Kiku Matsuda custom Kamakura Tanto.

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Just received this Kiku Matsuda tanto...

Yes tanto, not just a tanto grind, it's a tanto.

From master knifemaker Kiku Matsuda, there's not much about him, just the best knife grinder in the world who has a real samurai ancestor and a family tradition of making samurai swords for hundred of years...:D

Since the production of Samurai sword is limited this is about the closest thing you can get.

"Kamakura" is 10" with 5 1/2" blade, features OU-31 steel in Japanese Tanto shape with hamaguri-ba edge (Japanese convex grind that was used on all samurai swords).

There's also a "mine"(triangle) grind on the back of the blade.

This is nothing less than a piece of art, if a tanto with paracord wrap is for mall ninja then so be it, as long as I get to own more Kiku blades I'd gladly be the boss ninja.

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It's no doubt the sharpest blade I've ever handled, it goes through papers with no resistance whatsoever.

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Sorry guys but there's no batoning with this beauty.

The high is still at its peak, can't even start to describe how satisfy I am with this knife.
And special thanks to Koki Iwahara for providing the excellent service.
 
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Very nice little blade I like Kiku's stuff

More Kwaiken sized than Tanto I would think
 
Funny, I just ate dinner with Kiku, Jemmy Iwahara, and Murray Carter.

Nice looking knife.
 
That's a nice little knife. I have a damascus one with a "super gold" steel core bought from the man him self at a show over here in Taiwan. I have a few of his knives, mostly small fixed blades but he makes some nice choppers as well as mid sized fighters and hunter/bush craft styled blades. :thumbup:

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Since the production of samurai sword is banned this is about the closest thing you can get.

If I may ask, WHERE?
 
Since the production of samurai sword is banned this is about the closest thing you can get.

If I may ask, WHERE?

Japan.

The modernization kills the katana industry and as far as I know it is after WWII the techniques used to forge true katanas were not allowed anymore.

The so called "katanas" you see on the market nowadays only look like katana but they're not, much like you wouldn't call Olive Garden true Italian gourmet.
 
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Since the production of samurai sword is banned this is about the closest thing you can get.

WTF are you talkin' 'bout, Willis?

Ain't no banning of katana in Japan, just very specific rules of production.

Care to elaborate?....please realize that you are on very thin ice, and proceed carefully....as you may have no idea what you are speaking about.

Ever heard of Yoshindo Yoshihara or his Grandfather?



JUST this one family goes back to early 1900's and continues to this day, in the manufacture and sale of ......katana, wakizashi, tanto and kiridashi.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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please realize that you are on very thin ice, and proceed carefully....as you may have no idea what you are speaking about.

Yeah yeah Mr. Knows-It-All so what will happen if I fall through the thin ice, get eaten by a salmon shark??

I'm not writing a scientific journal for crap's sake...
 
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Okay so I fixed the post, hopefully I don't get more smart @sses lecturing me about their Google finds.
 
Okay so I fixed the post, hopefully I don't get more smart @sses lecturing me about their Google finds.

STeven is one of the most knowledgeable people I know when it comes to Japanese swords. I would hardly call it a "google find". It comes from years of research and study. If you have a real interest about samurai or Japanese swords he is the man to talk to.

As far as lecturing, I wouldn't call it that. You made a very definitive statement regarding the making of swords in Japan and he simply called you out on your misrepresentation. With a little work on your part you would have found that there are indeed still swords made in japan by the same families who made them for multiple generations.

That said, I have long admired Kiku's knives...I've almost pulled the trigger a few times on his stuff.
 
What did they do regarding the making of swords? How did they limit or ban or whatever? Im just real curious and not trying to start anything by the way.
 
What did they do regarding the making of swords? How did they limit or ban or whatever? Im just real curious and not trying to start anything by the way.

I would imagine in the past it would be death... But there is currently no ban, just regulations.

Interestingly I just learned lately that many swordsmiths turned to making chefs knives when they could no longer make swords.
 
Yeah yeah Mr. Knows-It-All so what will happen if I fall through the thin ice, get eaten by a salmon shark??

I'm not writing a scientific journal for crap's sake...

Accuracy in something like this is not that hard, but every falsehood that gets put out there usually gets passed on by a bunch of people who take it as gospel and are too lazy to do the homework.

It's a nice blade, but has no historical accuracy whatsoever...Matsuda, Rockstead and others are working in patterns influenced by historic shapes to some degree with completely modern steels....but it isn't remotely close to traditional. If you had kept to the facts and simply talked about liking your knife, I would have just posted that I thought is was really nice.

The Kamakura period ( 1185–1333) is a period of Japanese history that marks the governance by the Kamakura Shogunate, officially established in 1192 in Kamakura by the first shogun Minamoto no Yoritomo. The Kamakura period ended in 1333 with the destruction of the shogunate and the short reestablishment of imperial rule under Emperor Go-Daigo by Ashikaga Takauji, Nitta Yoshisada, and Kusunoki Masashige....so there is your history lesson.

A lot of this stuff is on Wikipedia, so I do cut-and-paste for the sake of expediency, but I also have all the books, and could painstakingly transcribe the information, but what would that teach us?

What did they do regarding the making of swords? How did they limit or ban or whatever? Im just real curious and not trying to start anything by the way.

There is no law of habeas corpus in Japan, the Japanese police can - and often do - keep people in rooms for weeks without charge, adequate food or even sleep until incriminating confessions are signed. The police in Japan
have a lot of arbitrary power; they make their moves, and let the lawyers or Amnesty International sort it out later. Possession of a sword - and be it only a smallish Tantô - without the proper registration isn't only a misdemeanor but a criminal offense, punishable by up to minimum $4,000 fine and / or up to three years imprisonment. The harsher forms of interrogation and punishment are usually reserved for native Japanese...however, even foreigners are not immune from serious repercussions, in this case being deported after incarceration with other criminals for at least several days (sometimes at a charge of $700.00 per day), without access to family, a consulate, or even a lawyer.

General Douglas MacArthur was ordered to exercise authority through the Japanese government machinery, including the Shōwa Emperor. As Supreme Commander of the Allied Powers (SCAP) in Japan, MacArthur and his GHQ staff helped Japan rebuild itself, institute democratic government, and chart a new course that ultimately made Japan one of the world's leading industrial powers. The U.S. was firmly in control of Japan to oversee its reconstruction, and MacArthur was effectively the interim leader of Japan from 1945 until 1948. In the disarmament of Japan, swords were prohibited, production of nihontō with edges was banned except under police or government permit....however, the ban was overturned through a personal appeal by Dr. Junji Honma. During a meeting with General MacArthur, Dr. Honma produced blades from the various periods of Japanese history and MacArthur was able to identify very quickly what blades held artistic merit and which could be considered purely weapons. As a result of this meeting, the ban was amended so that swords of artistic merit could be owned and preserved. Even so, many nihontō were sold to American soldiers at a bargain price; in 1958 there were more Japanese swords in America than in Japan.

In 1977, the Japanese Society for Preservation of Japanese Art Swords (Nittoho), together with the Japanese government's Agency for Cultural Affairs and Hitachi Works, built in Shimane Prefecture the so-called Nittoho Tatara to provide the steel currently necessary for the production of contemporary Japanese swords. The Nittoho Tatara is managed jointly with Yasugi Works, a subsidiary company of Hitachi Metals, and is operational only during the winter.

Traditional swords are still made in Japan and occasionally elsewhere; they are termed "shinsakuto" or "shinken" (true sword), and can be very expensive. These are not considered reproductions as they are made by traditional techniques and from traditional materials. Swordsmiths in Japan are licensed; acquiring this license requires a long apprenticeship. Outside of Japan there are a couple of smiths working by traditional or mostly-traditional techniques. The only two Japanese-licensed smiths outside of Japan are, Keith Austin (art-name Nobuhira or Nobuyoshi) died in 1997, and 17th Generation Yoshimoto Bladesmith Murray Carter. Francis Boyd and Michael Bell also studied traditional swordmaking under a licensed polisher named Nakijima.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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Great thread regardless guys. I thought there was just a limit to the amount that can be made, and its just political red tape with having to apply for the right to forge a new sword. Thx guys.
 
WOW i never knew all that about the legality of swaords and whatnot!!!! Seems such a shame to limit part of your culture and let things of legend and beauty be limited!
 
WOW i never knew all that about the legality of swords and whatnot!!!! Seems such a shame to limit part of your culture and let things of legend and beauty be limited!

Better to have limitations than no ability to produce, and have the methods lost forever. Please understand...it IS limited, but the work currently produced in Japan is some of the best the world has ever seen. I attended an exhibition in Pasadena a few years ago featuring works by the entire Yoshihara family, and there was a blade by Yoshindo's brother made within the last 10 years that was heartstoppingly beautiful.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
I believe the production of swords by licensed swordsmiths in Japan is limited to two katana length swords a month. I welcome Mr. Garsson's corrections if I am mistaken. Also the spine shape on a katana, tachi, tanto, etc. is called "mune" as in iori mune. Interesting knife and blade treatment, I would prefer a traditional tsuka or handle. That is just me. Looks like a good using and carry blade.
Brion
 
It's a nice blade, but has no historical accuracy whatsoever...

I respect your knowledge and the lesson but I'm sure most here understand that Kiku makes performance blades, not history replicas, so your attempt at bringing in historic accuracy is rather pointless..
 
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I respect your knowledge and the lesson but I'm sure most here understand that Kiku makes performance blades, not history replicas, so your attempt at bringing in historic accuracy is rather pointless..

We will start with your original post

......Kiku Matsuda tanto...

Yes tanto, not just a tanto grind, it's a tanto.

From master knifemaker Kiku Matsuda, there's not much about him, just the best knife grinder in the world who has a real samurai ancestor and a family tradition of making samurai swords for hundred of years...:D

Since the production of Samurai sword is limited this is about the closest thing you can get.


"Kamakura" is 10" with 5 1/2" blade, features OU-31 steel in Japanese Tanto shape with hamaguri-ba edge (Japanese convex grind that was used on all samurai swords).

This is a tanto in shira saya, probably from the Muromachi period, it is made of tamahagane, has hamon and hada, and is of the type of item that Kiku's ancestors made:



The knife that you have posted is a MODERN INTERPRETATION of a tanto....the context is extremely important, as are the terms used.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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