kayaking gun

There you go.

Watch that YouTube video above, and make sure you practice whipping that thing out of the sack from wherever it'll be on the kayak. Without dropping the paddle or losing your balance.

Or, don't get too close to shore.

Oh, and post some good pics here when you get back!:thumbup:
 
that guy was sure on the ball wasnt he. i question how i would have fared in the same situation.
 
maclaren27 said:
sorry about that. i am going to south alaska in salt water around some bays. i think i will take a remingtion 870 with med. length barrel and this grip.http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/SHT404-1.html
i will use 00buck and keep it in a dry sack.
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Dude...I use to live in southeast Alaska. I had a brown bear swim the channel right in front of my boat once. You need a handgun, becasue you need something that will be on you at all times.

So, my choice would be the Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan, in .454 Casul. And maybe back that up with a shotgun...

I have a couple Super Redhawks with 7.5" barrels, but they are kind of unweildy in an emergency. With the Alaskan, you are giving up some velocity with the short barrel, but you are going to be better able to get it into action quickly.....
 
forgot to say i wont be close to the shore until i paddle in. chances are i wont shoot any thing on the water right?

did not see the post before this post when i posted this.
 
maclaren27 said:
forgot to say i wont be close to the shore until i paddle in. chances are i wont shoot any thing on the water right?
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Right. Except, watch the video! The bear came into the water! The guy had to shoot while on the water to repel the bear! He shot into the water while on his boat, with only a few seconds to react!

Nobody is suggesting that you will somehow be water-hunting, but we're all suggesting that in SE Alaska, you may indeed be faced with a situation where you need access to a firearm while on the water.

You keep on asking if we agree that you're not going to shoot anything on/in the water--but we keep on saying, watch the video.
 
Putting that "stock" set on that 870 is, to be quite blunt, the mark of a raving amateur.

If that statement puzzles you, go buy one and shoot a slug or buckshot at a 25 yd target in that configuration to find out why.

In that location, I'd go with a Glock Model 20 in 10mm. I'd load my ammo to original specs or buy some 180's or 200 grain loads from Doubletap Ammo.

I'd also go for an AR-7 or Springfield M-6 to forage with, if that's a realistic possiblity.

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Good gun choice terrible stock choice.

Then again, you seem to already have your mind made up. Why even ask the question? Buy what you're going to buy and I hope you have a safe trip.
 
Have a safe trip. I would take a short barreled handgun though also. My choice would be the Ruger Alaskan in 480 Ruger. But they are hard to find these days. Take a bandaleer type holster with you that supports the gun. Wear it if you start seeing a lot of bear or bear sign where you might be camping. I have a lot of respect for an animal that can swat me like a bug.
 
i havent really made up my mind it is just one thing i thought of to see what kind of impuit i would get. sorry i havent really made this clear but i will be traveling fairly far off land (to kayaking standards) not nearly as close as the people in the video were.i know i will need to go inland some time when i do i will be careful. also dont think i am not considering your ideas because i am. when it comes to it i probly take a hand gun i just want to make shure i getas much puntch as possable (why i was so consistant on the shotgun and still wondering would a diffrent grip would help)
 
maclaren27 said:
i havent really made up my mind it is just one thing i thought of to see what kind of impuit i would get. sorry i havent really made this clear but i will be traveling fairly far off land (to kayaking standards) not nearly as close as the people in the video were.i know i will need to go inland some time when i do i will be careful. also dont think i am not considering your ideas because i am. when it comes to it i probly take a hand gun i just want to make shure i getas much puntch as possable (why i was so consistant on the shotgun and still wondering would a diffrent grip would help)
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Your posts have been difficult to figure out what you're really saying. At least they are to me.

What is "fairly far off land" to you ?

Others have asked what your gun experience and skill level is (or isn't) as that will impact the choices, but you seem to be avoiding that one.

There are more questions, but if I wanted to pull this many teeth, I woulda been a dentist !

I hope you have a safe trip.
 
I took my aforementioned Winchester Defender and put pistol grips on it a few years ago--it hurt like h*ll! Even with reduced recoil loads, it hurt.

Shotguns are shoulder arms, and work a lot better that way, IMHO.

If you can swing it take both--a stainless or polymer handgun in .44 Mag or 10mm say, that you wear constantly, for the surprises. That way, you could pack in the wrapped up and protected shotgun or other short rifle to back you up for the real emergencies on land, if you get stuck or attacked.

But, good point on your skill level/experience. If you're not used to it, a .44 or 10 will be a surprise also! Don't go anywhere without practicing first.

Just some thoughts.
 
sorry i am tierd and being verry spotty so forget what i said in my last post.

i have not had much gun experence. because, for the most part what i was looking for is some thing for protection on land but is easably stoable i wanted a shotgun with a folding stock or some thing that will keep it short. i will not have much acces to the inside of the kayak because of the spray skirt on the kayak anay way, so immadeat protection such as a hand gun, is not verry possablefor me. this is not a huge problen to me because i will be paddling about 200 yards of land.

some of you may have some more questions so please ask them so i can answer them.
 
I'll post this as a FWIW...it will be blown away and not taken seriously...anyway...stay away from the pistol grip only set up on your 870. It is a shoulder fired weapon and in order to safely manipulate, control and aim you need a stock...if you want a pistol grip along with the full stock fine but the pistol grip alone is just bogus hollywood movie crap.

I had one customer from "New York City" once fly across the country to train with me for a private tuitoral. When he showed up to my business he had one fo those set ups. I argued with him for 30 minutes but he was "told by a gun store owner" (who had zero training or tactical experince) this was the 'way to go' - besides the customer saw them used on TV. There I was stuck - this guy insisted on using this shotgun for him and his wife. So, I made the mistake of caving in and allowing him to do so. 20 minutes later I got out the school's 870 because the wife said it was dangerous and she wouldn't use it anymore (smart women) and then 15 minutes & one broken nose later the husband came to the same conclusion. I ended up selling the stock off of the schools 870 and throwing away the pistol grip. That was 20 years ago but it is a lesson burnt into my "lesson's learned" data bank. Never again - I don't care how good the gig is or how forceful the customer. Those things are a nightmare and with buck shot or slugs they are dangerious! Yea, that stock looks cool, and has some sex appeal and it screams "compact and practical"...but it has no absolutely no practical application in the potential fight of your life amigo. I work with the military and law enforcement and I've never seen any of their shotguns equipped with those and when I ask their armorer's why they don't offer them I get a "go pound sand" retort. But, what the heck do I know?
 
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