Just finished a spine whack test on my Buck Select.

dkb45 said:
Seriously, spine whacking in self defense?
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That's not at all what he is saying. He is said if your assailant comes at you with an object...let's say a pointed stick...and happens to whack the spine of the knife you have deployed with the pointed stick, said whacking might cause the lock to fail.

He's not talking about whacking a bad guy in the head with the spine of your knife.
 
dkb45 said:
That sounds like the words of a certain member that is no longer around here...

Seriously, spine whacking in self defense?
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I never even heard of something like this until reading it on here. Sounds completely idiotic to me but I'm sure there are some out there who swear by it.:p
 
The spine whack falls more under "abuse" than testing. I bought a Camillus cuda one day when I was inebriated and ended up hating it. It was the only knife I've ever set out to destroy, I'm happy to report that the cuda can take around 27 spine whacks before the liner lock experiences catastrophic failure :).
 
marcinek said:
That's not at all what he is saying. He is said if your assailant comes at you with an object...let's say a pointed stick...and happens to whack the spine of the knife you have deployed with the pointed stick, said whacking might cause the lock to fail.

He's not talking about whacking a bad guy in the head with the spine of your knife.
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Why would anyone put up their knife with the spine facing your opponent and to block something with it? :confused:
 
POCEH KOCEB said:
So it's not nothing. It shows that this particular model/design simply fails one of the requirements to be a weapon, that's it. Many "tactical" knifes will fail this test
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Your whole post is a joke right? Folding knives ( the plural of knife) are just that ...folding. If you want a knife that won't fold .. well that is what fixed blades are for.

I carry a ZT0301 daily. I do not baby it at all. It is simply a tool, I have pried with it and even batoned it to make kindling. I have never spine whacked it. I can't concieve a realistic use where pressure is applied to the spine without the edge in contact with some media I am cutting or splitting.

Your criteria of a knife needing to be a stand-in for an impact weapon (spine first )to be 'usefull' is rather strange.

Do you have any real world accounts of this need making a differance in ANY self defense encounters?
 
Well I would say that we all learned that this particular knife cannot be used to hammer small nails :rolleyes:
 
sunandsteel said:
Why would anyone put up their knife with the spine facing your opponent and to block something with it? :confused:
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They wouldn't...more evidence that the spine whack text is pointless. I believe what our tactical friend is saying is that you got your knife pointed at the bad guy...point forward, edge down...like you are ready to stick 'em, and he takes a downward swing at your hand area, misses, and hits the spine of the knife, causing the lock to fail. Happens all the time. :rolleyes:
 
I did a knife cut my sandwich test today followed by a cut my apple test. The sandwich and the apple both failed miserably. I am off to see if I can get my faulty sandwich and apple replaced by the manufacturer (my wife) so I might try to duplicate the results. Pictures to follow.
 
marcinek said:
That's not at all what he is saying. He is said if your assailant comes at you with an object...let's say a pointed stick...and happens to whack the spine of the knife you have deployed with the pointed stick, said whacking might cause the lock to fail.

He's not talking about whacking a bad guy in the head with the spine of your knife.
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...LOL..:rolleyes:
 
marcinek said:
They wouldn't...more evidence that the spine whack text is pointless. I believe what our tactical friend is saying is that you got your knife pointed at the bad guy...point forward, edge down...like you are ready to stick 'em, and he takes a downward swing at your hand area, misses, and hits the spine of the knife, causing the lock to fail. Happens all the time. :rolleyes:
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I've seen that happen often, in bruce lee movies.
 
Bugout Bill said:
Ugh. Why people feel the need to baton with a folder is beyond me, particularly with a locked knife.
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Well you know, if you happen to be on a backpacking or camping trip and it's just you and the folder because your fixed blade got lost. The folder must be able to provide firewood for you to survive and live off the land until help arrives. :p
 
Just finished a spine whack test on my Buck Select.
Just out of curiosity I did a sphine whack test on my Buck select. It's a $25 knife with a liner lock and has been a good knife for basic stuff. I'm not sure what I learned from the test ...

I can't see where a spine whack is a valid test of anything, unless you plan on using the spine of your blade as a hammer...

They should stop calling it a spine whack test and start calling it a lock abuse procedure...
 
I did some critical thinking and figured out why people do all these crazy tests. I think it's because no one wants to talk about or watch videos of folding knives doing what it is they're designed to do. You know, cut stuff. Listen to this exciting story...

Early this morning there was a stray piece of fabric dangling from my pants so I opened my knife and cut it off. A little later I needed to open a box of diapers for my 2yo daughter and used my knife to cut through the tape on the box. When my wife got home she had a plastic package she couldn't open so I got my knife out and carefully cut the top off. I also sliced an orange into 4 pieces. After that hard day of work my knife slept in the drawer. The end.

In that story I don't abuse my knife. No whacking in any direction, no cutting wood, never paired it up with a hammer...kinda boring. Thanks for reading though! ;)
 
fetzer85 said:
I did some critical thinking and figured out why people do all these crazy tests. I think it's because no one wants to talk about or watch videos of folding knives doing what it is they're designed to do. You know, cut stuff. Listen to this exciting story...

Early this morning there was a stray piece of fabric dangling from my pants so I opened my knife and cut it off. A little later I needed to open a box of diapers for my 2yo daughter and used my knife to cut through the tape on the box. When my wife got home she had a plastic package she couldn't open so I got my knife out and carefully cut the top off. I also sliced an orange into 4 pieces. After that hard day of work my knife slept in the drawer. The end.

In that story I don't abuse my knife. No whacking in any direction, no cutting wood, never paired it up with a hammer...kinda boring. Thanks for reading though! ;)
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Gold:D
 
That's platinum :thumbup: I prefer the 10 lb sledgehammer test either set on the ground or put it a vise any quality folder should be able to take at least 5 direct hits or its junk.
 
fetzer85 said:
I did some critical thinking and figured out why people do all these crazy tests. I think it's because no one wants to talk about or watch videos of folding knives doing what it is they're designed to do. You know, cut stuff. Listen to this exciting story...

Early this morning there was a stray piece of fabric dangling from my pants so I opened my knife and cut it off. A little later I needed to open a box of diapers for my 2yo daughter and used my knife to cut through the tape on the box. When my wife got home she had a plastic package she couldn't open so I got my knife out and carefully cut the top off. I also sliced an orange into 4 pieces. After that hard day of work my knife slept in the drawer. The end.

In that story I don't abuse my knife. No whacking in any direction, no cutting wood, never paired it up with a hammer...kinda boring. Thanks for reading though! ;)
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You left out the part where you flicked the knife open and closed all day checking the locking mechanism :thumbup:
 
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