Just saw this.....Bark River is no more?

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mtice1 said:
It appears BladeHQ has also pulled their Bark River inventory from their website, which would be the honorable thing for KSF and DLT to do until they can verify what they are selling, if possible. Otherwise that stock should not be circulating.
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They're hoping to deplete whatever stock they can to the fanboi or the uninitiated ("Look, what a great deal!")

Not a good look
 
mtice1 said:
It appears BladeHQ has also pulled their Bark River inventory from their website, which would be the honorable thing for KSF and DLT to do until they can verify what they are selling, if possible. Otherwise that stock should not be circulating.
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Weird, when I looked at Bladehq a couple days ago, their Bark River section was completely empty. Now I'm seeing knives, but they're all showing out of stock.

The longer DLT and KSF continue to allow BR knives to be purchased without verifying what they are, the worse it looks for them.
 
Based on what this guy is saying, there may have been some shenanigans going on with more than just the handful of knives he confessed to. I've seen other people post similar complaints about their Magnacut.

 
Well likely the cost to test and sell with verified steel is too great. So there will be a glut of user blades people can pick up at deep discounts to take their frustrations out on. No need for safe queen (CHINA)arkies.
 
Ozmose said:
Based on what this guy is saying, there may have been some shenanigans going on with more than just the handful of knives he confessed to. I've seen other people post similar complaints about their Magnacut.

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Already addressed by Larrin.
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somber said:

XRF test shows MagnaCut BRK with tungsten, which isn’t supposed to be contained in the steel.

How deep does the fraud go?
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He said in the video that XRF is for soils not for metals, the composition doesn’t look like any steel available. The composition doesn’t make sense . He even had another MagnaCut knife and didn’t test it as a comparison to see that it didn’t test correctly either. Then he fed the nonsensical data into AI and read it to people. If that knife isn’t MagnaCut the video doesn’t prove it.
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mtice1 said:
It appears BladeHQ has also pulled their Bark River inventory from their website, which would be the honorable thing for KSF and DLT to do until they can verify what they are selling, if possible. Otherwise that stock should not be circulating.
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BladeHQ still has Blackjack models up. They don't show the backside of the knives with the BR logo. Maybe they were missed?

goldie said:
So after they pull these knives from being sold, what becomes of them ?
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Personally, I think the honorable thing to do would be to pull them until a sample has been tested for steel composition. No way are they going to test all of them. The ones that come back as Chinese, take the loss and donate them to the poor in other countries. The ones that do come back with the correct steel, sell them at cost.

To me, that would redeem them. Unfortunately, if you get in bed with slime, you reap what is sown. KSF has always done me solid and Derrick was a real stand up guy, but if they don't wash their hands of BRK, I'll think differently.
 
Larrin said:
He even had another MagnaCut knife and didn’t test it as a comparison to see that it didn’t test correctly either.
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Incorrect.

He did state that he did test the other MagnaCut with the XRF he had available and it gave a similar composition.

Larrin said:
Then he fed the nonsensical data into AI and read it to people. If that knife isn’t MagnaCut the video doesn’t prove it.
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The AI pointed out the observation that the XRF gave a reading for tungsten. Is tungsten present in MagnaCut?
 
So Jim Sterwart, the Production and Operations Manager, claims he did not know what was going on with the Chinese blade blank fraud in his shop? The shop that he manages the operation of and production in. That shop. OK, yeah right, sure he didn't, he was blissfully unaware.

The lack of honesty and integrity with the Stewart's is unreal.
 
V-1 said:
So Jim Sterwart, the Production and Operations Manager, claims he did not know what was going on with the Chinese blade blank fraud in his shop? The shop that he manages the operation of and production in. That shop. OK, yeah right, sure he didn't, he was blissfully unaware.

The lack of honesty and integrity with the Stewart's is unreal.
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Check post #838...he says he knew.
 
somber said:
Incorrect.

He did state that he did test the other MagnaCut with the XRF he had available and it gave a similar composition.
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I don’t hear anywhere in the video where he states that but if you would like to give the time stamp I am happy to listen again.

Edit: Nevermind. My listening skills are working just fine. He said in the comments he hasn’t tested any other MagnaCut knives.
 

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At 19:00 you can watch him testing both knives with the XRF.

Don’t use your ears, use your eyes and literally watch it happen 😆
 
V-1 said:
So Jim Sterwart, the Production and Operations Manager, claims he did not know what was going on with the Chinese blade blank fraud in his shop? The shop that he manages the operation of and production in. That shop. OK, yeah right, sure he didn't, he was blissfully unaware.

The lack of honesty and integrity with the Stewart's is unreal.
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Actually he has admitted to knowing, but then went on to say that his father had the final say in those business decisions and they were just following his orders. And then further justified it claiming they did it to keep the business afloat, and he has a family with 5 kids to support, blah blah blah. The problem is, there’s so much more to the story leading up to them being in that financial position at all that he also had to be a contributing part of going back many years. So I take this as just so much horseshit.
 
So is there going to be a go to source if we want to send in a knife for verification?

If my Bravo 1 is really 3V then I'll still enjoy it but if it's 8cr or whatever then it will join the beater knife pile.
 
somber said:
At 19:00 you can watch him testing both knives with the XRF.

Don’t use your ears, use your eyes and literally watch it happen 😆
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Those are two Bark River knives. And the compositions shown on the screen are totally different than what he reported in the AI readout. For example, it says tungsten was not detected, the element you asked about before.
 
Sadly the cost to verify your BRK knife steel will exceed the value of the knife (with shipping costs and charge for steel testing). Bark River’s are what they are to whom ever owns or buys one. The unsavory reputation is now set in stone.
 
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