Ka-Bar Heavy Bowie-HELP!!

shawn79

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I'm considering buying a Ka-bar heavy bowie. I know they're made of 1088 carbon steel. However, I have yet to talk to anyone about the quality. How does it hold up to chopping, cutting, edge retention...etc. This will be used as a survival knife-so it's kind of a have-to-know situation.

Unrelated issue, I'm considering an RTAK II or BK9 if the Ka-bar gets bad reviews.
 
The K-bar heavy bowie is a good knife. It chops, splits cuts well. It is also very tough. I did a destruction test on it www.knifetests.com also did the Becker Bk 9 and I'm getting ready to do the Ontario RTAC 2.

The handle on the K-bar is fantastic. It's nice and big. Also the handle is very
tough. it dampens shock well so it's easy on your hand for extended chopping.

The 1085 Steel is very chip resistant. It dents instead of chipping out.

It's a lot o knife for the money. The sheath is okay, not great but okay.

The handle also makes a great fire starter in a survival situation. It will burn about 30 minutes in the rain.

Hope this helps a little.
 
I did a quick review of mine here:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=446766

It's a good chopper, very good cutter and the edge retention is good. Touching up the edge was also very quick on my sharpmaker. I personally think the sheath is a pile of poo (mine is too tight, touches the edge, has one too many straps imo, is flimsy, etc), but it does the job of carrying the knife so that may be fine with you. Take a look at my review for a little more depth.
 
How does that follow? Really.

I am with you Linton, reading what Noss and Ehh just said I would think the Ka-bar would be the conclusion to come too, just because the sheath is so/so doesnt make the performance of the knife lack.

I think the Bk-9 is a bit too brittle, the Ka-bar I think is thicker than the BK and The RTAK, which would make it better for prying. Just look at the test video and the review posted. I would say the Ka-bar is alot of knife for the cash, especially if you dont small cosmetic flaws. Both the BK and the RTAK should run you more than 50.
 
The BK-9 can be brittle. 0170-06C is a more complex alloy than 1088 and no one has ever accused Camillus of being consistent with their heat-treatment of the steel (for either theirselves or Cold Steel or other customers). Still, few people complain about theirs and they don't have to buy a new sheath. A Kabar Heavy Bowie initially costs less than a BK-9, but with an aftermarket sheath may cost more.

From what ehh and Noss4 are saying, the Kabar Heavy Bowie sounds like an incredible value and it's devoid of internet drama which is even more valuable if you "don't want to hear it."

Ka-Bar Heavy Bowie from knifecenter: $49.95
Video of Noss4 destroying such a knife to sate his curiosity and taste for the theatrical: free to view
Not being involved in a 10+ page flamewar involving tons of people not acting older than 10+ years old: Priceless
 
Ka-Bar Heavy Bowie from knifecenter: $49.95
Video of Noss4 destroying such a knife to sate his curiosity and taste for the theatrical: free to view
Not being involved in a 10+ page flamewar involving tons of people not acting older than 10+ years old: Priceless

:thumbup: Thats a good summation of my feelings:D
 
I've never held a BK9, though I've handled a BK7 in a store. Remember that most people (self included) don't have much love for the BK handles, which many find awkward, slippery, and uncomfortable. Hence people's inclination to drop another $20 or so for after-market micarta grips.

I have held, handled, and used a Ka-Bar 1277 (large "heavy" Bowie). The handle is comfortable, the knife is surprisingly lighter than expected, and I've given it some not-insubstantial abuse without any problems whatsoever. The sheath is functional, and though it's not what I'd design if I were going to wear the knife on my belt every day of my life, replacing it hasn't been any kind of urgency issue. With all sheaths that have leather components, in my dry climate, I like to soak the leather with mink oil and leather conditioner, to avoid having it dry out and crack if I leave it in my car (temps hereabouts inside a closed car will routinely vary from below freezing to 160 degrees F in the course of a year)--but, thus far, I've got to say that this knife has exceeded expectations, and seems to hold up much better than knives that have captured a lot of favorable attention on the forums.
 
I have a BK9 as well and although I have yet to use it, the handle is not great. The shape is ok for me, there isn't much grip, and just by tapping the blade, vibrations come through the handle very efficiently (not a good thing). The handle also feels cheap since it's plastic.

I'd personally pick the Ka-Bar Heavy Bowie, no matter how shoddy the sheath and fit and finish may be. Mine could have been a lemon anyways (and notice how I still have, and recommend it :thumbup: ).
 
Just to let everyone know, Kershaw's big chopper (I can never remember its name, outlander?, badlander?) works very well with a very comfortable handle. The Ontario Bowie Survival is another good 10" chopper. I own both of them, and they are very effective choppers. For the money, get an Ontario 12" camp machete. They really get the job done. If you want to pay more, get Ranger RD-9 or RTAK.
 
Let's not forget to mention the New Ranger Mach~Axe for Bigtime chopping in a 13" blade ;)
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Just to let everyone know, Kershaw's big chopper (I can never remember its name, outlander?, badlander?) works very well with a very comfortable handle. The Ontario Bowie Survival is another good 10" chopper. I own both of them, and they are very effective choppers. For the money, get an Ontario 12" camp machete. They really get the job done. If you want to pay more, get Ranger RD-9 or RTAK.
 
has any one taken the handle off of the Ka-bar 1277 ?
I just received two heavy Bowie's. I bought both with the intent to heavily modify them one will get a new kydex sheath and a slight handle reshaping with checking. The other I intend to strip, polish, cold blue, add a brass guard and elk antler handle and a tooled leather sheath. theres no reason to do this I just like to customize every thing. I was just wondering if any one knew how how much steel was under the rubber.
 
Post #2, above, was created by noss4 in the last couple of months. In it, he beat/burned the heck out of a Ka-Bar 1277. I haven't viewed it, but you might get a very good look at what the tang of a 1277 looks like under the kraton, by watching noss4's demolition of one.

I agree: the Ka-Bar 1277 seems to me to beg for modification into a truly kick-ass Bowie. It's quite inexpensive, compared to some of the other knives on offer out there. It uses real working steel. It seems lighter than some of the more-expensive bowies out there, and its edge geometry is such that you can actually cut with it pretty easily. For anyone who likes sharpened clip points, the 1277's long and relatively-narrowly-ground false edge looks like it would lend itself quite well to being turned into a long, nicely-shaped, and very sharp clip.
 
has any one taken the handle off of the Ka-bar 1277 ?
I just received two heavy Bowie's. I bought both with the intent to heavily modify them one will get a new kydex sheath and a slight handle reshaping with checking. The other I intend to strip, polish, cold blue, add a brass guard and elk antler handle and a tooled leather sheath. theres no reason to do this I just like to customize every thing. I was just wondering if any one knew how how much steel was under the rubber.

If you email me at my website I will be glade to send you a close up photo
of the tang. www.knifetests.com

The width is 0.620" length is 5.310" thickness is 0.240"
 
supper helpful. The dimensions that you gave tell me everything I need to know. plenty of metal to do anything I want on the elk antler handle. Found these 1277's new on e-bay for $39.99 and couldn't be any happier with the blade shape, steel, etc. thanks for the info. This is the first time I'm going in to a project and knowing what I'll find.
 
I choosed a HB from KBar because hardness was between 55 - 57 (normal to high rate consider a small chopper), steel was 1085 (middle between .5% to 1% carbon contenders), large handle, great price.

It came in perfect conditon!:thumbup:

Accidentially i chopped into real concrete and just get a cuople of small notches wich were away in a few minut4es using 200 grit stone.

Hard to find a reason for something much more expensive.

That means, you may consider a differntially hardened camp tramp or whatever you wish, but considering the price / performance ratio: Why should you?

A great knife.
 
I'm considering buying a Ka-bar heavy bowie. I know they're made of 1088 carbon steel.

The BK-9 can be brittle. 0170-06C is a more complex alloy than 1088 and no one has ever accused Camillus of being consistent with their heat-treatment of the steel (for either theirselves or Cold Steel or other customers).

Actually, according to an article in Blade, these Ka-Bar heavy bowies are indeed made of 0170-6C. (What's the other designation, yet? 52100B or something?) The company was calling them "1085 modified" when they came out. The "modifications" were actually the addition of the elements and percentages needed to transform 1085 into 0170-6C, as luck would have it.
 
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