KA-BAR BECKER BK9 defective also : (

Ethan rocks!

as for cosmetic stuff, i strip my blades anyways adn they get used hard, wiped with oil and put away for the niext day, could'nt care about cosmetics.
 
I just got a BK7 in the mail and the slabs aren't perfectly flush :yawn:;)
I don't care at all. Bet it performs beautifully. If it doesn't then I'd have a problem. I don't expect perfection unless I pay for it.
 
AF said:
I just got a BK7 in the mail and the slabs aren't perfectly flush :yawn:;)
I don't care at all. Bet it performs beautifully. If it doesn't then I'd have a problem. I don't expect perfection unless I pay for it.
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So many imperfections to date? While I've decided to live with the minor imperfections on my KA-BAR Becker BK9, I do not consider it acceptable especially at this price level or at any level in this day and age 2009. Its a quality control problem; which I hope KA-BAR will get control of quickly as they say they are in process now. All we can do is wait for better products in the near future. Otherwise I am sure many will look elsewhere.
 
Either use the knife and be quiet, or send it back and get a new one.

Mass production of any type will have pieces here or there with a blemish, defect, etc... somewhere. That's why God invented recalls and warranties.

No sense in beating a dead horse. It'd be different if all you saw were: "My Becker is crap" threads. Instead, you see the exact opposite--and even the occasional: "She may not be pretty, but she sure knows how to f--k" thread.

Wouldn't give my BK9 for three higher priced "customs".
 
I have to second what KEmSAT-Survival said. I wouldn't trade my Becker for any of the knives that I see for 5 times the price, except to sell the high priced one to get enough money for more Beckers (and some other goodies, to boot).
 
KEmSAT-Survival said:
Wouldn't give my BK9 for three higher priced "customs".
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i've owned a few customs that also had production "knock offs"... not only did i feel cheated in some ways, those productions actually were better in many ways. go figure. i'm SO glad i was able to trade or ditch some of those ;)

heh. now, that being said, i've owned some customs, that well, yah, nothing can touch the elegance of having the master touch. even on some so called production models, the amount of hand labor and skill into each shows.

buy what you like, get the best you can, and enjoy it how you will.


Bladite
 
every great design gets off to a rough start until they acquire enough customer feedback to create a honeydo list for QC then they distribute the finances bestowed upon them by kabar hq on these problems to best resolve and control quality where it is feasible/possible these guys have alot on their plate and its hard to match the quality of the original beckers...so with such hard standards to meet, kabar does its best. they also right the oopsies so... I feel satisfied with my assessment and believe my beckers to be quality tools that will outlast me. and thats all I can possibly ask for less then 100 dollars a knife.
 
Ethan Becker said:
Hey syletoy......

I am very sorry that you got a Becker with a cosmetic problem......I talked to John this morning and Ka-Bar will, of course, replace the knife if you wish.....I do not know of any company who pays the freight on returns both ways..... If you know of one please let me know and that may reshape policy.....If you choose to not return your BK9 it should give give you many decades of good service....I apologise for any inconvenience and hope you give Beckers a chance to work for you....

All Best...

ethan
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Buck Knives pay the freight both ways, I purchased 2 buck knives and found small problems with them. Buck issued a ups call tag for them to pick them up right at my door!! They are in the process of sending me 2 brand new blades also without me paying shipping. That's service!! Also..soon as i contacted them there attitude was" no problem will send you 2 new ones".They didnt ask me a ton of questions, it was" your not happy,we will send you new ones".Outatanding service..:D
 
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ethan becker said:
hey syletoy......

I am very sorry that you got a becker with a cosmetic problem......i talked to john this morning and ka-bar will, of course, replace the knife if you wish.....i do not know of any company who pays the freight on returns both ways..... If you know of one please let me know and that may reshape policy.....if you choose to not return your bk9 it should give give you many decades of good service....i apologise for any inconvenience and hope you give beckers a chance to work for you....

All best...

Ethan
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blah blah blah.......man up........happy customers....or no customers
 
intel440 said:
blah blah blah.......man up........happy customers....or no customers
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Goodness...Whatever happened to manners these days...:yawn:

The offer was made to replace a knife with a purely cosmetic blemish. I think that's fair, given that the knife is designed to be beaten the hell up. It's not supposed to be a safe queen. :)
 
I've got a couple of blemishes in my BK-7 and I love the knife. Tough as nails and have been batoning the heck out of it testing it. Blemishes are part and parcel with price point. If I wanted perfection on F&F, no doubt, I'd be dropping $250+ on a falkniven northern light series blade. However, working blade and an amazing price point also works well for me. Keep up the good work Ethan & Kabar!
 
kgd said:
I've got a couple of blemishes in my BK-7 and I love the knife. Tough as nails and have been batoning the heck out of it testing it. Blemishes are part and parcel with price point. If I wanted perfection on F&F, no doubt, I'd be dropping $250+ on a falkniven northern light series blade. However, working blade and an amazing price point also works well for me. Keep up the good work Ethan & Kabar!
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as it happens i'm now the happy owner of a Njord, nice knife, and while the sheath is built like a tank, it's not a very captive sheath - dangerous in fact.

for the price point, Becker blades are hot stuff, but their sheaths? well, a lot of sheaths on knives costing 10x or more, are simply not as effective. assuming you GET a sheath.


Bladite
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
Goodness...Whatever happened to manners these days...:yawn:

The offer was made to replace a knife with a purely cosmetic blemish. I think that's fair, given that the knife is designed to be beaten the hell up. It's not supposed to be a safe queen. :)
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manners tend to come after a few hundred or thousand posts ;) in the meantime, don't feed the trolls. they soon find the ban hammer if they are truly worthy.

and up, afaik, EVERY single complaint made towards a Becker has been resolved in good favor and grace all around - even a couple bordering on abuse. THAT is what matters. KaBar stands behind their products.


Bladite
 
Knife center paid for the return of a BK2 that came looking like the grind at the tip was diong a left hand turn.and covered shipping back to me.all three of the k-bar Beckers have some small defects they are strong chopping monsters! I would like to see K-bar up
the QC,Becker knives deserve it!


RAT PACK #91
 
exidor said:
I would like to see K-bar up the QC,Becker knives deserve it!
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They will, or more likely, they have. Paul(toooj) is one of us(whether he wants to admit it or not :D) -- He's a knowledgable knife guy, an avid outdoorsman and an all around stand-up guy. And in my reckoning, he's no slouch of an engineer, either.

I Don't see the cosmetic blems as an issue at all. Ethan designs some great knives, but they're not meant to sit in a display case. The good folks at Kabar engineered out all the real problems(stress risers, etc.), put the knives into the hands of some ravenous Beckerheads and then dealt with the cosmetics.

Thank you, Ethan, Paul and Kabar, for putting out a quality US made product at very affordable prices. :thumbup:
 
My experience with Kabar tracks that of Ontario. They have so much in production that more gets by QC than say Spyderco or Benchmade. That said, I would say that I have gotten knives that were stepped or mis-ground, or not sharp. The ones that came dull were sharpened, the others were returned and replaced no questions asked. Ontario has refunded my shipping when I have asked them to do so. I have to say that I love my Beckers - and I feel as though Ka-Bar stands behind their product, as does Ethan.
 
Both Ethan and Paul are stand-up guys and, equally important, astute businessmen, too. They seem to have instituted a warrantee policy that — while not explicitly stated — seems to rival RAT in that, if it's a bad blade, they'll replace it. That not only shows confidence in their product, but is an incentive for them to keep the quality at a high level. Pretty amazing service at the price point of Becker knives.

Those who expect to get the fit and finish of a several hundred dollar custom knife at the price of a Becker are delusional, yet Beckers seem to come pretty close for a reasonably priced production knife. But that's just cosmetics; as far as function, I think they're outstanding. The overall quality of Becker knives, which are meant to be used (knives that work for a living), is right up there with knives costing many times as much.

Am I happy with Beckers? You bet! Will I buy more? I certainly will.
 
i have absolutely no problems with my beckers,they have all been great knives.who cares about a little blem here or there,you still get more than what you pay for.i
 
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