KERSHAW TYRADE G-10 vs SPYDERCO MANIX M2

Great, another Spyderco vs. Kershaw thread. :rolleyes:

I'm siding with the Manix 2 on this one. I don't like recurves, AO's are a bit give / take, and having to depend on a flipper are all a bit too much for me.
 
My vote goes to the Manix 2. The ergos are better for me, I like the ball lock over the liner. I'm fairly neutral about AO, so I don't consider it a plus. The steel difference is minimal. If you need a thicker tip or are worried about losing it while outdoors, then the orange G-10 may work well for you. But you always have an option to get a glow in the dark lanyard and put that on the Manix 2. It's a fairly close call for me, but again, I vote for the Manix.
 
As far as I can tell, both have an edge made out of D2, and both are tempered the same. I can't for the life of me understand why the the fused upper portion of the blade makes any difference in the cutting edge.

As far as the opening goes, don't both knifes feature the patented Ken Onion SpeedSafe assisted opening system?

Thanks,

Richard
 
As far as I can tell, both have an edge made out of D2, and both are tempered the same. I can't for the life of me understand why the the fused upper portion of the blade makes any difference in the cutting edge.

As far as the opening goes, don't both knifes feature the patented Ken Onion SpeedSafe assisted opening system?

Thanks,

Richard

Manix 2 = 154CM (made by Spyderco)

Tyrade = D2 (made by Kershaw)
 
Manix 2 = 154CM (made by Spyderco)

Tyrade = D2 (made by Kershaw)

No, he's talking about a comparison of the JYD II CB and the Tyrade. They both use CPM-D2 for the cutting edge. The Tyrade incorporates the AO speedsafe opening system, but the JYD II uses a simple flipper with no AO. I really like both knives, but I happen to prefer the JYDII over the Tyrade as well. I just like the blade shape and handle better.

To the OP, I can't really comment as I've never even had a chance to handle the Manix II. I do own a couple of the G-10 Tyrades and I like them. They make a great EDC for sure. I've heard that there may be a run of FFG Manix II models so I'm holding off for now in the hopes that this is true. I'm not a huge fan of the Saber Grind, but if a FFG model isn't made I'll fold and buy one.
 
No, he's talking about a comparison of the JYD II CB and the Tyrade. They both use CPM-D2 for the cutting edge. The Tyrade incorporates the AO speedsafe opening system, but the JYD II uses a simple flipper with no AO. I really like both knives, but I happen to prefer the JYDII over the Tyrade as well. I just like the blade shape and handle better.

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To the OP, I can't really comment as I've never even had a chance to handle the Manix II. I do own a couple of the G-10 Tyrades and I like them. They make a great EDC for sure. I've heard that there may be a run of FFG Manix II models so I'm holding off for now in the hopes that this is true. I'm not a huge fan of the Saber Grind, but if a FFG model isn't made I'll fold and buy one.

There is a run of FFG S90V 4"+ Manix 2 knives coming down the line. Street price is around $175 though.
 
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$175 ain't bad at all for a 4'' S90V FFG blade, G-10, and an enclosed BB lock. I'll take it!
 
The Tyrade is assisted opener, isn't the JYDII a manual action?

Manual, yes, but it might as well be an AO. It's a fast-action flipper.

By the way, why do these composite blades use 154CM for the spine? Doesn't it cost more to:

1. Use a cutlery steel for the spine instead of something cheaper (at least I think 154CM is a cutlery steel)?
2. Go through the composite process rather than to just use a whole slab of CPM-D2?

Maybe I'm wrong on both, because the JYD, for example, can be had for a very low price.

And I also recommend the JYD. I don't own one, but I have handled one and it is VERY comfortable in the hand (as ugly as it looks). The only thing I don't like so much is the loss of cutting edge compared to other Kershaws (the Tyrade's cutting edge starts pretty much where the handle ends, for example).
 
Manual, yes, but it might as well be an AO. It's a fast-action flipper.

By the way, why do these composite blades use 154CM for the spine? Doesn't it cost more to:

1. Use a cutlery steel for the spine instead of something cheaper (at least I think 154CM is a cutlery steel)?
2. Go through the composite process rather than to just use a whole slab of CPM-D2?

Maybe I'm wrong on both, because the JYD, for example, can be had for a very low price.

And I also recommend the JYD. I don't own one, but I have handled one and it is VERY comfortable in the hand (as ugly as it looks). The only thing I don't like so much is the loss of cutting edge compared to other Kershaws (the Tyrade's cutting edge starts pretty much where the handle ends, for example).

What you have to realize is that the blades of the Tyrade were only (originally) to be used in the Titanium/Carbon Fiber version.
Using a lower cost steel just wouldn't have been fitting.

The JYDII CB's composite blade has a spine of 13C26 (currently), new models will probably incorporate the 14C28N into the spine.
Hence the difference in price.

Yes, the JYD is actually more comfortable in the hand for most peeps.
The width of the Tyrade takes away from it being more small hand friendly.

mike
 
What you have to realize is that the blades of the Tyrade were only (originally) to be used in the Titanium/Carbon Fiber version.
Using a lower cost steel just wouldn't have been fitting.

Why wouldn't it be "fitting?" The carbon fiber Caly 3 uses ZDP as its cutting steel and 420J2 as the "outer" steel. I certainly consider the CF Caly 3 a high-end knife.

The JYDII CB's composite blade has a spine of 13C26 (currently), new models will probably incorporate the 14C28N into the spine.
Hence the difference in price.

Well that's my question: why would they do that? How does upgrading the spine's steel provide any benefits?

You see, I'm thinking that costs can be cut for both Kershaw and for us, the consumer, and there will be no change in performance.
 
Well that's my question: why would they do that? How does upgrading the spine's steel provide any benefits?

You see, I'm thinking that costs can be cut for both Kershaw and for us, the consumer, and there will be no change in performance.

The Ti Tyrade was meant to be a fancy schmancy knife meaning all high end material. For the average consumer, anything that cuts rope will do, but for us its different. We want the best, or the best we can afford.

The 154 spine was just another "perk" for the knife knut. You wouldn`t put only tweeters in your custom stereo system.

Funny how most of us ask the big makers for the new fancy blade steel or material, then wonder why the price is so much, lol.
 
Thanks a lot for all the advices guys, much appreciated !
I would go for an orange TYRADE I guess as I feel it's a bit more suited to my hands. Although, honestly I would have preffered a GEN I full size MANIX with S30V but that is discontinued and it's in another price range.
 
Ahh knife nuts....LOL~ what perk is there to having a spine of a steel with more wear resistance? Do you plan to sharpen the spine? Sheesh! Now for the question, If the Tyrade was not a recurve, and also didn't have the AO, (which is a gimmick at best IMHO) it would be perfect. It has a damn comfortable handle, and Kershaw's warranty is superior to Spyderco's. But for a pure cutter, I have to vote Manix. Mostly due to the blade shape and no AO.
 
The lock and the presence of an AO mechanism both tilt me in the direction of the Manix, but I'm not a big fan of liner locks nor assisted opening. Your preferences may vary.
 
Ahh knife nuts....LOL~ what perk is there to having a spine of a steel with more wear resistance? Do you plan to sharpen the spine? Sheesh!

I`ll sharpen my spine if you sharpen yours, lol.

Of course not. But I`m sayin, it just nice to have.

If you bought the Ti Tyrade, would you rather have a 13c26 spine or 154CM, all at the same price. I`d bet you`d take the 154CM.
 
Ahh knife nuts....LOL~ what perk is there to having a spine of a steel with more wear resistance? Do you plan to sharpen the spine? Sheesh! Now for the question, If the Tyrade was not a recurve, and also didn't have the AO, (which is a gimmick at best IMHO) it would be perfect. It has a damn comfortable handle, and Kershaw's warranty is superior to Spyderco's. But for a pure cutter, I have to vote Manix. Mostly due to the blade shape and no AO.

How do you figure?
 
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