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ahhhhhh. I see. and it is spelled "Fokos" as opposed to "focos" and "focus". That is why I did not find it. I appreciate you providing these links. I think that gives a broad range of options for the readers to view. Thank you:thumbup:
 
The spellings change somewhat, some custom makers refer to it as focos. Probably similar to khukuri, kukri, etc. .

-Cliff
 
Thomas Linton said:
I wonder why D2 for what is, in part, an impact tool.
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D2 is one of the tool steels promoted over the stainless steels for "hard use" knives even though that is exactly not what it is designed to do and what any book on tool steels will recommend against.

-Cliff
 
Cliff Stamp said:
The spellings change somewhat, some custom makers refer to it as focos. Probably similar to khukuri, kukri, etc. .

-Cliff
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Cliff, it has only one correct spelling: fokos.

It is a Hungarian word, meaning 'backed' (axe), and it is pronounced "fo'-kosh" ("o" like in 'old').
In most cases the 'backing' tool is a spike, but historically can be a knob too. The following source has some images to illustrate this, however it is not a definitive archeological, historical web-site. It is more like a site promoting "historical" mythology.
http://www.geocities.com/Kaganate/axehung.html

Originally it was a horseman's weapon, but eventually turned into a walking/self-defence "cane".
In some 19th-20th century examples the spike is omitted,
http://therionarms.com/sold/ttoy417.html
and it resembles the Polish highlanders' 'ciupaga':
http://www.polskiinternet.com/english/info/ciupaga.html
 
littleknife said:
Cliff, it has only one correct spelling: fokos.
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No arguement, just a note that some makers will call it focos, [SIZE=-1]Gilbert Guignard of Cactus Forge for example.

-Cliff
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caine said:
I emailed them about 15 times and never got a answer
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Burncycle said:
Same here...
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ishiyumisan said:
I sent e-mail to them a long time ago: no answer=no solution...No answer no DEAL...
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I am still waiting on a reply to my email inqiry. I will give them around a week before I accept the reported experience of others is the norm with this company...I hope that will not be the case:confused:
 
Well, does anyone own a JUST? It would be nice if someone had some experience with it and actually owned one. I am wondering as a last resort alternative. It would be nice to have a physical model so I might be able to commission one being made. That is NOT ideal and I would definately prefer an original JEB. I definately like the design. However, if the original maker is unable to supply his design, I am willing to try and commision someone else...with some minor modifications of my own specs.

I will attempt to post some pics/drawings of my ideas for the
JUST customized influenced by the recs of others in this discussion.
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I would like to make the handle end have an edge shape similar to that on the end of the Floro knife handle while keeping the same rounded geometry.
 
Basically an edge like this...without the hole:D :
floro1.jpg


The following are what I consider very good ideas posted by Cliff on this topic:
Cliff Stamp said:
As a pure survival blade there are a few things you can add which are useful like a squared end cap for scraping and/or a similar section on the spine for a ferro rod, and a small indendation to use as a holder for a fire drill. You also might want to configure it for easy set up of micarta handle slabs, trying to do any cutting with bare tang knives get uncomfortable and slippery fast. However you best bet may be to get a fairly clean version first, do a bunch of work of various types and see what would be helpful.

-Cliff
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I have been thinking about the micarta thing. The only problem I see is that part of why this would be useful is its thin profile. I could probably have ruler markings on the long straight edge too. I think a dent/pit/indendation for use in starting a fire by way of a bow and spindle is excellent and very easy....I guess this is all academic until I can get JEB to respond or find another maker willing to do it in place of JEB.

Anyone got experience with "Ceraguard" or "Cerakote" plating/finishing? Anyone gotten that done to a blade/axe/etc...? I know it is a new finish used on guns. I do not know how it might effect the heat treat and tempering as I do not know how it is applied. I will ask the gun people about that. I was just wondering how it might work with a tool like this in 01.
 
i think the uluchet is a great idea, it just needs a longer blade. id extend the tip of it into an actual point, so that way it can be used as a knife better. also the extra weight would really aide in chopping.
anyone know what the handle material is?
 
no, the coating will most likely not effect its HT. guns have a hardening and tempering process too. most likely it will have to bake at 400, just like all the other gun coatings available.
 
something like this:
ModJUST.jpg

Back of handle edge something like this (no hole):
floro1.jpg
I guess it is still an academic exercise until I can get JEB to respond (my first choice) or find another maker willing to do it in place of JEB.

The Uluchet ~ $130.00, not a neck carry.
The uluchet probably is an excellent idea. For right now, I am looking at this because of its simplicity, size, flat profile, neck carrying capacity...and ideally should be relatively inexpensive to make given its simplicity and minimal amount of steel...I could maybe go for two to start:D Besides, I hope to have my K5-tactical as my primary. This would be my easily portable back-up...leatherman in my pocket too.

Anyone got any insite on chisel vs V-ground in an application such as this?

Where are you Peter Jensen/JEB?:confused:
 
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