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Kershaw/Ken Onion LEEK (pics)

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Know Your Onions -

Kershaw/Ken Onion Leek (a review)

I had a Kershaw Ken Onion Vapor since June/2001 and liked its size, form, shape and looks a lot - I particularly like the very strong frame-lock for a knife of basically "budget" price.

I also had various Speed-Safe assisted opening knives including the Black Chive and Scallion - both of which were fast, elegant, and in the case of the Black Chive - very cute.

So for a while I thought that a Vapor sized knife with frame-lock would be great, if it only had the Speed-Safe assisted opening.......

... and I missed it.

The Kershaw/Ken Onion Leek was just what I was waiting for -
it actually won the Blade Show overall Knife of the Year last year - 2002.

Once I knew about the Leek, I hastened to acquire one.

It arrived 5 days ago and I have since been handling it, and here are some of my observations.

Materials -

It is of all stainless steel construction blade of 440A, and handles of 410 - it is a frame-lock - part of the handle forms the lock - so there is the entire thickness, hence strength of the handle material forming the locking block (as opposed to a separate liner).

Dimensions and Weight -

The measurements are 4" closed, 7" open, blade length and cutting edge 3" - so it feels nice and right-sized for me - the handle fits nicely and the bead-blast matte finish is particularly fine/smooth. All the handle's edges are nicely rounded/bevelled.

Its weight is spec'd at 3.1oz whereas the same sized Vapor is heavier at 3.25oz - despite of the Vapor's numerous drilled lightening holes in the handle.

Why is that?

On closer examination one sees that the Leek uses a just perceptibly thinner blade stock (@ 5/64" (~0.078") vs. the 0.10" of the Vapor). Yet overall the thickness of the knives not counting the pocket clips are virtually the same.

The thinner blade is probably used to accomodate the Speed-Safe assisted opening mechanism, as well as probably offering an overall lighter blade for faster Speed-Safe activation.

Knives Open
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Knives Closed
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Blade -

The blade shape is has a very shallow belly - and at first sight looks almost like a straight edge - but there is a slight curvature - overall it is fairly narrow somewhat symmetrical and almost a "stilleto"/spear point.

It is a hollow-grind - and does the almost unforgivable thickening toward the edge.

But surprisingly did very well on my minimal test cutting -

Using some very strong polypropylene string - I made a loop holding lightly between the thumb and index finger and the other end between the index and middle finger and did two types of cut -

the first is the more obvious pushing the edge from tip toward the heel - the Leek did very well on this -subjectively it seemed the best here - against a large BG-42 Sebenza, David Boye BDS lockback, and BDC (colbalt) lockback, BDS 2" drop-edge fixed blade, Hendrix Model 11 semi-skinner ATS-34 fixed blade, the Kershaw Vapor and my EDC SAK(surprisingly the Sebenza and the SAK seem the worst here where once both blades slid over the string and pushing it out from my middle/index finger hold).

The other cut was pulling from heel to tip - here the Sebenza was really good and the Leek was in the middle bunch - although none did badly - except for the Vapor which had serrations and although it did cut it felt "rough" and saw-like.

How about cuting through things? The Leek manage to cut uncooked steak and Snickers bar really well - in fact seemed better than my most used Chicago Cutlery boning/utility knife (62S) - the materials did not seem to "stick" - perhaps it was the hollow-grind that actually helped?

I know that none of these "tests" give any indication of edge retention - but merely show how sharp the Leek was initially.

440A is not generally regarded as a top "premium" or "best" stainless steel - it is probably somewhat middle of the road - ie: a reasonable stainless steel that's very rust resistant.

Action -

The Speed-Safe assisted opening is fast - perhaps not as fast as the much smaller Chive, or Scallion - but it's marginal - it feels and seems fast.

One of the great features of the latest series of Kershaw/Ken Onion Speed-Safe knives is the Index-Open - which kind of looks like a trigger that protudes from the back of the knife when closed - using the index finger to press/pull back on this overcomes the initial resistance of the mechanism - thereby activating the torsion spring bar to make the blade open. When the knife is open that Index-Open acts as a finger guard. Very clever and works very well.

Index Open
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The knife also has ambidextrous opening thumb-studs - but although I can work this fairly well - since I have used Speed-Safe knives since they first came out some 3 years ago - I find that the thumb-stud requires a slightly modified technique when compared to a straight unassisted/manual liner or frame lock, and may not suit everyone.

To open one has to push the stud outwards - away from the handle - and when the blade starts to open - get the thumb out of the way - it's not as complex, or difficult as it sounds - but it is not the same as opening a manual liner lock......

But it is different enough, that in the early days Kershaw demo knives at first had a plastic guard covering the blade toward the heel, and later had UNsharpened blades, because some people did not get their thumbs out of the way fast enough, or used the "follow through" as if opening an unassisted/manual liner lock, and have nicked themselves.

So why the thumnb-studs - when the Index-Open works so well? - is this a case of "belt and braces/suspenders"?

No..... the ambidextrous thumb-studs are actually the Stop-bar to stop the blade against the handle.

If one examines the knife open - one can see that the thumb-studs are flush/hard against the handle and there is no stop-bar on the back of the handle that stops the blade's back heel - as in a traditional unassisted/manual liner or frame-lock.

Stop Bar/Pin
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Lock -

As already mentioned the Leek is a frame-lock like the Vapor or the Chive (or the Chris Reeve's Sebenza - the originator), whereas the Scallion and other Speed-Safe knives are liner-locks. I really like frame-locks for their simple elegance and inherent strength.

The Leek's lock only covers about 1/3 the blade width - I prefer ones that cover over 1/2 the width for safety reasons - whereas I do understand there are those that prefer the lesser - because it allows more room for wear.

Locks
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Either way I tested the knife by having it open and hitting the back of the blade against wood to see if it would fail under stress (obviously keeping my fingers out of the way in case the lock fails). Under pretty hard knocks the frame-lock gave no hint of failing - even though I opened the blade using the speed-safe only, and did not try to further engage the lock more.

Safety -

Like the Chives and Scallions there is a Tip Safety lock that blocks the tip and prevents the blade from opening. It is merely a "bar" with a Phillips screw head that affords some purchase so that it can be slid along a slot to block the blade's tip. At first the safety was a bit stiff and required me to use a firm push to disengage it - but after some working it became fairly smooth that I can now engage or disengage the safety with either my pinky or ring finger of my right hand before I use the index finger to activate the Index-Open.

Safety
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This is a nice addition to build confidence that the knife will not open accidentally when being carried and especially doing strenuous activity.

However I prefer the safety block on the Kershaw-Onion Boa - which is on the back of the handle blocking the Index-Open - although I have not used this in the flesh it seems to be in a better position and easier to use than the tip safety.

I tried to find ways to "accidentally" open the blade - by doing things like dropping the knife from about 3.5 feet onto carpet (didn't wish to damage the knife) or onto folded newspaper - I tried to orient the knife so that it would land on the Index-Open when it failed to open from the other drops - even when it managed to land on the Index-Open it did not open.

I also tried holding the knife by the butt/tail-end of the handle and banged the Index-Open against a paper pad on a counter top - I hit the paper hard enough to leave dent imprints on the paper - but could not open the blade that way either.

I like the knife so much that it is my at home EDC carry - but I do not use the safety - it sounds "risky" but I am pretty confident that the knife will not open even under shock - of course if I intend to jump about then I would definitely engage the safety.

Catalog -

I must commend Kershaw Knives on producing a very attractive and informative 2003-4 catalog. I particularly liked the illutrations and explanations on how the Speed-Safe mechanism worked.

Catalog Page
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Legality -
or is Speed-Safe a Switch-blade?

This is what the Kershaw catalog says:

QUOTE:
There are many features of Speed-Safe knives that make them quite different than knives that are considered switchblades. Unlike a switchblade, Speed-Safe blades DO NOT deploy with the push of a button in the handle or by gravity alone. Instead, the user must manually overcome the torsion bar's resistance - using the thumb stud or Index-Open protrusion on the blade itself - in order to engage the Speed-Safe system. Because the user must manually overcome the torsion bar's resistance, Speed-Safe knives fall fully outside the Fedral definition of a switchblade. However due to the complexity and constantly changing nature of these laws and regulations, it is impossible for Kershaw Knives to be aware of every restriction in every location in which our knives are sold or carried. It is the responsibility of the buyer to investigate and comply with the laws and regulations that apply in his or her specific area.
UNQUOTE

Personally I do carry the Speed-Safe assisted opening Leek as an EDC - but only in my home - so it gets plenty of use exactly because it is convenient, fast and right sized.

But despite the assurance of the legality of the Kershaw Ken Onion Speed-Safe system - I personally do not carry it outside of my property - simply to avoid any possible arguments about its legality - but that is only my personal take, and as always - YMMV.

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Vincent

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Hi Vincent,

One fine review!!!! I've always liked the smaller Kershaw "Ken Onion" blades. Thanks for the review.
 
Burt - for those kind words.

I also really like the Black Chive - it is really cute and has a genuine "WoW!" factor with its black boron coating.

The blade really jumps out when the Speed-Safe is activated.

The Chives are a bit small for general usage - but are very handy nonetheless.

The Scallion is between the Chive and Leek in size - but I feel it's a bit thick for its size - because it uses a polyamide handle and separate stainless steel liners.

Looking at the new Kershaw catalog I noticed the Scallions are now available with color anodized aluminum handles (in blue, red and green) - that might make the knives a bit thinner - more fitting to its size..... I might investigate this variation a bit more.

But in the meantime I am really enjoying my Leek ......
(er - and the knife as well :D :D :D :p )
 
I just received my Rainbow Leek from the BF store. Wow! What a beauty! It's worth the extra!
As to sharpness- I shaved hair off my back with it! Really sharp and worked well, but don't try this at home kiddies.
I've got to go spend some time admiring my precious now.
 
Originally posted by uncle
I just received my Rainbow Leek from the BF store. Wow! What a beauty! It's worth the extra!
As to sharpness- I shaved hair off my back with it! Really sharp and worked well, but don't try this at home kiddies.
I've got to go spend some time admiring my precious now.

Envy rises Gollum-like over your "Precious-sss" :D

There is also now a Rainbow Chive in addition to the Black (boron coated) Chive - maybe there might be a Black Leek in the future too?

The page in the new Kershaw Knives catalog shows off these Rainbows very well:

Catalog Cover:
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Catalog Rainbow page:
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It's amazing how quickly I've fallen in love with the Leek - I can't recall being this enthusiastic about a knife for a while now.

Now that I'm carrying the Leek as an at home EDC - in many ways I wish I had the Rainbow version - just didn't realize how much I would have liked the knife.

The combo edge (partially serrated) looks cool too - just that serrations to me are a very crude way of cutting - especially when compared to a good sharp plain edge - but it does look very cool:

Leeks - Plain and Combo edges:
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Vincent

http://UnknownVincent.cjb.net/
http://UnknownVT.cjb.net/
 
I like my Rainbow Leek, it is cool and fun to play with. That said, for me, it is very slow to operate because it is so slippery I have to really make sure that I have a good grip on it before I open it. That precaution has really saved alot of wear and tear on the fingers.
 
Originally posted by fudo
That said, for me, it is very slow to operate because it is so slippery I have to really make sure that I have a good grip on it before I open it. That precaution has really saved alot of wear and tear on the fingers.

That's interesting -

I have the tiny Black Chive (boron-carbide coated) and would have thought it would be equally "slippery" as the titanium-oxide coating on the Rainbows.

Although the coated Black Chive is smoother and has less of a grip than a knife without the coating - I would not have called it "slippery".

Just a question about how you are opening the blade -

I assume you are using the Index-Open (see review above) as opposed to trying to open the blade with the thumb-studs?

If, however, you've been using only the thumb-studs -
then I could see why you might consider a smoother/polished finish to be "slippery".
 
Originally posted by Cliff Stamp
Comprehensive review, any comment about the handle ergonomics / retention?
for your kind words Cliff -
(means a lot, as I greatly admire your testing)

Generally the Leek feels slim and sleek -
the weight is nice - again just about right too.

When open the handle fits my right hand well - (long thin fingers) and feels very comfortable despite the pocket-clip - all the corners are rounded/bevelled - the bead-blast finish is very fine and smooth.

My index finger falls/fits naturally in the contoured cut-out in the handle for the frame-lock, with the Index-Open part of the blade forming a finger guard.

Depending on how I'm cutting my thumb falls either on the pivot Torx head or on the top end of the handle where the blade back has some comfortable (rounded) grooves. Again this is all natural and feels very secure to me.

If I ever need to push hard the knife can be palmed - ie: it fits nicely with the butt end of the handle stopped by the heel of the palm (between the pinky/ring fingers parts of the palm)

I don't normally torque, twist, or stress the knife - but it seems to me that if I were squeezing the knife under stress, it is more likely that I would tighten and further engage the frame-lock.

I'm very right-handed but the Leek feels OK in the left-hand too, but the pocket-clip becomes more noticable. Not too sure about which way I might squeeze the frame-lock under stress - but I think the pocket clip may well get in the way and actually help prevent any accidental operation of the lock with the left-hand.

I know it may well be infatuation for now -
but the knife feels real good to me -
and that counts a lot.
 
Having owned the Kershaw/Ken Onion LEEK for just over an additional week, and carried it as my at home only EDC - here are a few more impressions.

Having the knife clipped to my pocket and with its Speed-Safe assisted opening makes it a very handy and useful knife.

It is exactly because it is "right-sized" for me that I like, and use it so much.

It has a slim/sleek profile and the blade stock is somewhat thinner than most knives of this size.

I have done quite a bit of cutting with it - more significantly - cheddar cheese - again this cut the cheese well and the cheese did not stick to the knife face - unlike say my favorite kitchen knife that I would have used the Chicago Cutlery 5" 62S utility/boner.

A more severe test turned out to be actually cutting a large raw sweet potato. :D :D

The 3" blade is a bit short for the size of sweet potato - there was no problem making the initial cut, but as the blade moved through the sweet potato - it tended not to go where I wanted it to - this was not a problem with a longer bladed knife - so I think it's more of a function of the blade length than anything else.

The reasion why it was more of a severe test is that one tends to wriggle the blade - twist and torque it when in the sweet potato. The Leek would about half point actually part/split the potato more like a wedge/axe/cleaver, rather than continually cut through it.

The twisting and torquing made me very conscious of the lock's strength and more to the point reliability - so I was cautious, not to over-do things - so I may have been less strenuous/forceful, and careful not to disturb the frame-lock.

But I am pleased to report that the frame-lock appeared to be just perceptibly engaged more than when the blade was initially opened.

So now I have more confidence of the reliability of this frame-lock.

The handle when cutting this tougher object was still reasonably comfortable - perhaps it is more correct to say it was NOT UNcomfortable - it obviously could cope with hard cutting.

But an Opinel No.8 which I compared, was more comfortable, but not much better in actual cutting.

Both were better than my 3" paring knife - mainly because I could simply exert more force with either than the paring knife.
 
UnknownVT :

But an Opinel No.8 which I compared, was more comfortable, but not much better in actual cutting.

That says a lot about the cutting ability of the Leek as the Opinels are among the best production cutting blades on the market.

-Cliff
 
Originally posted by Cliff Stamp
That says a lot about the cutting ability of the Leek as the Opinels are among the best production cutting blades on the market.

Perhaps any difficulties that the Opinel No.8 encountered was because its blade was simply too short/small for the sweet potato - a larger version would probably have done a lot better.... to allow for a more approprite/efficient leveraged/guillotine style cut.

However on "tactical" cheese cutting :D - although the Opinel cut well enough - the cheese tended to stick to the blade's face, so gave more resistance when the width of the blade was completely inside the cheese.

It's not so much that the LEEK felt any "sharper" - just that the cheese did not stick, so the blade probably had an easier ride through the cheese.....

I'll know which knife I'd choose - if I'm attacked by a
homicidal Cheddar :D ;) :p
 
Hi Guys,

I have the Black Chive and the Leek for myself and I bought a Rainbow Leek for the Misses, (Which she like plenty). I have enjoyed the knives quite a bit and have just purchased a Boa off of a fellow forumite.

The only downside I can see is that I do not get to enjoy them much away from the house. Even though they sell these at Cabella's here in Michigan. I don't want to freak anyone out at work, or elsewhere, by popping it out. Sheeple's eyes get all wide and they snort and paw the ground when they see one of these open. "Good god it's a switch blade. What are you doing with a switch blade" I could show them the fact that my Benchmade 942, with the axis lock, could be opened much faster but they would try to outlaw that one too :( Sad the foolish laws that are passed just to give a false sense of security to some.

I don't want to rain on these knives however they are very nice. I enjoy them when I can. :)
 
Originally posted by Greymoor
The only downside I can see is that I do not get to enjoy them much away from the house. Even though they sell these at Cabella's here in Michigan. I don't want to freak anyone out at work, or elsewhere, by popping it out. Sheeple's eyes get all wide and they snort and paw the ground when they see one of these open. "Good god it's a switch blade. What are you doing with a switch blade"

I thought your take on this is a very mature view -
it is actually considerate of you not to want to intimidate your family, friends, colleagues and acquaintances.
The other benefit is obviously you avoid the possible fuss/hassle that such attention will draw
("call the cops, that's a switchblade/weapon" - and think how one might have to explain things to the LEO, to "prove" it is not a switchblade)

So very much like you
at home only - I EDC the Kershaw/Ken Onion LEEK - Speed-Safe assisted/auto opening knife with a pocket clip. It is exactly this pocket clip, combined with the right size (for me) and its fast assisted opening that makes it easy to access and my at home EDC.

However when I am off my property - I EDC a SAK -
I thought at first this might have been just my personal avoidance of having to argue the legality of the LEEK, which looks and acts like a switchblade - despite the extensive legal research that Kershaw have done to show that it is not a switchblade by any Federal definition....

But it is more than that - when out I want more tools on me -
at home I would have easy access to various tools.

If I could I would carry out the LEEK - just to play with,
but my true away from home "usin'" EDC is the SAK, because it is a knife -
but it also has handy tools.
 
I too love my Leek, which has become my EDC (even while traveling on business). Slim lines, soft finish, and modest size, makes it my Gentleman's choice for the suit-and-tie occasions. Even a few gals have commented about the "elegant" design of my Leek. One gal (a particularly attractive Czech dancer) borrowed my wool great-coat, fished my Leek from the pocket, and deftly flicked it open - first time. She was visibly impressed, making quite the stunning picture standing there blade in hand, a soft light glinting off the beaded steel, against the backdrop of her dark blouse and mini. I made real sure it was returned with the coat. I check a bag at the airport, with my Leek inside, just so I can have it when traveling away from home.

One thing though, has anyone ever removed the pivot pin and had problems tensioning the spring?

So far my only maintenance has been to touch-up the edge, a little Tuf-Glide, and removing just the pivot screw for a little LockTite and tightening. I confess, I am afraid to remove the pivot pin, fearing something will spring out of the mechanism that will get lost or be impossible to figure out how to reinstall.

Anyone have any first-hand experience removing the pivot pin, that they could share?

TT2Toes
 
Wow, excellent review! Well done. Thanks for taking so much time with it. It really shows.

Chad
 
Originally posted by TT2Toes
One thing though, has anyone ever removed the pivot pin and had problems tensioning the spring?
<snip>
I confess, I am afraid to remove the pivot pin, fearing something will spring out of the mechanism that will get lost or be impossible to figure out how to reinstall.

Anyone have any first-hand experience removing the pivot pin, that they could share?

.......... but if you take a look at the cut-away diagram of the Leek in my first (review) post, the torsion spring is enclosed behind a thin plate - (I remember Ken Onion talking about how thin that plate was on the tiny Chive back at the 2001 Blade Show) - so it shouldn't just spring out....

But whether that plate is held in place other than the assembled handles is something to be careful about.

Also you might want to think about whether one should disassemble the knife open or closed for the least tension from the torsion spring. Note, I figure the torsion spring is NOT under tension when the blade is open

However being the cautious type I'd disassemble for the first time in a clear plastic bag just in case.......

But more important where's the picture of your Leek......
with the Czech dancer?
(and phone #? :D :D )
 
When my rainbow leek arrived the blade was rubbing the scale. It had a shiny silver spot. :( I had to send it back, I never really got to play with it. I hope it comes home soon. I have not heard of any other problems. I wish the leek series had better steel.
 
Originally posted by Ironman
I wish the leek series had better steel.

Although the 440A is not exactly a "premium" steel, if it is well heat treated it is still a very servicable general purpose steel.

Of course our pursuit is for a super steel - but normally where one gains, one loses somewhere else - I'd rather have a well balanced steel which might not be the "best" in anything - than have one that excels in one area to the detriment in others - unless I have a specific specialist need.

I've noticed recently that the 440 series seems to have had a revival in popularity with some factory knives using 440C instead of the very popular "premium" ATS-34......

Just as an added note - since I've had my plain Leek I've used it every day - since it is my at home EDC - cutting stuff that's not so nice to blades like cardboard and paper - the Leek feels as sharp as it was received - I've not had to touch up the edge, and on close examination there are as yet no shiney flat spots anywhere on the blade - this speaks surprisingly well for its edge retention - which 440A is not exactly reputed for.
 
Vincent: Curiosity will probably win out, and I'll try tearing my Leek apart at some point. As far a pic of Julia and my Leek, 'fraid that image exists only in my memories. If the opportunity ever arises, I'll ask her to model with the Leek for a real pic.

When my rainbow leek arrived the blade was rubbing the scale. It had a shiny silver spot. I had to send it back. . . .

Ironman: my blade started to rub against one frame scale when the pivot pin got a little loose. Think it happens due to side pressure from the torsion spring. Anyway, a little LokTite on the pivot screw threads, and tightening with a torx driver, fixed everything up. You may try this if the situation occurs again.

TT2Toes
 
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