Kershaw Liner Lock failure

[Stays Sharp]

No, it shouldn't be shut down, it was my fault. I'm a new member and I've been reading ALOT of old threads and this gent just rubbed me the wrong way with his fervent (nice word right?) support for KAI where they can never do no wrong. They are one of my favorite brands also but cmon! I'll stop, carry on fellas!

 

[sticktodrum]

Piercing and stabbing are not the same thing.

Maybe it's just me but 'piercing capabilities' to me says, 'it has a sharp tip' and not 'you can repeatedly stab hard objects with it'. Just like slicing capabilities doesn't mean it can chop a tree down.

No where in that description does it say 'tactical' or 'hard use'. It says multi-tasking which means light to medium duty EDC tasks.

Either way, the point is moot. The OP found the failure was operator error, not the knife.

These posts sum up the meat of the discussion. There isn't much point in expounding further.

Hey Scurvy, do they pay you for this? They should at least give you a knife or two for defending the brand so well I've noticed your posts on these sort of threads, maybe you can help mod a new Kershaw subforum!

When it comes to information and how people process it, some will have a bias for their truth to come how they want it. He's a rabid KAI fan check out his previous posts. They even kick him down free goodies as a reward for his service. I know he doesnt work for KAI but he'd make a great subforum mod, like they never skipped a beat.

No, you have it wrong. I'm the one that gets free knives from Kai. From serial #0002 of the 0600 to magical prototype talks with Hinderer and Rexford, I'm the one who's all buddy-buddy with the folks at Kai. Scurvy is just a smart person who can easily detect flawed logic and childish non-jokes. He doesn't get anywhere near the amount of "goodies" as I do.

Sometimes I wish BladeForums had a like button.

Just for grins I Googled the definition of pierce. Notice that four letter word that is synonymous with pierce?

pierce
pi(&#601rs/
verb
1.
(of a sharp pointed object) go into or through (something).

synonyms: penetrate, puncture, perforate, prick, lance; stab,spike, stick, impale, transfix, bore through, drill through

Synonyms are synonyms. They don't necessarily provide definition. Considering that list of words all don't provide definition of "pierce," citing stab being a synonym for pierce as evidence that the Blur was designed for stabbing is not a persuasive point.

Cute move, but still incorrect.


These kinds of threads always make me smile. Sure, the fans of Kershaw and ZT can be called predictable. We don't mind it; we know where we stand. The real fun is in reading the rest of the posts of people who think they're uncovering some massive conspiracy. I never know what they'll say next.

 

[fzla226]

From my experience the liner locks on blurs aren't hardened enough. The models I have either have early and weak lockup (I can actually push the lock closed) or get worn out and develop vertical play. It seems something specific to the blur though since the other liner lock kershaws I've owned have had stiffer liner locks.

 

[Scurvy092]

Either way, the point is moot. The OP found the failure was operator error, not the knife.

 

[Wharn]

Just an aside, I can't wait to see the 2014 catalog on January 14th. Now carry on...

 

[Stays Sharp]

Stick, love your vids bro. You have the best vid on the 801CF out there.......AWWWE I cant wait! Thanks for those interviews with KAI too. Regarding Scurvy, like I said I've been reading a ridiculous amount of threads and came across one or two where he said he got a kick down from them. Nothing wrong with that, that is very kind of them and they seem to do it all the time. I believe talking about each other is a no-no so my bad on that, just not a fan of that rabid cant do no wrong support.

 

[Scurvy092]

Stick, love your vids bro. You have the best vid on the 801CF out there.......AWWWE I cant wait! Thanks for those interviews with KAI too. Regarding Scurvy, like I said I've been reading a ridiculous amount of threads and came across one or two where he said he got a kick down from them. Nothing wrong with that, that is very kind of them and they seem to do it all the time. I believe talking about each other is a no-no so my bad on that, just not a fan of that rabid cant do no wrong support.

I just want to clarify before this gets parroted across the forum...

A) Maybe if you had a join date older than 3 months ago you would know that when Thomas was active on the boards he gave out knives like they were candy.

B) That ONE knife was an early birthday present from Thomas who gave it to me personally at BLADE last year as a consolation for me having to leave the show early.


I appreciate you doing your homework (more than I can say for most people on this board) but try to make sure you have your facts straight before you go making accusations.

Thanks.

 

[RevDevil]

That is a cool video, I had not seen it before. Much better than a NutnBoring video.
I've started carrying a CPM 154 Blur again for the last 2 weeks, every day and I love it. The liner is still in the same spot it was when I got it months ago. :thumbup:

 

[grownstar]

I carried a Blur for months at a time. Had great lock-up and the liner didn't move one bit. That being said, my buddy has a desert sand blur and his lock-up is a little earlier than I would be comfortable with. That being said, it's a $60 production knife guys. There will be differences in lock-up, fit and finish and so on.

And what's so bad with being a rabid KAI fan? Or Benchmade fan? Or Chris Reeve fan? Aren't we all here because, generally speaking, we're rabid knife fans? I don't frequent paintball forums or car forums because I could care less about that stuff. But if the lighting is just right, you can bet your ass I'm gonna whip my knife out and snap a pic

 

[sticktodrum]

Stick, love your vids bro. You have the best vid on the 801CF out there.......AWWWE I cant wait! Thanks for those interviews with KAI too. Regarding Scurvy, like I said I've been reading a ridiculous amount of threads and came across one or two where he said he got a kick down from them. Nothing wrong with that, that is very kind of them and they seem to do it all the time. I believe talking about each other is a no-no so my bad on that, just not a fan of that rabid cant do no wrong support.

That is a cool video, I had not seen it before. Much better than a NutnBoring video.
I've started carrying a CPM 154 Blur again for the last 2 weeks, every day and I love it. The liner is still in the same spot it was when I got it months ago. :thumbup:

Well thank you. I really wasn't sure if anyone watched my videos, but I'm quite glad that's the case. The kind words are much appreciated.

The CPM-154 Blur is my favorite one they ever made. Takes a lefty clip perfectly too.

 

[poolhustler]

Was the knife in question a drop point or a Tanto??

 

[fzla226]

That is a cool video, I had not seen it before. Much better than a NutnBoring video.
I've started carrying a CPM 154 Blur again for the last 2 weeks, every day and I love it. The liner is still in the same spot it was when I got it months ago. :thumbup:

Lucky you. My cpm 154 blur started developing vertical play and had a really sticky lock before that.

 

[cncpro11]

For even more hilarity, I googled the definition of the word synonym.

syn·o·nym
ˈsinəˌnim/
noun
1.
a word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language, for example shut is a synonym of close.
synonyms:alternate, substitute, alternative, equivalent, euphemism

 

[crom]

Prior to this thread there have been videos of people disengaging Kershaw liner locks with light spine whacks. One that got some attention was A blem 350Zt and one was the Blur. Is it symptomatic? No way, but to assume its always operator error is presumptive. Liner locks probably aren't the best for a knife marketed as a rough and tumble take anything knife.

 

[fzla226]

Prior to this thread there have been videos of people disengaging Kershaw liner locks with light spine whacks. One that got some attention was A blem 350Zt and one was the Blur. Is it symptomatic? No way, but to assume its always operator error is presumptive. Liner locks probably aren't the best for a knife marketed as a rough and tumble take anything knife.

Nah. I think it's more of a design problem. Properly executed a liner lock shouldn't disengage easily like that. I mean like I said, I can actually push an older blur closed with just the force of my hands. A lot of their models tend to have fairly soft tempered steel liners. Makes nice for disengagement, but not so nice for secure lockup. Still like the CPM 154 blur I have though. It's very smooth and if it didn't have the wonky liner wouldn't have any play and it still drops free without any side to side play. I just know that it's a fairly light duty knife. Spyderco does their liner locks right, radius cuts on the lockface and a good mid level engagement with a fairly stiff lockbar. It's kind of a joke though that a big and heavy knife marketed as being tactical like the 350 wouldn't be able to pass a spinewack test whereas the 50% lighter Spyderco Military will pass the same test.

 

[RevDevil]

Well thank you. I really wasn't sure if anyone watched my videos, but I'm quite glad that's the case. The kind words are much appreciated.

The CPM-154 Blur is my favorite one they ever made. Takes a lefty clip perfectly too.

Was that you stick? If so well done. :thumbup:

Lucky you. My cpm 154 blur started developing vertical play and had a really sticky lock before that.

Did you get it taken care of?

 

[fzla226]

Did you get it taken care of?

I really should. Just haven't bothered to do it yet. Dealt with a problem with a broken torsion bar in another blur, know Kai USA's customer service is top notch.

 

[RevDevil]

I really should. Just haven't bothered to do it yet. Dealt with a problem with a broken torsion bar in another blur, know Kai USA's customer service is top notch.

I would say that it's absolutely worth it. The use of CPM154 in a production knife is very hard to come by. The Blur platform is a very well loved platform for it's size, shape, and Ken Onion genius. I really like the steel, and when i had a chance to own one I jumped on it. I payed just under $100 for one, I'm sure they are harder to find now. Switched the clip for tip up and I was set.
I own a lot of liner lock knives, and have seen some flexing, slipping, and other worrisome behavior, and at one point even had a frame lock partially close on me. What I noticed on these knives (all of them) the pivots were not as tight as they needed to be, and there was a little bit of grease or oil on the lock interface area. That prompted me to start checking other knives and i found some had no oil anywhere near the locking interface and the pivots were tightly adjusted, no slop or unreal opening resistance.. Those were rock solid. Send her on it and let them make it right, it's a really nice cutter and needs love.

 

[DeWalt7]

Have the S30V Kershaw Blur and very happy with it. Saw a video on youtube where the owner used the tip as a pry bar and kept on prying a piece of wood. Though i believe S30V is a good steel, i'm always reminded by my dad that 'Pocket knives are usually for cutting, for stabbing, use an ice pick!"... He says, that's what holdup gangs do here in the Philippines.

 

[jac_solar]

Nevermind.