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11" Falo (previous generation) with rosewood handle and heavy duty grind.

Question, Kailash Blades Kailash Blades , are all your edges of the convex type? Or are the performance, standard and heavy duty all different edge styles/shapes/geometries, etc.? I could not be prouder of my first khukuri!

Looks great!
The Performance Grind on my Ek Chirra is convex, I assume each grind has different geometry to optimize it for different uses.
 
Yep! All the edges are convex, with the peformance being thinner and elaner and the HD being fatter and stubbier. The bevel transition and upper grinds are specific to the knife model though. EG mk1, pensioner, mutiny blended transition. Ek chirra, Panawal non blended.
 
Yep! All the edges are convex, with the peformance being thinner and elaner and the HD being fatter and stubbier. The bevel transition and upper grinds are specific to the knife model though. EG mk1, pensioner, mutiny blended transition. Ek chirra, Panawal non blended.
That's really good to know. I was at first looking at Ek Chirra or Dui Chirra. But more I read, the more I lean 14" Mutiny or 13" MK1. I like the blended transition the most.
 
Check out this collection pic we got sent through by a happy customer. We're the Bhura on the right and the Spur on the left. It's great to be in such good company with so many other awesome knives!

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Wow- is it a special setting on your camera or are the colours very intense on these blades?
I haven't seen rosewood that red in some time. And the black of the forge finish sirupate is also very rich.
 
Wow- is it a special setting on your camera or are the colours very intense on these blades?
I haven't seen rosewood that red in some time. And the black of the forge finish sirupate is also very rich.
Samsung phones tend to saturate the colors a bit, especially with anything green. But, I can say the grain in the Mk1 is distinct and the forge black on the Sirupate is pleasingly dark. Here's a few more photos. I put some cardboard down on one for some color/saturation reference. I may use Photoshop for part of my dayjob but I promise there are no special settings or alterations done on my part.

 
Yeah the carboard really helps- the contrast and saturation does seem pretty true to life. Nice piece of woof there. cool to see the raw finish too- I don't often get HQ photos of finishes from the guys so it's good to be able to inspect some details :)
 
Yeah the carboard really helps- the contrast and saturation does seem pretty true to life. Nice piece of woof there. cool to see the raw finish too- I don't often get HQ photos of finishes from the guys so it's good to be able to inspect some details :)
Sorry for the flurry of responses. You can tell your guys they did an amazing job. I am very pleased with everything I've seen so far. I have some questions about the deep hammer marks but purely because I'm the inquisitive type.

If you or anyone on the forum wants any particular photos of finishes, measurements, etc., I'll be happy to either post them or send them somehow.
 
Nice! The team will be glad to hear.
We're currently experimenting with different raw finishes. Our falo has a full brut de forge finish which never touches a grinder, but the rest of our raw blades feature some grinding before quench which helps hit geometry and weight goals. Fullers need to be ground in currently so on such areas a brut de forge finish is not possible. On these blades we historically did some texturing marks with the back of the hammer. Now we are using a specially made texturing hammer which is giving better results but there's an element of personal taste at play here. For me the results on your sirupate are an improvement but I think they're a bit pronounced- I'd like to see them less deep (which will also make them smaller) and more numerous for a more even finish.
Take care,
Andrew and the team at Kailash
 
Nice! The team will be glad to hear.
We're currently experimenting with different raw finishes. Our falo has a full brut de forge finish which never touches a grinder, but the rest of our raw blades feature some grinding before quench which helps hit geometry and weight goals. Fullers need to be ground in currently so on such areas a brut de forge finish is not possible. On these blades we historically did some texturing marks with the back of the hammer. Now we are using a specially made texturing hammer which is giving better results but there's an element of personal taste at play here. For me the results on your sirupate are an improvement but I think they're a bit pronounced- I'd like to see them less deep (which will also make them smaller) and more numerous for a more even finish.
Take care,
Andrew and the team at Kailash
That was what I was curious about. The marks are quite deep and would be my only complaint so far if I had to have one.

You say they're texturing marks. Is there a purpose behind them? Funny enough, my first thought was how much material has to be removed to get a satin finish but it sounds like these marks are an extra step not actually involved in the forging process if I have the right of it.

Would it be possible to request lighter texturing or no texturing for future orders? I like the raw/forge black look on blades but admittedly, these are a bit much. Like you, I would prefer more shallow marks.
 
In my next videocall I'll be discussing the depth of these marks so hopefully all orders going forward will be about half as deep. If you look through the years you can see a lot of variation in how these have been achieved. Different smiths have different styles and preferences and it's been pretty loosely controlled historically.

There's no purpose to them- these are just aesthetic. An attempt to help create a characterful and somewhat consistent finish between blades. They're not inherent to the forging process on any blade apart from the falo. In future I would like for all raw blades to have the same finish as the falo, however this may require us to charge more for raw and also alter our weight targets for certain blades. Fullers will likely still need to be ground in, but we may be able to use custom fullering dies with some success. No texturing can absolutely be requested- the end result will have a fine, lightly scaled texture and potentially show some very coarse scratch marks from our roughest stone wheels.

Here's an example of a blade with very low texturing (very small gentle hammer marks). Note the grind scratches.
And a mutiny with very low texturing in the fuller. You can imagine that if you removed the nicks from the fuller here it would be a smooth uniform dark grey surface with visible grind scratches.

Take care,
Andrew and the team at Kailash
 
In my next videocall I'll be discussing the depth of these marks so hopefully all orders going forward will be about half as deep. If you look through the years you can see a lot of variation in how these have been achieved. Different smiths have different styles and preferences and it's been pretty loosely controlled historically.

There's no purpose to them- these are just aesthetic. An attempt to help create a characterful and somewhat consistent finish between blades. They're not inherent to the forging process on any blade apart from the falo. In future I would like for all raw blades to have the same finish as the falo, however this may require us to charge more for raw and also alter our weight targets for certain blades. Fullers will likely still need to be ground in, but we may be able to use custom fullering dies with some success. No texturing can absolutely be requested- the end result will have a fine, lightly scaled texture and potentially show some very coarse scratch marks from our roughest stone wheels.

Here's an example of a blade with very low texturing (very small gentle hammer marks). Note the grind scratches.
And a mutiny with very low texturing in the fuller. You can imagine that if you removed the nicks from the fuller here it would be a smooth uniform dark grey surface with visible grind scratches.

Take care,
Andrew and the team at Kailash
Just so long as my questions aren't mistaken for complaints. I'm always afraid they come off like that. There's a photo of a full tang Sirupate on FB that helped change my mind for this order.

Correct me if I'm wrong but roughing up the metal through grinding before treating would likely help get a deeper black finish wouldn't it?
 
Not at all. We welcome all feedback, especially more detailed stuff on tastes or preference.
The alternative to grinding before quenching is leaving it as forged before quenching. The as forged finish (as seen on falo) has a lot of very fine pits, craters, crackle etc and is very rough like sandpaper. In comparison the grinding smooths this out and makes it more uniform. It definitely gives a smoother more uniform tone though.
 
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