Just returned from elk hunt; are we over thinking this?

I'd imagine the number of people who have three animals that need to be dressed right at dark, about the same as I'm trying to imagine where in the timeline one minute between each animal on a softer knife wouldn't fit, and something much more satisfying to use (like an arkansas pocket hone) would work fine.

The difference between 1095 and 3v is probably more like the difference between whitetail deer hunting in the woods with a .308 vs a 300wby (not knocking the latter - that's what I have, but I don't remember a shot here in the east that I couldn't have made with a .308 - I was just young and wanted something with a lot of powder capacity).

When we're doing something in woodworking, we generally sharpen before things get dull enough for there to be an effort issue. I have to admit that if I had to dress an animal, I'd love a minute break between animals to sharpen the knife and clear my mind and maybe have a sip of something. When I started woodworking, I went after supersteels, trying to find the best high hardness chisels, etc, and I still like those tools, but there's no practical need for them. There is a need for the retailers to use those materials, though, because nobody is going to pay $600 for a set of chisels made out of inexpensive drill rod. The chisels are even a little bit more simple because they rarely fail from abrasion and the purest crisp edge at high hardness generally wins a standardized test. Of course, you can market, that, too, by convincing people that they can't get work done at 63 hardness if there are 65 hardness chisels available, and you can also add some secret magic from a blacksmith (who is more than likely making one every few minutes, and in some cases, those chisels are pressed in dies).

My point is, very little of what we do with high end goods is for the purpose of their use. It's for the purpose of the goods. My father enjoys hunting a lot more than I do, and he has always dressed everything he hunts with an old camillus knife. He's a fan of it because he uses a pocket stone on the knife each time he uses it, just briefly, and he's never had to do anything more to it. I couldn't convince him to get a new knife as a gift (years ago, I bought him a new fixed blade buck knife, but I can't get him to use it. He'd be a bad recipient of a $400 knife as he first, would never use it because it's too expensive and should be saved, and second, would be insulted to get a $400 knife).
 
This is a fun topic and thread. Unlike the OP, I do not hunt but something I am discovering is the concept of “good enough.” I know that I just picked up a CRK Mnandi for my EDC when my older Queen slipjoint would do just as good of a job and I replaced a Timex watch with a watch from Seko but I have been moving towards the “good enough” philosophy with my firearms. I am not so enamored with the thought of a rifle or two that can shoot sub-MOA groups. As long as the rifle is good enough in the accuracy and precision department then I will spend the money on more ammo. Another example is with pocket flashlights; I have been considering a Surefire Titan Plus at about $100. I now realize that the Maglite Solitare currently in my pocket is really “good enough” for my flashlight needs.
It is easy to get all wrapped up in new stuff with new features.


The Titan Plus is a great little flashlight, you should definitely grab one. :)
 
Over thinking...of course, and falling for classic marketing strategies. Steel-of-the-week is marketing 101...Thanks Benchmade and Spyderco for starting that trend. No one really cared too much before 1991, and BM started splattering ATS34 all over their marketing and they were probably the first company to actually mark the blade with steel type.

the day to day performance difference is slim, yet the bragging rights are extreme.

I have a folder made A514 steel. Not a very common steel for knife blades. But, if it was stamped on the side of a blade, and marketed as the next big thing, knife people would flip out.
 
I have a folder made A514 steel. Not a very common steel for knife blades. But, if it was stamped on the side of a blade, and marketed as the next big thing, knife people would flip out.

Just a rumor I heard, but with China developing their star-fusion device, I heard Bestech is going to be coming out with Beskar blades?
;)
 
Great thread. Not to derail, but I do think the watch comparison is off. Unlike the steel, knife cost, and skinning performance comparisons... A g shock will out perform a rolex submariner in almost every measurable way at a fraction of the cost. Timekeeping performance is rarely the top priority amongst the high end watch crowd.
 
Great thread. Not to derail, but I do think the watch comparison is off. Unlike the steel, knife cost, and skinning performance comparisons... A g shock will out perform a rolex submariner in almost every measurable way at a fraction of the cost. Timekeeping performance is rarely the top priority amongst the high end watch crowd.

Im not a watch guy but that is fair. Perhaps a better comparison would be firearms. You can get a pretty darn good firearm now for around 500$. Anything past that (in the handgun market at least) and you are starting to get into preferences that people that shoot a lot would appreciate but not the casual user like trigger weight, barrel porting, and materials.
 
I had the same epiphany Salty after living in the far north. The natives used just about anything that did the job to process large and small animals. While there is value (to me) about having some basic knife and steel knowledge, the topics do tend to get obsessive and over the top at times.
 
Im not a watch guy but that is fair. Perhaps a better comparison would be firearms. You can get a pretty darn good firearm now for around 500$. Anything past that (in the handgun market at least) and you are starting to get into preferences that people that shoot a lot would appreciate but not the casual user like trigger weight, barrel porting, and materials.

I'm a recovering watch nerd and a bidding firearms guy
Im not a watch guy but that is fair. Perhaps a better comparison would be firearms. You can get a pretty darn good firearm now for around 500$. Anything past that (in the handgun market at least) and you are starting to get into preferences that people that shoot a lot would appreciate but not the casual user like trigger weight, barrel porting, and materials.

I still got the point of the comparison, just thought there was a distinction worth pointing out. As a budding firearm's guy, that comparison does seem to make sense.
 
We are overthinking it because:
1. We want it.
2. We can afford it.

You have no duty to explain yourself beyond that. However I myself am questioning my knife collection and whether I’m really that into it anymore. Started selling everything. My Buck 560, Diamondblade Victor, 2 Ganzos and 2 old cold steels and a multitool will probably be all that remains. I’ll see at that point what I truly want and if I do I’ll rebuy it.
 
I don't consider it "overthinking", I call it "enthusiasm".

There are many ways to appreciate knives, that's what makes them so interesting. I don't imagine anyone would bother to join a knife forum if a knife were nothing more than a cutting tool to them. A spoon serves a vital function, we all use them, perhaps daily, but how many of us are members of a spoon forum.

Knives are cool. They come in a seemingly infinite variety. There are several aspects about them to focus on- design, materials, mechanisms, etc. And heck, we gotta do something to pass the time and provide us with a distraction from all the crap in life. Might as well pass the time thinking about knives.
 
About 40 years ago, Bob Loveless agreed to a sit down interview for Blade (or some other) magazine. At lunchtime, his wife served steak. Bob started cutting the steak with a plastic knife. The interviewer was in disbelief. He asked Bob “you’re the greatest knife maker in the world and you’re using a plastic knife”? Bob’s reply was simply “it does the job“.
 
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