Kershaw whiplash? any thoughts?

[oldschool45]

Not my cup of tea but short of thermal abuse that would probably melt the scales and screw the temper. I don’t think that tang will snap with bare hands. If you break it you are either putting a lot of lateral stress on it as in you are using it as a spear or a prybar not a knife.
Thomas, any idea what the spine thickness and Rockwell is on that 8CR13MOV blade?

 

[dawsonbob]

When was the last time you had to depend on your knife to keep you alive? If your tools are the only thing between you and eternity your planning and tactics really suck. If the whiplash was the only tool you had available and you decided to baton it, and it broke don't blame the whiplash. You should know the limitations of your tools, once you exceed these limitations don't blame the tools for the failure, its all operator error beyond that point. The reason they make a variety of knives is because people like diffrent things. If not we would all carry Busses, and Sebbies and we wouldn't really need a forum at all. Sounds pretty boring to me. If you don't like something move on there will be something out there that will tickle your fancy.

I wouldn't worry about the Whiplash failing me in any circumstances, because I wouldn't carry it under any circumstances. I choose dependable tools. It is my opinion that the Whiplash isn't a dependable tool. For you, it may be great, and I wish you all the best.

 

[Josh K]

Not my cup of tea but short of thermal abuse that would probably melt the scales and screw the temper. I don’t think that tang will snap with bare hands. If you break it you are either putting a lot of lateral stress on it as in you are using it as a spear or a prybar not a knife.
Thomas, any idea what the spine thickness and Rockwell is on that 8CR13MOV blade?

You don't think that that notch would prove to be a fault point when batoning?

 

[hunter s thompson]

I wouldn't worry about the Whiplash failing me in any circumstances, because I wouldn't carry it under any circumstances. I choose dependable tools. It is my opinion that the Whiplash isn't a dependable tool. For you, it may be great, and I wish you all the best.

Define dependable. Somewhere at this very moment someone is surviving with nothing but a loincloth, a rock and a stick. I think this person would really find the Whiplash to be a very dependable tool. It's all relative to what you have. You keep calling the Whiplash undependable but you have never handled one. You have, like myself only seen a picture of the knife and decided the design was worthless. The designers of the Whiplash may not have intended the knife for what you are planning to use it for. You wouldn't hammer in a screw would you? I hope you would use a screwdriver for this task. Remember the right tool for the right job. Good luck to you also.

 

[Josh K]

Define dependable. Somewhere at this very moment someone is surviving with nothing but a loincloth, a rock and a stick. I think this person would really find the Whiplash to be a very dependable tool. It's all relative to what you have. You keep calling the Whiplash undependable but you have never handled one. You have, like myself only seen a picture of the knife and decided the design was worthless. The designers of the Whiplash may not have intended the knife for what you are planning to use it for. You wouldn't hammer in a screw would you? I hope you would use a screwdriver for this task. Remember the right tool for the right job. Good luck to you also.

He's arguing it's bad on the merits of design, you're arguing it's good on what?

I very much doubt if I only had a stick and loincloth that I would find this knife to aptly perform all the tasks I would require of it. Knives get used beyond their intended use in these kinds of "extreme situations", yet I doubt that this knife would even perform to the level people expect of a fixed blade knife.

 

[dawsonbob]

Define dependable. Somewhere at this very moment someone is surviving with nothing but a loincloth, a rock and a stick. I think this person would really find the Whiplash to be a very dependable tool. It's all relative to what you have. You keep calling the Whiplash undependable but you have never handled one. You have, like myself only seen a picture of the knife and decided the design was worthless. The designers of the Whiplash may not have intended the knife for what you are planning to use it for. You wouldn't hammer in a screw would you? I hope you would use a screwdriver for this task. Remember the right tool for the right job. Good luck to you also.

Tedious. Yes, people do survive with very primitive means: I can too. If it comes to that, why, yes, I can knap flint to make my own knife. We're talking about choosing a knife to do what we need, though. Not hypothetical tribes of primitive people who have no choice. Just because I, personally, believe this knife would be a failure for the things I need a knife for, doesn't mean that it's not perfect for you. If that's your taste, then that's fine: your tastes and needs may be different than mine. I hope it doesn't come as a shock, but people are different. You may like the Cowboys and I like the Chargers. Neither is wrong, just different.

Yes, for me the design is worthless, yet it may be perfect for you. I don't have to actually handle that knife to see things that tell me that it won't work for me.

Best wishes,

Bob

 

[Tony8179]

What happened to this thread? I haven't handled a Whiplash so I can't splendor at it's awesomeness nor can I disregard it as a useless hunk of metal. Has any one person that has commented on this knife even handled one? Dawsonbob you have spoken your part. Fantastic! You have no need for the knife, but apparantly you do have the need to argue for no good reason. You haven't used the knife and you never will.... We get it, now shut up because you're adding nothing but ignorance at this point. Josh K. do you have anything but speculation and conjuncture to offer? I keep coming back to this thread to see if anyone who has actually handled and used one will chime in, but all I've seen is two pages of people arguing about a knife they have no familiarity with. Throw down your $40, use the hell out of it, and then come back and give a full review. If you still hate it at that point well then you can open the world's eyes as to why.

 

[Josh K]

double tap

 

[samhain73]

While I love Kershaw and Thomas's professional manner, I have to say that IMHO that is the 1st mall ninja knife I've seen come out of the respectable knife companies. But mall ninjas should have quality gear too I guess!

 

[Josh K]

What happened to this thread? I haven't handled a Whiplash so I can't splendor at it's awesomeness nor can I disregard it as a useless hunk of metal. Has any one person that has commented on this knife even handled one? Dawsonbob you have spoken your part. Fantastic! You have no need for the knife, but apparantly you do have the need to argue for no good reason. You haven't used the knife and you never will.... We get it, now shut up because you're adding nothing but ignorance at this point. Josh K. do you have anything but speculation and conjuncture to offer? I keep coming back to this thread to see if anyone who has actually handled and used one will chime in, but all I've seen is two pages of people arguing about a knife they have no familiarity with. Throw down your $40, use the hell out of it, and then come back and give a full review. If you still hate it at that point well then you can open the world's eyes as to why.

It's quite likely that I will end up purchasing the knife to prove my points, but conjuncture and speculation are not worthless. If no one here has handled the knife than all we can offer is conjuncture and speculation.

It's curious that you feel so threatened by mine and dawsonbob's opinions and reservations about this knife that you ask him to shut up and question what I have to offer. On what merits do you defend this knife? Are you simply looking for a honest review from someone who has used it? Or are you looking for a cease fire of all comments that don't come from owners?

 

[dawsonbob]

It's the latter, I think, Josh K. The man does have a point, though: none of us have handled this knife. On the other hand, I find it exceedingly odd that anyone would feel so threatened by opinions other than their own. You have brought up good points, and I have emphasized that my opinion was only that: my opinion. We seem to be causing a certain amount of angst simply by seeing that the emperor has no clothes.

 

[Tony8179]

First of all I'm not defending the knife. I can't defend a knife when I've had no experience with it. I haven't heard one thing from someone who has actually used the knife. I'm looking for a serious review, not an opinion from someone who looked a picture. What someone thinks of a knife is about as useful as what one thinks something might taste like by looking at it. I don't feel threatened by anyone here. I feel that if all you have to offer is your opinion on a knife when the OP asked for a review, well then you might as well just keep your mouth shut. Your thoughts are great for you, but they do me no good. And yes, most of the time speculation and conjuncture are useless. Go stand in front of a judge with nothing but speculation and conjuncture and see what that judge thinks. Give me cold hard facts, give me a review, give me more than your 2 pesos worth of thought.

If someone was to ask about Busse knives and I've never owned one why would I chime in? Why would I give my opinion on something I know nothing about? I wouldn't because that is just stupid. I wouldn't, but I'm sure plenty just love to put their words down so they can be seen by all, whether they know what they are talking about or not. Maybe it's just me though. Maybe I'm crazy in thinking that one shouldn't speak ill or good of something they know nothing about.

Now I'm done arguing about useless opinions. Buy the knife and give a thorough review. Some video would be nice.

 

[Josh K]

First of all I'm not defending the knife. I can't defend a knife when I've had no experience with it. I haven't heard one thing from someone who has actually used the knife. I'm looking for a serious review, not an opinion from someone who looked a picture. What someone thinks of a knife is about as useful as what one thinks something might taste like by looking at it. I don't feel threatened by anyone here. I feel that if all you have to offer is your opinion on a knife when the OP asked for a review, well then you might as well just keep your mouth shut. Your thoughts are great for you, but they do me no good. And yes, most of the time speculation and conjuncture are useless. Go stand in front of a judge with nothing but speculation and conjuncture and see what that judge thinks. Give me cold hard facts, give me a review, give me more than your 2 pesos worth of thought.

Now I'm done arguing about useless opinions. Buy the knife and give a thorough review. Some video would be nice.

Most of the time conjuncture and speculation are all you've got, especially with upcoming or just released models. They are not worthless, and when you're picking peoples brain for thoughts you can't be so "picky" about what you get back.

People have opinions about knives they've never handled or owned, nothing wrong with that. Compare it to judging a book by it's cover, most of the time half naked ladies paired with a man sporting washboard abs means it's not a little kid book.

Contrast your utter stubbornness for anything other then a full color hands on review with the original posters request:

Anyone checked out this knife? Any reviews?

http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/st....html?s=KS4355

Do you think the narrow handle would fmake it prone to break? How is the blade steel? thanks!

I don't see anything in there the forbids anything other then a formal review.

If you find my thoughts worthless why not find another thread to play in? Better yet, you pop $40 and give us a formal review.

 

[dawsonbob]

First of all I'm not defending the knife. I can't defend a knife when I've had no experience with it. I haven't heard one thing from someone who has actually used the knife. I'm looking for a serious review, not an opinion from someone who looked a picture. What someone thinks of a knife is about as useful as what one thinks something might taste like by looking at it. I don't feel threatened by anyone here. I feel that if all you have to offer is your opinion on a knife when the OP asked for a review, well then you might as well just keep your mouth shut. Your thoughts are great for you, but they do me no good. And yes, most of the time speculation and conjuncture are useless. Go stand in front of a judge with nothing but speculation and conjuncture and see what that judge thinks. Give me cold hard facts, give me a review, give me more than your 2 pesos worth of thought.

If someone was to ask about Busse knives and I've never owned one why would I chime in? Why would I give my opinion on something I know nothing about? I wouldn't because that is just stupid. I wouldn't, but I'm sure plenty just love to put their words down so they can be seen by all, whether they know what they are talking about or not. Maybe it's just me though. Maybe I'm crazy in thinking that one shouldn't speak ill or good of something they know nothing about.

Now I'm done arguing about useless opinions. Buy the knife and give a thorough review. Some video would be nice.

Now, that's reasonable. I, too, would like to see a review. Unfortunately, I can't afford to test this knife (I live on a paltry Social Security stipend, so I simply don't have the money), but go ahead and do a review, Tony8179, and let us know what you think.

 

[hardheart]

if I was home, I'd buy one and put in in the vise for a flex test with an angle finder to provide numbers for the results. heck, it's only a $35 knife.

 

[Tony8179]

Perhaps I will pop that $40 and give a full review. Personally, I think the guy arguing that the knife is a piece of garbage, after simply looking at a picture, should do the review to prove his thoughts true... No matter how shortsighted they are. Josh you may judge a book by it's cover, but in my experience it's a bad idea that usually makes one look silly and dim in the end. I'll judge the book after I've read it. Thank you for all your insightful and significant input though. It's much appreciated.

By the way, I'm sorry to the OP for being one of the guys screwing up your thread. I'll shut up now and wait until I see a review or do a review.

 

[Thomas W]

Easy now fellas, it's just a knife... Heck Tony PM me a shipping addy and I'll send you one for review.

 

[Dekz]

LOL...your join date gives you the ability to decide if a knife design is worthwhile?

Gee mine is Oct 2007,same as you,is that OK?

My point was less about who was talking and more about who they were talking to. New people might not know who Thomas is and what he stands for. When he says something about a knife, I believe it.

This post shows you exactly what I'm talking about:

Easy now fellas, it's just a knife... Heck Tony PM me a shipping addy and I'll send you one for review.

 

[Tony8179]

Thomas, I would love take you up on that offer, but you have no PM option my man. I'll do a review here and over at the official Kershaw forum as well. You can email me at Tony2Piece@aol.com I'd appreciate it and we can put this to rest as well. I just got laid off and have plenty of time on my hands.

If you really want to send me a knife to review I'd be more than happy to review the Speedform and the Volt for ya!

 

[hardheart]

he has PM, you don't