Katrina changed your BoB philosophy?

I'm wondering about adding bicycles to the equation...

Cars bumper to bumper on all roads. Grid locked and out of gas.

Unless you have planned to be able to hike out, your going to leave a bunch of gear behind. A bike would let you get farther than by foot.

I assume you and bike would soon be seperated though as stranded folks look at you going by making distance.

I'm looking at routes that are less direct and less known to get out of the city, I just wonder how far is far enough... where to stop.

What do yall think?
 
Ebbtide said:
Last plane trip at night was from Charleston WV to Pittsburg to NYC.
Lots of lights under us the whole trip.

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Ebb, Been to Pitt many times by plane. Live in Chas Wv, next to no lights while over WV, other places yeah.
 
Hotrod, bicycles would be a huge asset, I would think. They can fit in or on any vehicle if you have the right accessories. They give you an additional option when your vehicle breaks down, runs out of gas, gets stuck in mud or gridlocked in a stand-still traffic jam that continues for miles up the road.

Regarding the latter scenario, suppose you and your wife are stuck trying to evacuate an area, and the road you're on is backed up for miles and miles, and the traffic has been at a stand-still for hours now--not even a crawl. People here and there are already running out of gas just sitting still, letting their engines run at idle. Tempers are flaring. Violence seems impending. Panic is setting in as people start to get desperate. You and wife have the vehicle loaded down with supplies, food, water, clothes and valuables (guns, photo albums, jewelry, your KNIFE COLLECTION you've spent untold time & money on, etc.). Sooner or later, EVERYONE (including you) will be out of gas, but tempers will have progressed into fights, looting and large scale pandemonium on the road long before then, and you don't want to be in the middle of it.

You can leave on the bikes, but you'd be forced to leave most of your supplies, valuables, and other belongings behind (to be looted, for certain; there's no coming back for it later). You could distance yourselves from the overcrowded roads but how many days could you go without your supplies that you had to leave behind in the vehicle? Or you could stay with your vehicle and try to guard it, your belongings, and yourselves from your fellow travellers (which will mean you and your wife/gf taking shifts when night falls, and each day will be more desperate and dangerous than the one before)...and to what end? In the hopes that traffic will eventually begin moving again, and that the roads will soon clear up? Or that maybe FEMA will send fuel trucks up and down the roads to refuel people's tanks?

Obviously, the reason for the evacuation is usuall going to be time critical, such as a nearby nuclear plant reactor leak, or a hurricane, in which case you know time is against you.
 
I'm pro bike as a evac vehicle when all else fails. In fact, I just recently picked up a Mongoose mtn. bike at a yard sale, replaced a wheel and some bearings and have myself a pretty good getaway peddler. Going to find one for the wife and then fix em up so they can haul some gear and provisions.
 
I've been doing some more thinking (Thanks for starting up my brain yall...)

I am beginning to wonder about the "Value" of all this junk that we all build up. How many knives do you need, will you take your best frying pan... is that tool box loaded down with stuff you dont use but once every 10 years going with you?

Perhaps I need to reconsider the settling down, and keep the thought process in a more nomadic mindset.

A question one might ask: Is it worth taking with me if I have to leave? Is it worth buying/storing if your just going to lose it?

I feel myself being elevated to a new high point in cheap-skateness. :D
 
Hotrod, I'm of the mind that if you keep your "supplys" up you can pick and choose from your supplys as the emergency dictates.

Winter,fire,flood,earthquake,etc.

You never know what , when , why or , if , you're going to need something.
 
I'm a sucker for sales... Double up on wrenches/sockets and such, but if I'm evacuating the area I'd have a hard time figuring on taking my box (Wouldnt fit in the car.)

Also wouldnt be taking computer, TV, furniture... all the expensive stuff would be left. I'm more saying that if I'm comfortable leaving it, what else am I comfortable leaving. If I'm comfortable leaving it... am I comfortable living without it more of the time than not?

I guess I'm more thinking about after the fact, how much stuff would you be crying over. In the same breath, how much stuff will you be trying to cram into a car? How much would you be trying to pack out?

:confused:

If you've got a knife collection, 12 different camp stoves and a plethora of sleeping bags... just speaking survivalist stuff, how tempted would you be to grab them all and toss them in the car to evacuate? Is it worth taking all that? If it isnt, if you cant put it to use... why have it before the storm or emergency?

I think my new motto is going to be: Whatever gets the job done. No antiquities, collectibles need apply unless they do it better. If expensive does it better than cheap, it better earn its keep. The more uses and less space it takes up the better!

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In the same breath, the oposite being staying put... how long, what would you need duplicates of to live comfortably? How close to merely surviving are you willing to go... :confused:

(Forgive me for posting this in question form, it is more working out my own thoughts than anything... :D )
 
Several things have changed my philosophy recently. While a katrina style event is unlikely here in the UK it does illustrate the fact that governments just cant cope with catastrophic events immediately. I live in a place where its unlikely I would have to evacuate my home (about 400 ft above sea level!) but I have increased my food store and been more careful about maintaining my water store.

I also think if bird flu turns into human flu and as many people die as is predicted there could be significant civil unrest.

In addition to this the recent bombings in London have reinforced the fact I could be stuck in the middle of a city with nothing but what I'm carrying at the time, possibly injured underground in a burning train. I dont work in the middle of a city but do have to travel there regularly so Im working on a BOB for that scenario too.

A bike is a good idea if you can keep away from people but I dont think you would get far if you were trying to ride through stationary traffic like they do ont he end of that film armageddon. Someone would shove you off and steal your bike. (like the car in war of the worlds!) Another thing to consider, you cant carry as much stuff on a bike as you can by foot, or defend yourself from the hoardes!
 
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