Just Finished The Rising Sun Survivalist Knife

Archer Here

Archer Here

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Hey guys, Let me know what you think.

Designed off of the Japanese Samurai Sword, while still maintaining a survivalist look and function. Front end was designed to dig. The spine has teeth for sawing. Has a regular blade. Towards the guard, there is a notch for cutting (rope, barb wire, etc).

Heat Treatment:
Blade was cut out and Normalized @ 1500 degrees until non magnetic, three times, to remove stresses and align crystals. Heat Hardened to @ 1500 degrees, until blade became nonmagnetic, then quenched in 125 degree quality oil. Tempered the blade to a straw hardness @ 425 degrees for 1 hour, letting it air cool and repeating once more. Blade was file tested and is shown to be very hard.

Steel: 5160 Steel.
Finish: Fine satin finished. Guard has a baked on black mat finish.
Handle: Handle is made of Pipe & Wax String.
Sheath: Sheath is hand stitched out of dark brown gator hide and thick leather backing. Includes thigh strap and belt loop.

Measurements:
Tot Length: 13 ¼ "
Blade Length=8 " Blade Width=2” Blade Thickness= ¼"
Handle Length: 5 ¼ " Handle Width: ¾ "
Weight: 19 oz

Below are pictures of the finished knife.
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Thanks
 
Dude, at the risk of sounding patronizing here's a tip. I know a bunch of makers put up work they've done on this forum, but they get away with it because they also contribute to the threads in other ways. Before you deliver another "just finished this" type thread I'd jump in on the discussions running in some of the other debates. I've a feeling the moderators are gonna hit you for spamming if you don't.
 
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Dude, at the risk of sounding patronizing here's a tip. I know a bunch of makers put up work they've done on this forum, but they get away with it because they also contribute to the threads in other ways. Before you deliver another "just finished this" type thread I'd jump in on the discussions running in some of the other debates. I've a feeling the moderators are gonna hit you for spamming if you don't.
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I agree here with BaldTacoII, a couple of people that otherwise might have been great people have gotten themselves banned for this type of thing. I like checking out custom knives as much as the next guy...but there is a place for you to post these here in Bladeforums (makers forum), and WSS is a place many of us come to discuss skills and gear. So its a fine line, but I feel many makers push the limits.
Archerhere, I would like to say, I have followed your start here on BF, and your skills are improving greatly, and the fact that you are a Boyer as well, I think that you should take our advice and join in the discussions here...I have a feeling that you have quite a bit to offer. Gene
 
Well, at least his pictures were taken outdoors :D

Chris, lets talk a bit about the design of your knife and what you see as its survival attributes. For example, what function did you envision for the back saw/serrations? Notching? That looks like a very aggressive guard, more so than we usually see on woodsy knives. I'm also intrigued on the handle shape - is it cord wrapped? Almost looks like a hollow handle but I can't tell. What about the but cap? Can it be used for hammering etc?

Thanks
 
Other than the good advice the others gave you, if you want an honest opinion, I think it looks hideous and rather Ramboish. Would not be of any interest to me.
 
I kinda dig it.. it looks well balanced too.. Certainly has it's own place that's for sure. a bit like the tracker, some like some don't..
 
Wow, I kinda jumped in the camp fire with this knife! I must have touched a nerve with a few of you. Hmm. I was only advised by another member that this and my golok camp knife would be of interest to the folks in this forum. I also thought since I had never made a survivalist knife before, that I could get some really good feedback, which would be of help with something else I make. As far as being “hideous” and “Ramboish”, why thank you. I like them movies and the knives. Gil Hibben’s is one of my favorite knife makers. Check out my web site. I try to make a whole variety of knives (whatever my mind wants to draw, I make it, and I love it!).

I’ll stick to the makers shop forum for feedback and the “for sale” for selling my blades. When I have more time, I’ll come back and try to participate in this forum. I’m sure there are a lot of interesting topics. Chris
 
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Not to sound negative or anything .... But it dont strike me as an outdoors knife. Besides Choping, what else can you do well with it?? Im sure when the need arises you make do with what you got. But it wont lend its self to making a trap or other fine things. It just too brutish of a blade. With a complicated blade and guard design. But what do i know as i never made my own knife.

Sasha
 
Archer Here said:
Wow, I kinda jumped in the camp fire with this knife! I must have touched a nerve with a few of you. Hmm. I was only advised by another member that this and my golok camp knife would be of interest to the folks in this forum. I also thought since I had never made a survivalist knife before, that I could get some really good feedback, which would be of help with something else I make. As far as being “hideous” and “Ramboish”, why thank you. I like them movies and the knives. Gil Hibben’s is one of my favorite knife makers. Check out my web site. I try to make a whole variety of knives (whatever my mind wants to draw, I make it, and I love it!).

I’ll stick to the makers shop forum for feedback and the “for sale” for selling my blades. When I have more time, I’ll come back and try to participate in this forum. I’m sure there are a lot of interesting topics. Chris
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Chris,
thanks for responding. I really meant it when I said I wished you would join us here. I for one am VERY interested in the art of making a bow...your input would be invaluble for sure. As far as your knife here goes..I like it! It looks a bit ruff, but you are a new maker right?! I think that your skills and manufacturing is improving very quickly, it shows you have the guts and wearwithall to do whats in your mind. I also like that you take criticism like a champ! :thumbup: You strike me a a tough outdoorsy guy...I think you would find that you like the discussions here. Anyway, thats all the wooing that I can spare:D
 
Archer Here said:
Wow, I kinda jumped in the camp fire with this knife! I must have touched a nerve with a few of you. Hmm. I was only advised by another member that this and my golok camp knife would be of interest to the folks in this forum. I also thought since I had never made a survivalist knife before, that I could get some really good feedback, which would be of help with something else I make. As far as being “hideous” and “Ramboish”, why thank you. I like them movies and the knives. Gil Hibben’s is one of my favorite knife makers. Check out my web site. I try to make a whole variety of knives (whatever my mind wants to draw, I make it, and I love it!).

I’ll stick to the makers shop forum for feedback and the “for sale” for selling my blades. When I have more time, I’ll come back and try to participate in this forum. I’m sure there are a lot of interesting topics. Chris
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Well for my part consider it more of a heads-up than anything else. When I'm being mean it's very different to that. It's worth noting that not so long ago moderators requested input from members as to the devising of a set of guidelines for noobs. Of the many directions that could have taken the lions share centered around emotions and the acceptable level of advertising that goes on here. Nothing concrete really came of that mostly because it was deemed better to moderate by having a feeling for the flavour of the place and with discretion rather than with rigidity. I happen to believe that is for the best but you could have all too easily fallen foul as a relatively new face. My opinion of your knives is a different can of worms all together. Anyway, as above, I hope to see you chiming in as you see fit. Cool. :-)
 
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Welcome.

Not to my taste, but nicely finished, and as you say, has a Hibben flavor to it.

Croc hide sheath looks neat.


Kis
enjoy every sandwich
 
Not my cup of tea, but it looks well made, and the croc sheath is very good looking. :thumbup:

Id like to see some of your bows! Got pics?? :o
 
Here's a topic thought Archer.

Why not shed some light on what materials, techniques, etc for making a simple self-bow?

I would be interested to hear how to pick or evaluate the proper stave, how to properly tiller, etc.

Brian
 
all though i'm not quite sure i would use that in a survival situation, given that a survival knife is whatever knife u have with you at the time you need to survive (which would mean my fox river).

there is one thing i would like to say though....





THAT THING IS A BEAST!


i like the rambo-esque design look to it. the front which looks unsharpened to me would make a great shovel for digging a trench around my tent or for putting supports in the ground for a table.

perhaps you could put one up for a passaround some time to see how it stacks up in survival scenarios. of course you'd have to keep in mind the blade could get damaged during trials but then again, if it survives, all the more credibility to your survival knife design.


btw the sheath looks great!


JC
 
Well it might be the answer to the "knife for cougar defense" thread from a few weeks ago. :p
I think it looks cool, but I don't believe I would find it very useful in the bush. I really only buy knifes that I am going to use, but that's just me.
 
The gentlemen addressed this issue before I had to. These threads were going down the Spamway for sure. I'll also recommend posting in the maker's thread first and using this forum as a gallery if your knives are actually being used. Show a skill with your knife and it is fine, just showing your knife is SPAM in my book.
 
Nice finish for sure...not sure I really "get" this knife in terms of wilderness use though.

On the plus side you could stab as hard as you want without sliding on to the blade!

I definitely see the Hibben influence. He is a very commercially successful designer so that could be a good thing for you in terms of marketing your knives. Not everyone here would share your enthusiasm for his designs but taste is a personal thing.

One thing to consider when making blades intended to appeal to wilderness survival types: what problem will the machine you built solve? What task is it going to perform?

I am not a knife maker but when I buy gear, I don't start with the gear and find a reason to have it. I start with a need, and I fill that need.

Collectors will differ but I believe most of the guys here are users first, collectors second.
 
Hey Chris - Is that front end not sharpened? Kind of a cool idea, almost like an e tool with one of the sides sharpened.
 
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