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I was going to buy one


I emailed them about 15 times and never got a answer
 
i would get an ATAX if i wanted to do something like this, it looks like the replacement blade for a tree pruner.

alex
 
grobe said:
i'd probably want a thicker stock. what's the price??
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I do not know the price. I have an email out to them. What thickness would you want? How about 1095 vs 01 vs D2? Would 1/4 inch stock be more what you would want?
 
for me personally, i'd lean towards 3/16" 1095. easier to field sharpen and more impact resistance when being used in the hatchet fashion.
 
I would think you could baton with a regular fixed blade just as well considering the small size. Obviously speculation on my part from the pictures. If someone purchases one, let us know how it does.
 
I was going to buy one
I emailed them about 15 times and never got a answer
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Same here. I've got an SAS tin and like that it fits inside.

for me personally, i'd lean towards 3/16" 1095. easier to field sharpen and more impact resistance when being used in the hatchet fashion.
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I like it. That's like the pilots survival knife thickness, nice and solid. V ground edge too, forget chisel.
 
Well, I have an email out to them. Depending on the price, I will probably go 01, 3/16 stock, with a V-ground and I will send you all some pictures and tell you what I think.

The ATAX is intriguing but bigger then what I am looking for. It kind of falls into that WSK class. I will eventually get something in that class but right now I am looking for something similar to this. Again, depends on if they want to email me back and what the sticker price is.

What is the benefit and/or deficit to V-ground vs chisel?
 
LSkylizard said:
Anyone use one? Anyone find it a good tool? Is it worth the money? Upside & downsides?
http://www.jenseneliteblades.com/just.htm
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I sent e-mail to them a long time ago: no answer=no solution.
I don't know the price either:mad:
To me will make good neckknife.:)
No answer no DEAL.
Maybe If I mail them for 100 pic I will get the ANSWER:confused:






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grobe said:
for me personally, i'd lean towards 3/16" 1095.
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Without the holes I can't imagine seeing failure in the stock due to the geometry. Consider in a 1/4" bowie with a flat grind, over one inch of stock is less than 1/8" thick, and this is the part that is heavily stressed during chopping/splitting. This is then not as thick as a 1/8" JUST which has a primary grind about 1/2" high from the pictures.

My only real concern are the holes right above the primary edge, if you look at the amount of steel that they leave above the edge it is pretty slim. Now imagine a worse case senario, take the JUST lash it to a long pole and use it for clearing poles/brush, on a swing cut through the brush and smash into a rock, take the full impact into the very thin wall between the holes.

I like the idea but would rather lashing points be used similar to how they are fashioned in stone axes which is through the shape of the blade and or cutouts/notches along the top and bottom not through the body.

-Cliff
 
interesting points, cliff. the reason i was thinking 3/16" was for added weight as well. maybe leaving the body solid, since the holes behind the edge aren't used for lashing, would serve to add extra weight as opposed to using a thicker stock.
 
Yeah, I definately would remove the speed holes, besides raw impacts, use it for clearing brush and get boughs inside though holes which would turn the head. Thicker stock would make it heavier, but you can also increase the impact energy by just making the handle longer, this generally is safer as well, and easier on the back and arms. You could of course just get a focos made with a hawk tapered eye socket. Anyone who makes axes/tomahawks would be able to do that.



-Cliff
 
Cliff Stamp said:
Without the holes I can't imagine seeing failure in the stock due to the geometry...My only real concern are the holes right above the primary edge...take the JUST lash it to a long pole and use it for clearing poles/brush, on a swing cut through the brush and smash into a rock...
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I like your ideas with regards to the holes on the primary edge. Those seem to be good points. As far as clearing brush, I wouldn't be doing that. If this little blade is the key to my survival, I would not risk fouling the blade on an unseen target or worse, God forbid, an accidental release into the woods at the end of a stick or pole while clearing brush. Granted, a release could occur in hatchet mode...but I think the utility/survival benefits are worth it. I can not say the same about clearing brush blindly. Again, I think your ideas about altering the hole distribution is excellent and if I actually hear back from them and choose this product, I will plan on custom hole placement and/or abscence.

What do you mean by this???
Cliff Stamp said:
...You could of course just get a focos made with a hawk tapered eye socket...
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What is the benefit and/or deficit to V-ground vs chisel?
 
LSkylizard said:
If this little blade is the key to my survival, I would not risk fouling the blade on an unseen target or worse, God forbid, an accidental release into the woods at the end of a stick or pole while clearing brush.
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In an actual survival situation you would do well in general to be over paranoid and protective of your gear, you should have a way to sharpen it in any case though, you could simply chop it into a piece of wood which some idiot has spiked.

The releases are pretty hard to do, with holes it would be impossible. I have lashed folders to poles on many occasions. The never fly off, it is really easy to prevent that, especially with holes, just use a secondary lashing in case the primary one breaks.

What do you mean by this???
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A focos is basically a really small tomahawk/axe head, usually used on the end of a walking staff. It would easily fit in a very small survival kit.

-Cliff
 
hey cliff, ever hear of the skatchet?? a friend showed me one the other day. too heavy for neck carry for my taste, but sounds similar to the 'focos' you mention. basically a small hatchet head that is contoured for hand use as a skinner and has a threaded eye. can be used as knife, hatchet, hammer and even has a gut hook. you just cut a branch and twist it up into the threaded eye. seemed pretty neat. his is about 40 years old, so i'm not sure they are made anymore.
 
A quick search for "focos", "locos", and "skachtet" has been negative. Love to see a picture of these blades?
 
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