 
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You sound like me, except I did not do the copious research you did.

It is kind of a quest to find the right knife. Soon you will be looking for the right knife for different uses. Your next step would be to look for that $100-$150 knife. Start looking at Benchmade and Spyderco. They have some great choices.

Good luck and have fun
 
It is a fun journey. I used to have a $100 limit. Now not so much. Up to $200. Think that will hold me for awhile.

I really enjoy the research also as I have little chance for hands on
 
Aliens is awesome. Agree that Benchmade or Spyderco is a good next stop. I actually wish I had started at the lower end. My first foray back into knives started with a Manix2...under a $100, but just barely. My first Chris Reeve knife is currently inbound and I find myself trying to justify why I really "need" a Shiro or a rockstead. Inevitable, I suppose. There is always the siren's song of that next perfect knife just on the horizon.
 
Thanks onojoe!

I'd probably have a Spyderco Para-Military 2 already if it wasn't for that giant hole making the overall package so tall. Great knives, but I've tried a few and was not happy with them overall. The only one I'm considering is the Positron (small spydie hole), but seems a bit pricey for what it is (S30V blade, liner lock). Definitely have a few Benchmade knives on my wish list though. Currently eyeing the H&K 14716BK. Straight profile, 3" or under blade length, deep carry pocket clip, and lock seems good. I've not had any experience with the AXIS lock yet, but read a lot of good things about it. Next 3 knives I'm ordering are the Ka-Bar Dozier, Opinel No. 7, and Cold Steel SRK. The Ka-Bar and Cold Steel are going in the camping pack for later this year and the Opinel is just something to try out (so many talk about them I just had to get one). Also got a Cold Steel G.I. Tanto on the way which I plan to try out some modifications on. For the price and durability, it seems like a great knife to practice sharpening with different blade profiles and tough enough I can always use it to split some wood with.
 
I used to be a custom buyer but the longer I explore this lifestyle the more I believe that past $300 I am just paying for prestige. My latest favorite brand is Fantoni, and they do an amazing job for under 3 bills. I did purchase a Gavin Hawk MUDD Midtech recently and though I still believe $300 gets you everything you need, the MUDD is in a different class and I am happy with my little slip back toward higher end knives.

We all find our own way.
 
I should take that back about only considering the Positron from Spyderco. I do keep coming back to the Endura as a possible carry knife. It's like an elongated Delica, which makes the hole seem not as obtrusive.
 
Oh that Gavin Hawk MUDD does look pretty nice. Added to my list for further research. :P
 
I hear that, GB940Rookie. Not like I can just pop into a nearby knife shop and check out most of the knives I'd consider buying. And I'm definitely not spending any significant money on something without looking at more than a couple YouTube reviews. I consider the looks to be a big point, but I plan to use these things. Not just admire them and cut some paper and cardboard. :P

I understand what you mean about inevitable, BilboBaggins. I've read a bunch of people talking about how they went for CRK knives because they didn't want to spend the extra money on Shiro or Rockstead. Certainly in a whole other price range. I'm quite happy with having the Sebenza being the "expensive" knife I'll work my way towards later on. :P
 
I've got two knives over $200 now and many under the $100 mark.
You get into better blade metals, higher quality parts bearings and such.
You do notice the difference in materials and feel. They feel more solid.
 
I started below $50 with many, many folders in a casual manner, by having a Utilitac II gifted to me. Mainly SAKs and the classic budget blades until then. It all boomed up from there.
In the first year I ended up buying a $60 knife, a Spyderco.
Half a year later I was six Spydercos richer and all those were $70-90
At the end of my second year I spent $105 on a Cold Steel.
I tried other more expensive offerings from CS and Spyderco, and beat the $150 limit in three months.
And at the end of my third year I blew the $200 limit, and the $300 just two months later.

I have really enjoyed this, and wonder the path it will follow, but I believe I've settled on this limit for days to come.
Yes, there's a noticeable difference at each jump, in different aspects.
I hope you enjoy as much as I did (and do), and good luck in your discoveries! :thumbup:
 
Thanks for the input and suggestions guys!

I know I'm probably being a bit less frugal working my way through a lower price range first, but I don't want to immediately jump into some expensive knives that I'll be hesitant to actually use when needed. That said, I have been looking at getting at least one solid knife (titanium scales, harder blade steel) that I can put through heavier usage that isn't going to cost nearly as much as a Sebenza. And Kizer has been looking like it will fit very nicely. Specifically the 3304B and 3404A3. Zero Tolerance has also caught my eye since I saw the 550 being put through some hard use testing and shrugging it off like it was nothing. Hard to find one of those though, so I've been thinking of getting a 450 instead.

Others here have already said this, but shopping around and researching future purchases really is part of the fun. :)

P.S. ThePeacent, seeing you post time and time again with pics of you Cold Steel Voyager has me convinced that I definitely want to get one of those bad boys. Nice knife!
 
I know I'm probably being a bit less frugal working my way through a lower price range first, but I don't want to immediately jump into some expensive knives that I'll be hesitant to actually use when needed.
I also think by working through lots of cheaper knives you also develop a better idea of what you like and what is important to you. Then when you spend money on more expensive knives your spending your money on something you can appreciate more.
 
Just an after thought but you have mentioned A Sebenza several times so keep in mind that if you decide to jump in and try one they hold their value well and you can always sell it and get most if not all of your money back.
 
I also think by working through lots of cheaper knives you also develop a better idea of what you like and what is important to you. Then when you spend money on more expensive knives your spending your money on something you can appreciate more.

Exactly.

Just an after thought but you have mentioned A Sebenza several times so keep in mind that if you decide to jump in and try one they hold their value well and you can always sell it and get most if not all of your money back.

The posts on the Chris Reeves Knives for sale thread seems to back that up. Been perusing that thread here and there hoping to spot a great deal. Most posts I see with knives I'd love to buy end with the knife being sold only a few hours later. :P
 
You may like the Boker Urban Trapper.

Titanium framelock with bearing pivot and VG-10 steel.

Office friendly. There are options with different scale materials, or you can just get the titanium.

I hear you on the AutoLAWKS thing... I simply hated it.

Have fun on your journey. It's a worthwhile pursuit in my book.
 
Thanks threefeathers! RAT 1 and RAT 2 are great knives for the price. Definitely a couple I've considered for more moderate usage.

Here's one I've had for many years. Used it extensively when I used to do network installations. Very handy for quick holes in drywall and cutting network cable.

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Love that blade style for utility tasks. I've been back and forth on getting a Spyderco Harpy ever since getting back into knives.
 
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