Just finished a spine whack test on my Buck Select.

[cncpro11]

Don't joke. Next will be the guys coming out saying their sheath is unsafe and they have to light it on fire and smack the knife against a wall to make sure it doesn't cut through. I see no end to trends lol

My pocket clip failed the prybar test...now I gotta go make a YT video.

 

[POCEH KOCEB]

.....It would be a natural thing for an EMT to bring the very small, very effective tool along. EMTs are bright enough to know, that they can expect to deal with people trapped in cars.
.....I simply maintain, that the optimal tool for the scenario you lined up (cutting seat belts off people trapped in a car) is the safety cutter or what ever variations of it there are (as opposed to a folding knife with which you might slash/stick/stab a panicky person or even an unconscious one in a hurry)...

I am not an EMT guy, but from my experience cutting patient clothes and other stuff I maintain that the special shears we used to use there are better for most cases, including belts for number of reasons:
1. One tool for few jobs. No need of specialty tool to dingle around when working in such messy environment, when you can do it with the shears.
2. You do not pull on clothes (belts) it is important not to use the special tool that was shown earlier in the thread, because in order to use it you have to hold the belt at least with one hand in order not to transfer the pulling force on to the patient, you don't know it's condition and it is better if possible to move him as less as you can before free of belts and other obstacles. Same applies when he's on the stretcher, brought in OR.
Using shears allow you to cut belts and clothes without moving patient...

This is precisely what I mean, I used those for 10 years in the OR, it'll cut trough almost any material, including small coins like pennies... In OR I worked we used to call them just "scissors", EMT guys call them "trauma" shears...

 

[cards94]

to spine whack or not to spine whack. that is the question.

 

[JNewell]

Don't joke. Next will be the guys coming out saying their sheath is unsafe and they have to light it on fire and smack the knife against a wall to make sure it doesn't cut through. I see no end to trends lol

Actually, have you ever seen what happens when some cretin bangs two (properly hardened) hammer faces together smartly? On the other hand, axe polls are (or at least are supposed to be) pretty soft, so I'm confident that my axes will survive their pollwhacking.

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

Actually, have you ever seen what happens when some cretin bangs two (properly hardened) hammer faces together smartly? On the other hand, axe polls are (or at least are supposed to be) pretty soft, so I'm confident that my axes will survive their pollwhacking.

I've never seen it but I remember my shop teacher telling me two of the same hammers will shatter if smashed together. I don't think I was able to find a video either when I looked lol.

 

[BladeScout]

I am not an EMT guy, but from my experience cutting patient clothes and other stuff I maintain that the special shears we used to use there are better for most cases, including belts for number of reasons:
1. One tool for few jobs. No need of specialty tool to dingle around when working in such messy environment, when you can do it with the shears.
2. You do not pull on clothes (belts) it is important not to use the special tool that was shown earlier in the thread, because in order to use it you have to hold the belt at least with one hand in order not to transfer the pulling force on to the patient, you don't know it's condition and it is better if possible to move him as less as you can before free of belts and other obstacles. Same applies when he's on the stretcher, brought in OR.
Using shears allow you to cut belts and clothes without moving patient...

You manage to miss the point.
As previously mentioned I am not debating that some use other implements. Im not debating whether having one or more tools is the best, Im simply stating which tool is the best for cutting seat belts, all as previously stated.
The safety cutter is a dedicated tool, where as the shears used in that role is a multi-role tool. It was never meant for cutting seat belts only. You yourself state the other roles of trauma shears.
I dont know, what 'dingle' means, but I get the gist.
The beauty of the small safety cutter is that its totaly unobtrusive, as a civilian, Ive carried mine on car keys and it can sit on a kit/rig on professionals and sit totally tight on equipment or what ever and wont move an iota. Very handy and eay to grab even with gloves.

One of course has to have worked with both shears and the safety cutter. I have both, but understand that you presumably havent handled the small safety cutter or you would know this.

Your #2 point doesnt make a lot of sense.

Suffice it to say, that you are wrong.

With the safety cutter you barely have to touch the fabric and it immediately gives way and the material parts (as with other implements, the cutter has to be sharp. It comes very sharp from the factory. Im talking Benchmade here).

With the safety cutter, you dont pull on the clothes, you dont have to use both hands (especially not in regards to a tight seat belt), you dont transfer any force to the patient - the safety protrusion or 'hump,' which goes under the seat belt prevents that and the cutter goes through a seat belt like a warm knife through hot butter on a warm summers day - at least my Safety Cutter does. The imperative word in the name of the tool is 'safety.' In short, you are wrong.

But again; One of course has to have worked with both shears and the safety cutter. I have both, but understand that you presumably havent handled the small safety cutter or you would know this.

Quite frankly you are wasting my time in a 'spine whacking' thread. The safety cutter was only brought up, as one member mentioned using a knife inside a vehicle as an EMT and I pointed out a more safe implement hence him being able to avoid 'spine whacking' his knife in said situation by accident - nothing more.

This thread is not really meant to be a long drawn out debate about other implements though. I regret bringing it up and wont again. This is even more silly in a thread full of silly - no offence

Now we return to regular scheduled programming - spine shacking.....I mean whacking....I mean.....(Okay, so spine whacking is pretty silly too)