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As far as I can tell, both have an edge made out of D2, and both are tempered the same. I can't for the life of me understand why the the fused upper portion of the blade makes any difference in the cutting edge.
As far as the opening goes, don't both knifes feature the patented Ken Onion SpeedSafe assisted opening system?
Thanks,
Richard
Manix 2 = 154CM (made by Spyderco)
Tyrade = D2 (made by Kershaw)
No, he's talking about a comparison of the JYD II CB and the Tyrade. They both use CPM-D2 for the cutting edge. The Tyrade incorporates the AO speedsafe opening system, but the JYD II uses a simple flipper with no AO. I really like both knives, but I happen to prefer the JYDII over the Tyrade as well. I just like the blade shape and handle better.
To the OP, I can't really comment as I've never even had a chance to handle the Manix II. I do own a couple of the G-10 Tyrades and I like them. They make a great EDC for sure. I've heard that there may be a run of FFG Manix II models so I'm holding off for now in the hopes that this is true. I'm not a huge fan of the Saber Grind, but if a FFG model isn't made I'll fold and buy one.
$175 ain't bad at all for a 4'' S90V FFG blade, G-10, and an enclosed BB lock. I'll take it!
The Tyrade is assisted opener, isn't the JYDII a manual action?
Manual, yes, but it might as well be an AO. It's a fast-action flipper.
By the way, why do these composite blades use 154CM for the spine? Doesn't it cost more to:
1. Use a cutlery steel for the spine instead of something cheaper (at least I think 154CM is a cutlery steel)?
2. Go through the composite process rather than to just use a whole slab of CPM-D2?
Maybe I'm wrong on both, because the JYD, for example, can be had for a very low price.
And I also recommend the JYD. I don't own one, but I have handled one and it is VERY comfortable in the hand (as ugly as it looks). The only thing I don't like so much is the loss of cutting edge compared to other Kershaws (the Tyrade's cutting edge starts pretty much where the handle ends, for example).
What you have to realize is that the blades of the Tyrade were only (originally) to be used in the Titanium/Carbon Fiber version.
Using a lower cost steel just wouldn't have been fitting.
The JYDII CB's composite blade has a spine of 13C26 (currently), new models will probably incorporate the 14C28N into the spine.
Hence the difference in price.
Well that's my question: why would they do that? How does upgrading the spine's steel provide any benefits?
You see, I'm thinking that costs can be cut for both Kershaw and for us, the consumer, and there will be no change in performance.
Ahh knife nuts....LOL~ what perk is there to having a spine of a steel with more wear resistance? Do you plan to sharpen the spine? Sheesh!
Ahh knife nuts....LOL~ what perk is there to having a spine of a steel with more wear resistance? Do you plan to sharpen the spine? Sheesh! Now for the question, If the Tyrade was not a recurve, and also didn't have the AO, (which is a gimmick at best IMHO) it would be perfect. It has a damn comfortable handle, and Kershaw's warranty is superior to Spyderco's. But for a pure cutter, I have to vote Manix. Mostly due to the blade shape and no AO.