Karambit Maybe it's a bad choice for cold weather climate

Originally posted by Cross_Steel2
Your opinion really doesn't matter to me. If Tourist has something to take up with me I'm sure he's capable of doing it. I know that you and Phil were always appointed by your Elementary School teachers to write down names on the board and that affected you for life.

My, my. Somebody morphed into a hostile child fairly quickly.

Besides that Tourist comments go against everthing on www.themartialist.com.

No, they don't -- unless, of course, you're too stupid to understand what you've read so far in this thread.
 
Originally posted by Sharp Phil
My, my. Somebody morphed into a hostile child fairly quickly.



No, they don't -- unless, of course, you're too stupid to understand what you've read so far in this thread.

Hey Phil your whole site is about situational prepardness and self-defense. Your making your money/getting attention from that. Besides you really like the rhetoric. OK I'll pull out my crystall ball "Phil You'll never be in a knife fight. Neither will anyone else on this board." That sure does sound like a broad statement. Just carry your leatherman from now on.

At least now you now can devote your efforts to playing Baldur's Gate, dreaming up D&D quests, and letting your wife support you before she makes you get a real job.

An Phil I started this thread and you're the one that keeps pulling it off topic. Please call your doctor and have him double your medication.
 
Originally posted by Cross_Steel2


At least now you now can devote your efforts to playing Baldur's Gate, dreaming up D&D quests, and letting your wife support you before she makes you get a real job.


Dude, you're getting way too nasty with this, perhaps you should slow down.


Now on to matters of real importance,

If the Thing and the Hulk were fighting in a steel-cage death match, and they were both armed with kerambits, who would win:)?
 
I thought that these kind of threads were behind us.

I feel that SD with blades in cold weather climates was a good topic, and specifically addressing the Kerambit is also interesting.

There have been some good posts. And i like West Side story.

Didnt Mick Strider Says something like, never attack an oponent where he is armoured with clothing or real body armour, and instead go for the face and neck, for a Central Nervous system shutdown? One reason being it was the fastest way to disable someone and the other being it is hard to punch through clothing?

I understand how the forward/saber grip could be used to atttack unarmoured parts, but wasnt the reverse grip intended to attack the bowels of a person? I suppose you could go for the groin area since a good hit there is likely to cause someone to bleed out rather quickly.

Anyone have a kerambit and a heavy jacket and is willing to Try it? (not on themselves or another person but a target)

I also feel that all smaller knives are at a greater disadvantage during the colder parts of the year due to clothing, but due to clothing you could conceal a larger blade if you were so inclined.

And knives are not the best SD choice, this is a well estamblished fact, if someone is just trying to beat you up, not kill you pepper spray would be better or a stick. And a good .40 jhp is better for those that are trying to kill you.

I can read, most of the time i cannot spell, but my reading comprehension is quite good, and there was some unnecessary attitude here.

I think that we should all try to be more polite with each other and more open minded towards ideas that may conflict with our own beliefs.
 
When wearing gloves thick enough to impede the use of the ring on the kerambit, just hold the knife as you would any folder thats opened. The ring does NOT have to be used unless you are going to go from retracted to extended in reverse grip.

Improvise and overcome.

Brownie
 
Originally posted by elegua23
Besides, I don't know how to say, "If your blade be as sharp as your tongue, varlet, I'd gladly meet you at dawn, behind the courtyard at St. Katherine's," in Ebonics.

The reason I like these threads is because they're so enlightening on so many levels. Not only do I learn some real useful info on knife handling (this is Good), I also learn to discern criminal types from non-criminal types. So let me get this stright, a would be attacker will be dressed in hip-hop gear and speak in ebonics. so...if I extrapolate from this, are you [cross steel2 & elegua]saying my attacker would be black? Good now I know who to keep my eye on :rolleyes: .

Originally posted by S.C.
sometimes i'm embarrassed that i share this hobby with some people.

I agree.

I'm not in any way denying the technical validity of this thread, I just think you two are watching too many episodes of COPS or you live in a very small world. In either case if ignorance is bliss, you two must be the happiest mofos on the planet. edited to remove vulgarity
 
Hey Phil your whole site is about situational prepardness and self-defense.

It certainly is. That is not incompatible with informing you, quite accurately, that your chances of getting into a knife-on-knife duel with someone are low. "Tourist's" post also included some advice on situational preparedness; that, too, is compatible with the 'zine -- not contradictory.

Your making your money/getting attention from that.

Someone notify my accountant. Oh, wait, I'm my accountant.

Besides you really like the rhetoric.

I'm sure someone like you, who flies off the handles and becomes enraged and hostile when he does not comprehend what he has read, would find the words he now confronts an almost insurmountable rhetorical barrier. Endeavor to persevere.

OK I'll pull out my crystall ball "Phil You'll never be in a knife fight. Neither will anyone else on this board."

You'd be right more often than you'd be wrong, fortunately for all of us. But then, most of us will never have our homes burned to the ground, either, but almost all of us buy insurance against just that very possibility. The fact that the chances are low does not mean one should not be prepared for them.

Originally written by Kelly McCann:
"Simply put, you must pay attention to your personal security. Failure to do so may result in total tragedy for you or your family. If you don't pay at least nominal attention to your personal security, then you deserve what comes your way.

"The crime rate right now (1999) is lower than it's been since the mid 1960s. However, the incidence of violence in those crimes is much higher -- less crime, more violence. The FBI has amassed statistics that tell us a person generally stands a six percent chance in his or her lifetime of being victimized in some way. Of course, all statistics are capable of manipulation and don't normally reflect the reality of any given situation. The fact is that if your experience in that six percent includes a stabbing which results in your requiring a colostomy, that mere six percent becomes pretty life altering. If it includes a nonconfrontational property crime -- your mailbox gets destroyed by vandals, for example -- you got off easy.

"This is not melodramatic, just truthful, prudent, and appropriately concerned."

Mr. McCann rightly points out that crime is low and that many crimes are quite benign -- yet the fact that the chance remains extant justifies preparation for them. Does this alter the fact that most of us will never engage in duels? Not at all.

At least now you now can devote your efforts to playing Baldur's Gate, dreaming up D&D quests, and letting your wife support you before she makes you get a real job.

My, you are an angry fellow, aren't you? From where does this hostility stem? Do you always become so upset whenever someone disagrees with you? Are you always so quick to start throwing insults when you don't get the answers you want?

I'd say you have a lot of growing up to do before you start worrying about defending yourself with a knife. Someone with your attitude is out looking for trouble and bound to find it as a result.

An Phil I started this thread and you're the one that keeps pulling it off topic. Please call your doctor and have him double your medication.

I think you're projecting, friend. You're overdue for your tranquilizers.
 
Originally posted by elegua23
T Also, I might want to mention that if said alleged gang banger were steppin' to you, Snoop, they'd be extending themselves...and the hands and wrists are under-armored relative to the rest of his gear.

Thats unless those wrists are bedecked with reams of sparkling bling-bling.

btw - are we talking about how to defend against a particular ethnic group in this thread, or is this a style of dress shared by many?
 
Originally posted by elegua23
Also, I might want to mention that if said alleged gang banger were steppin' to you, Snoop, they'd be extending themselves...and the hands and wrists are under-armored relative to the rest of his gear.



fo sheezy. ;)








:p
 
The reason I like these threads is because they're so enlightening on so many levels. Not only do I learn some real useful info on knife handling (this is Good), I also learn to discern criminal types from non-criminal types. So let me get this stright, a would be attacker will be dressed in hip-hop gear and speak in ebonics. so...if I extrapolate from this, are you [cross steel2 & elegua]saying my attacker would be black? Good now I know who to keep my eye on .

Marcelu, are you trying to be an absolute prick, or were you just one of the kids that took the small bus to school? I think it would be a good time for you to learn that some people don't need the little comic book emoticon illustrations to understand when someone's playing with the ridiculous nature that has passed in and out of the thread. Oh, and maybe you might want to check your own assumptions of race, as I have little doubt you've already made a mental picture of my skin color...oh screw this, your one little post is filled with so many assumptions that I could write a book. What a joke, it's too bad boring people to death isn't an international crime, we might be spared your attempted mastery at all that is trite.
 
i don't know what posts are sarcastic anymore. why isn't this thread in practical tactical or whine and cheese?
 
Originally posted by Boink

btw - are we talking about how to defend against a particular ethnic group in this thread, or is this a style of dress shared by many?

Let me say NO on any racist tones on this thread. The type of dress we're talking about is perpetuated by modern POP (Gansta rapper) culture. Young hoodlems of all skin colors like this type of clothing. Two distant cousins of mine are meth dealers one white and the other "mostly hispanic". This is the way they dress. "Race" is not a factor in any way. This clothing style has been popular since the 1980's. In ways I've listed the fashion is dictated by effectiveness on the street.
 
Originally posted by Sharp Phil


I'm sure someone like you, who flies off the handles and becomes enraged and hostile when he does not comprehend what he has read, would find the words he now confronts an almost insurmountable rhetorical barrier. Endeavor to persevere.



My, you are an angry fellow, aren't you? From where does this hostility stem? Do you always become so upset whenever someone disagrees with you? Are you always so quick to start throwing insults when you don't get the answers you want?

I'd say you have a lot of growing up to do before you start worrying about defending yourself with a knife. Someone with your attitude is out looking for trouble and bound to find it as a result.



I think you're projecting, friend. You're overdue for your tranquilizers.

Hey Sigmund Fraud please talk about the knives and quit hijacking this thread, I know you like attention. You open yourself up to verbal attacks by wanting attention. You have no idea of my history past or present so you really aren't qualified to make your assumptions. What people do I hang around that I would need a blade to defend myself? What weapons do I carry on a daily basis? How am I dressed? Does your Palantir tell you this? You've been told your whole life how smart you are that you assume everything. Forums have a gift of anonimity. Besides aren't you an unemployed accountant?

Emerson (and others) market their blades as an offensive/defensive. No where does he make any reference to it being utility. I missed the videos where Mr. Emerson was showing how fast a receiving clerk could use his blades to open boxes. All his targets were human. As Tourist I'm sure could atest to this knife is designed with one primary purpose. Don't go popping off about this and that. Answer the questionsas presented.

My questions about the blades effectiveness(for it's primary purpose) on cold weather clothing are valid.

Thread hijacking has filled up way to much of this post.
 
Hey Sigmund Fraud please talk about the knives and quit hijacking this thread, I know you like attention.

You're the one who keeps dragging the thread off-topic with pointless hostility. If you'd simply return to topic instead of turning into some sort of impotent, dyslexic Keyboard Hulk, that would pretty much end the sideline discussion. I originally responded to this thread simply because I thought you had misinterpreted "Tourist's" comments, thinking I could prevent a pointlessly inflammatory exchange. You, however, seem to have no purpose in life other than to get angry over nothing.

You open yourself up to verbal attacks by wanting attention.

Your obsession with the "attention" afforded others, coupled with your repeated demands to have your thread answered in the manner you wish it answered, point to profound insecurity on your part. Is that the problem? Are you upset that others do not provide you with the attention and validation you seek? It would explain why you become so upset when you are denied this.

You have no idea of my history past or present so you really aren't qualified to make your assumptions.

Your posts point to your personality, or at least to the part of it you express online. That personality is oversensitive, easily offended, childish, and hostile out of all proportion to the situation. If that isn't a formula for someone who shouldn't be carrying a knife, I don't know what is.

What people do I hang around that I would need a blade to defend myself? What weapons do I carry on a daily basis? How am I dressed? Does your Palantir tell you this?

You're probably the sort that has his very own computer in his bedroom, if he has generous parents. I couldn't speculate as to your other habits, but hopefully you're not in a position to hurt yourself or anyone else.

You've been told your whole life how smart you are that you assume everything.

Careful. Your sense of inferiority is showing. If it bothers you that others are more intelligent, I would recommend focusing on bettering yourself, rather than lashing out at those who have accomplished more than you have.

Forums have a gift of anonimity. Besides aren't you an unemployed accountant?

This would come as something of a surprise to my boss, who seems rather insistent on me showing up to work Monday.

Emerson (and others) market their blades as an offensive/defensive. No where does he make any reference to it being utility.

You haven't been paying attention, have you? Emerson's slogan is, "The Number 1 Hard Use Knives in the World." "Hard Use" implies all manner of utility chores, up to and including field abuse (in addition to their tactical applications). But then, nobody has denied either application takes place. I think you're just terribly offended that "Tourist" presumed to tell you that you're not Captain Adventure. I realize it is a terribly upsetting thing to have your fantasies questioned, but in time I'm sure you'll cope.

Don't go popping off about this and that. Answer the questionsas presented.

My dear boy, by your own curious brand of illogic, posting a thread is looking for attention -- which would mean you're opening yourself to criticism every time you start such a thread. If you can't bear to have your premises checked, online discussion will only leave you in the future as it has left you in the present: foaming at the mouth in front of your monitor, wondering why nobody grants you the respect for which you seem so desperate.

My questions about the blades effectiveness(for it's primary purpose) on cold weather clothing are valid.

True. We could have been discussing those quesitons if you hadn't started having kittens the second you got responses you did not like.

Thread hijacking has filled up way to much of this post.

True, again. Perhaps it's time you grew up; maybe then the thread will remain on topic.
 
Well Phil, you are fortunate if your "Boss" pays you to sit there and jaw with me.

Since you can develope a whole psychological profile about someone from a few posts you should be working for the NSA. With your capabilbites after after reading Al Quiada's email you would place the exact location of Osama as Luchenback, Texas disguised as a redneck with a Old Milwalkee T-shirt drinking coffee at the waffle house.

You want to know something Phil, it's not gratifying to me to see all the effort you're putting behind this. Maybe humorous but not gratifying.
 
Let me save Phil the trouble of posting his next reply. It will go like, It's not too hard to figure me out from my posts and he really isn't putting that much effort into these posts on a little man like me blah, blah, blah for about 5 paragraphs.

I will shoot out a response.

Oh I forgot about you being William Shakespear and being able to write "anything". And how Phil is Mr. "Sonnet on Demand". I'll kick that out to him and he surely can't let that go by.

Now Phil will respond to this by saying I'm the "know it all". He'll throw out a few more words about imaturity blah blah blah for about 16 paragraphs.

But hey I'm not worried about this remember beacause of Phil's master intellect he has not only deduced the exact location of Osama but has also figured out I'm a 13 year old kid playing G.I. Joes and have my own computer in my room. If Phil's boss wants to pay him for rhetoric and not bean counting I'm sure he gets his money's worth.

Till next time.
 
Originally posted by bob bowie

If the Thing and the Hulk were fighting in a steel-cage death match, and they were both armed with kerambits, who would win:)?

very close, but i think it would be the hulk!!! think of it this way....

the hulks a big lou ferino kinda guy, so he has lots of reach, and hes big and strong too!!! and plus, according to the new hulk movie he can leap for miles.....somehow... so id say the hulk.
 
Originally posted by Cross_Steel2
Let me save Phil the trouble of posting his next reply. It will go like, It's not too hard to figure me out from my posts and he really isn't putting that much effort into these posts on a little man like me blah, blah, blah for about 5 paragraphs.

I will shoot out a response.

Oh I forgot about you being William Shakespear and being able to write "anything". And how Phil is Mr. "Sonnet on Demand". I'll kick that out to him and he surely can't let that go by.

Now Phil will respond to this by saying I'm the "know it all". He'll throw out a few more words about imaturity blah blah blah for about 16 paragraphs.

But hey I'm not worried about this remember beacause of Phil's master intellect he has not only deduced the exact location of Osama but has also figured out I'm a 13 year old kid playing G.I. Joes and have my own computer in my room. If Phil's boss wants to pay him for rhetoric and not bean counting I'm sure he gets his money's worth.

maybe we can get a banning rally started.... im tired of this guy allready
Till next time.
 
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