Just ordered a Ganzo g710

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Hi everyone I just ordered a ganzo g710. Its a great looking knife and got excellent reviews. Does anyone up here have one? Do they cut stuff well?
 
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That is a direct knock off of the benchmade rift. No wonder ganzo is still in business, people constantly purchase their garbage.

I would recommend not supporting ganzo and shell out the cash and buy a real benchmade rift, benchmades warranty is awesome and they are made out of the advertised materials. I also suggest educating yourself with ganzo, not a favorable company on bladeforums for very good reasons.
 
Even funnier, the benchmade model they are copying is the 950 rift but they used 710 as there numbers. A benchmade 710 is another model entirely :rolleyes: incompetent fools can't even match up the damn model numbers correctly LOL
 
One last thing lol linking to amazon sales is against the rules, as they are not a paid dealer... could be wise to edit out the link and just post a picture of the 950 rift wannabe.
 
Hi! If you're not familiar with Ganzo I can totally understand why you would pick one. They are fairly solid knives for the price from a pure utility standpoint. That said, as other have already pointed out, they blatantly copy designs and patented technology from American knife companies and, as such, are generally regarded as dishonest and looked down on around here. Rather than support them, may I suggest looking at the Byrd line of knives from Spyderco? They often can be found for comparable prices, but are original designs, are backed up by a solid warranty and are generally much better regarded. Hope that helps!
 
It's only been 40 minutes, can you put a stop payment on the knife?
 
shinyedges said:
That is a direct knock off of the benchmade rift. No wonder ganzo is still in business, people constantly purchase their garbage.

I would recommend not supporting ganzo and shell out the cash and buy a real benchmade rift, benchmades warranty is awesome and they are made out of the advertised materials. I also suggest educating yourself with ganzo, not a favorable company on bladeforums for very good reasons.
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Everything he said and then some. I see that you're new to Blade Forums, so for starters "Welcome"! You should remove your link to the Mighty River website as that's against forum rules.

The issue of counterfeits, copies, clones and patent infringement is a very volatile topic here. You may feel like you're getting attacked for asking a simple question but remember that most of the knife enthusiasts here see counterfeits, copies, clones and patent infringement as a threat to a hobby and industry that we care deeply about. It's probably something a casual knife user will never appreciate, in fact we enthusiasts don't even have consensus concerning the impact of copy knives. We can, and do, argue without end about the subject :p.

The Ganzo knife poses two problems from the viewpoint of a knife enthusiast. As has been said, it's a near exact copy of a Benchmade 950 Rift. Here's the Benchmade knife:
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By copying this knife, Ganzo has taken the design efforts of a man named Warren Osborne and are using it for a product that they market with their name and number. That's not cool in any industry. Imagine Hyundai producing exact clones of a Honda Civic?

Ganzo goes a step further with the G710. The lock mechanism is a patented feature currently licensed to Benchmade called the Axis Lock. Benchmade has even Trademarked "Axis Lock". There's a lot of disagreement about when the actual patent expires, but most of us here now acknowledge that the patent is likely still in force. Ganzo uses the Axis Lock on many knives, even marketing it as an "Axis Lock". Being that the knife is manufactured in China, there is no jurisdiction for a US patent to be enforced. In theory, Benchmade could go after Amazon for selling the knives Stateside, but that might not end well when you compare the legal dollars that each company could bring to bear. It's a bad situation where the lawful owners have little, viable recourse.

So, with that being said, you have some options.
1. Enjoy your copy knife and use it in good health. Don't expect to get positive feedback from us knife knuts. Much of the feedback may be very negative. I hope you now understand why.
2. If you like the knife, save your money and buy the real thing. You're going to hear that from a lot of people but it doesn't really carry much weight. The Ganzo is $20 and the Benchmade is $170. That's probably not even a conceivable amount of money to spend for a casual user.
3. Purchase a different high-value knife that's an original design and that violates no patent rights. We'd be happy as a community to offer ideas and suggestions along that line. Ganzos are fairly well made for the price point, but there are actually some much better options.

You may also be accused of being a troll. It happens here from time to time where someone will start a thread about a clone knife just to stir up a hornets nest. If you are a troll, get back under your bridge. The Billygoats are coming.
 
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Hackenslash said:
So, with that being said, you have some options.
1. Enjoy your copy knife and use it in good health. Don't expect to get positive feedback from us knife knuts. Much of the feedback may be very negative. I hope you now understand why.
2. If you like the knife, save your money and buy the real thing. You're going to hear that from a lot of people but it doesn't really carry much weight. The Ganzo is $20 and the Benchmade is $170. That's probably not even a conceivable amount of money to spend for a casual user.
3. Purchase a different high-value knife that's an original design and that violates no patent rights. We'd be happy as a community to offer ideas and suggestions along that line. Ganzos are fairly well made for the price point, but there are actually some much better options.
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I wanted to add another option that I forgot to include in my original post.
4. Do your knife shopping at dealers who support the industry. Amazon does not. eBay does not. These two sellers are where you'll find Ganzo and their ilk being sold. If you visit the sites of legit knife retailers, you'll not see Ganzos for sale. If you do business with one of those you can be "mostly" certain your new knife doesn't violate anyone's rights. There's a list of supporting Dealers available on this site. It would be a good place to start.
 
Spot on folks. I don't even have a thing to add :thumbup:

OP, Rat 1 is a good option and so is the Utilitac II. These are inexpensive. Not counterfeits. Made of known materials. From a quality company. And come with a warranty from said quality company.
 
Quick comment about hacknslash's statements:

While still pricey for a "new guy" , a user rift can be found in the exchange for under $100 every now and then.
 
craytab said:
Spot on folks. I don't even have a thing to add :thumbup:

OP, Rat 1 is a good option and so is the Utilitac II. These are inexpensive. Not counterfeits. Made of known materials. From a quality company. And come with a warranty from said quality company.
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Utilitac II FTW!

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I much prefer it over all my Ganzos, even though shipping kan kill the deal outside the US

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NJBillK said:
Quick comment about hacknslash's statements:

While still pricey for a "new guy" , a user rift can be found in the exchange for under $100 every now and then.
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Yup. That is what I got mine for and also what I sold it for I believe.
 
I wanted to also mention, that many of the reputable online knife dealers, popular on this forum, have prices similar to, if not better than Amazon. I often check multiple online dealers, including amazon, to compare prices.
 
Please keep in mind that you are welcome here at blade forums. We want you to stay. We really do. We don't hate you or anything.

It is just the product that you are interested in is the issue. You will find that some people here feel very strongly about Ganzo and their Benchmade copies. Others don't care at all.

Ganzo makes plenty of knives that don't infringe on designer's rights or other companies. Maybe consider one of those?
 
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Seems like the Ganzo 710 is available for $20 or so. For less than another 10 bucks you can have an Ontario Utilitac, arguably the best value in an inexpensive folder, that also gets rave reviews, kudos from folks who own
one and isn't a ripoff of anyone's design.
 
Hell, I feel like I came off a jerk. Apologies, the ganzo ordeal isn't well known to non knife guys.

I will work on my tact.
 
ChainDragger said:
Hi everyone I just ordered a ganzo g710. Its a great looking knife and got excellent reviews. Does anyone up here have one? Do they cut stuff well?
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Good purchase mate. Ganzo are great value for money.
All those that I have have got f&f, decent steel, take a sharp edge, lock up nicely and overall are really cool.

Congratulations on a nice workhorse of a knife.

Don't mind people ripping on the company... most models are indeed inspired by competitor knives, but they do not brand them as such, use different locking, different sizes, different handle materials and different steels from the original (often better than the original - I'm looking at you Rat2) and cost 10 times less than the others...

If you need a decent working knife, enjoy your new toy.

Queue epeen comments - I really never understood why people are always so concerned on other people's purchases...

If Spyderco and Benchmade don't care about Ganzo, why would some guy on a forum care?

And for the record, I wouldn't get a Spyderco-inspired Ganzo, because I respect that company too much... I only get them when I want to try new patterns at decent sizes (looking at you Bedlam) and decent prices...
If I ever saw a Benchmade that made me feel like paying 100 USD for its extra cutting power or ergonomics or anything, I'd get one instead of Ganzo too....
 
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