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Gossman Knives

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I'm thinking real hard about using some CPM 3V steel. Not sure yet, I may not even go with it. If I did, what type of knives would interest people in this steel?
Scott
 
I live in Florida an things get stained quick! I would love to see any of your knives, for sure the Nessmuk, offered in CPM 3V or BG-42/S30V!
 
I already work with 154CM as my only stainless.
Scott
 
3v tusker would rock! I am more of a tool steel guy, but that would be one I would like to see.
 
I'd go with 3V for the smaller blades such as skinners etc where edge holding is most important. I still don't trust 3V on bigger knifes which will be required to do heavy chopping.....too many reports of them chipping !!!
 
pitdog said:
I'd go with 3V for the smaller blades such as skinners etc where edge holding is most important. I still don't trust 3V on bigger knifes which will be required to do heavy chopping.....too many reports of them chipping !!!
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Curious which knives you've heard chipping? Ferhman seems to have good luck with their knives.
IMO, if the geometry is not too thin and convexed, there shouldn't be a problem.
Scott
 
Gossman Knives said:
Curious which knives you've heard chipping? Ferhman seems to have good luck with their knives.
IMO, if the geometry is not too thin and convexed, there shouldn't be a problem.
Scott
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This report by Cliff Stamp on one of the Fehrmans is one example that springs to mind......


The Extreme Judgement was initially sharp but the edge roughly finished which lead to poor edge retention and durability in wood working due to fractures. The edge chipping continued after a light sharpening and was readily evident with just light impacts on concrete. The edge also ripplied on harder batoning. The grip was above average in some respects but had ergonomic issues in others. The sheath also had problems in wearing the coating and abrading the edge.

In regards to the edge denting, other knives such as the Heafner bowie in D2 have seen far greater edge strength in the same work splitting large knotty rounds. The Extreme Judgement was returned with either a request for a refund or replacement if this behavior was not to be expected, especially in regards to edge chipping. A refund was given on a credit card with no communication from the maker.


It could well have been a poor heat treat on that example.
Make a prototype Scott and I will be more than happy to field test it for you and will include lots of nice scenic pics for the forum.....how's that sound !!!;)
 
Dudes, just FYI, quoting Cliff Stamp here ain't gonna convince anyone...especially Scott! And most especially me!!! :D
 
3V works very very well in larger kives when heat treated properly. Plenty of custom makers have used this steel in choppers that were of thinner stock with good results. Read more than Cliff and ask other custom makers what they think of it. I have a few blades in thinner stock and one is quite large. It does just fine.
 
Brian Jones said:
Dudes, just FYI, quoting Cliff Stamp here ain't gonna convince anyone...especially Scott! And most especially me!!! :D
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This is true. I know alot of people with Fehrman knives. One person I have the highest respect for that swears by Fehrman is Ron Hood. Ron is the real deal when it comes to knife use. I also look at Crucible's data. If followed, the heat treat will not be an issue. Chipping can result in a very thin secondary V bevel. That's why convex is much stronger.
Scott
 
Gossman Knives said:
This is true. I know alot of people with Fehrman knives. One person I have the highest respect for that swears by Fehrman is Ron Hood. Ron is the real deal when it comes to knife use. I also look at Crucible's data. If followed, the heat treat will not be an issue. Chipping can result in a very thin secondary V bevel. That's why convex is much stronger.
Scott
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Ron Hood also swears by TOPS knives but they are not popular on these forums !

Ps For the record I am not one who slams TOPS knives as I love my little WolfPup !!!!
 
I've got a Fehrman Extreme Judgement on order, will be interesting to see for myself how it holds up as a chopper.

I could be talked into a Gossman chopper in 3V. :thumbup: Also +1 on the WTK.
 
How about a wharncliffe PSK? A variation of a great knife in a different steel.

I would prefer a smaller knife because:
1. I like smaller knives
2. It would be in my price range
 
One problem I've heard so far about 3V is availibility of the steel and cost. mapper, trust me, you will have no problems with your Fehrman knife.
pitdog, TOPS knives are popular, just not discussed much.
Scott
 
I would like to see it in a blade with a full convex edge with no secondary bevel.

To my mind in the one 3v I have that is the advantage. That you can make the edge super thin for cutting efficiency but it is still pretty tough because of the 3v.
 
I love my Fehrman Peacekeeper. I would love to see a British (Woodlore) inspired bushcrafter out of it.
 
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