Kiku Matsuda custom Kamakura Tanto.

Kohai999 said:
We will start with your original post



This is a tanto in shira saya, probably from the Muromachi period, it is made of tamahagane, has hamon and hada, and is of the type of item that Kiku's ancestors made:

The knife that you have posted is a MODERN INTERPRETATION of a tanto....the context is extremely important, as are the terms used.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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Ummm... are you so stuck in your fancy knowledge base that you started to forget what a simple word "close" means...?

I by no means am infering the modern Kiku tanto is "accurate" to its history counterpart, I don't know why but apparently you over interpreted "as close as it gets"..
 
riderV3 said:
Ummm... are you so stuck in your fancy knowledge base that you started to forget what a simple word "close" means...?

I by no means am infering the modern Kiku tanto is "accurate" to its history counterpart, I don't know why but apparently you over interpreted "as close as it gets"..
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I didn't put words in your mouth, I quoted you directly.

"fancy knowledge base"? I was studying swords and swordsmanship for 5 years before I ever posted on BladeForums...you might try to learn something before you start typing ignorance and insults.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Kohai999 said:
I didn't put words in your mouth, I quoted you directly.

"fancy knowledge base"? I was studying swords and swordsmanship for 5 years before I ever posted on BladeForums...you might try to learn something before you start typing ignorance and insults.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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:rolleyes:

Oh really? If by quoting me you mean "to physically included my post BUT somehow extracted a message that wasn't implied in the post" then yes, you quoted me.

And you still fail to show where in my post I said anything about the knife being historically accurate..."closest you can get" is far from "historically accurate"...

if you don't see a sentence addresses the absolute historical accuracy of the blade then you have drew an inference.
 
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You can always count on Mr. Garsson to chime in in any thread related to Japanese edged weapons. It seems any contextual inaccuracies rub him the wrong way.

Oh yea, best regards.
 
harkamus said:
You can always count on Mr. Garsson to chime in in any thread related to Japanese edged weapons. It seems any contextual inaccuracies rub him the wrong way.

Oh yea, best regards.
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I can relate, we all have some pet peeves.

but what I don't appreciate is even there's nothing in the original post, not even in the line he quoted, claiming this blade to be historically accurate, he still goes on and on...
 
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Rider V3

Your oeiginal post you stated something that was not true

Someone corrected you and instead of just saying well thats what the description of the knife was from where I bought it my mistake I really like my new knife thanks you want to draw out someone into an argument

Quit while your ahead and learn something

I was the first person to say I like your kwaiken remember, so not trying to pick on ya and I kinda figured the banned Samurai sword comment was gonna get ya some flack
 
JParanee said:
I kinda figured the banned Samurai sword comment was gonna get ya some flack
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That's why I fixed the original post because I know I made a mistake.

But big Garrson then brought in this historic accuracy issue that wasn't implied in my post, and I will fight it till I'm banned.
 
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Geez ... why not take the opportunity to learn a little and get over yourself. You obviously have a hate on for Mr. Garrson but now you're just starting to look silly.
 
Have it your way it's a nice place you should stick around and learn something. take it easy
 
So this is what it's all about, just bite my lips and let this Garrson draw inferences and make assumptions all he wants...
 
Buddy... you were blatantly wrong, someone pointed it out and you flew off the handle. You could've just as easily accepted your error with grace and this thread would be about your new knife. Now it's a train wreck.
 
You guys are an improbable bunch....

I made a mistake and already fixed my original post.

If you still don't see what I'm arguing about then forget it.
 
riderV3 said:
:rolleyes:

Oh really? If by quoting me you mean "to physically included my post BUT somehow extracted a message that wasn't implied in the post" then yes, you quoted me.

And you still fail to show where in my post I said anything about the knife being historically accurate..."closest you can get" is far from "historically accurate"...

if you don't see a sentence addresses the absolute historical accuracy of the blade then you have drew an inference.
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"closest you can get" is inaccurate. It's a tanto, thats about all it has in common with a traditional tanto.

There are many swordsmiths who make swords that are "closer" to the real thing than Kiku's. That doesn't take anything away from his blades because they are nice, but they are definately not "close" to a traditional sword.
 
riderV3 said:
historic accuracy issue that wasn't implied
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riderV3 said:
Just received this Kiku Matsuda tanto...

Yes tanto, not just a tanto grind, it's a tanto.

From master knifemaker Kiku Matsuda, there's not much about him, just the best knife grinder in the world who has a real samurai ancestor and a family tradition of making samurai swords for hundred of years...:D

Since the production of Samurai sword is limited this is about the closest thing you can get.

"Kamakura" is 10" with 5 1/2" blade, features OU-31 steel in Japanese Tanto shape with hamaguri-ba edge (Japanese convex grind that was used on all samurai swords).
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He comes from a family of swordsmiths.

the grind is used on all samurai swords.

It's a tanto, not a tanto grind, a tanto.

You are inferring a lot here.
 
banning katana from being produced in japan its like banning chevrolet from making cars in the states,dumb whooz
 
harkamus said:
You can always count on Mr. Garsson to chime in in any thread related to Japanese edged weapons. It seems any contextual inaccuracies rub him the wrong way.

Oh yea, best regards.
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I have stated in the past that the classic interpretations of Japanese blades are most appealing to me, because I use them.

If you cannot see what rubbed me the wrong way in this case was was solid misinformation, than you simply cannot see.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
sweet knife.. I am close to buying one of his tantos too.. Yes tanto, pick at words, who cares.. kwaiken/tanto.. SWEET BLADE jealous haters.. :) his stuff is EXPENSIVE but it's good to support ART.
 
Kohai999 said:
I have stated in the past that the classic interpretations of Japanese blades are most appealing to me, because I use them.

If you cannot see what rubbed me the wrong way in this case was was solid misinformation, than you simply cannot see.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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I can see just fine. I know what irked you. It's just that I'd hazard a guess that most people on this forum simply do not share your passion. I'd also guess that the OP really doesn't care either. He has a knife that he enjoys. Nothing more, nothing less.

Also, the thing with verbiage is that almost no two people will interpret them exactly the same way.

Finally, I'm glad we have people so well-versed in various aspects of edged implements.

Back on topic though: I've often wondered what causes that splash looking finish so prevalent on Kiku's blades.
 
harkamus said:
Back on topic though: I've often wondered what causes that splash looking finish so prevalent on Kiku's blades.
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They are either splashed with etchant, or splashed with resist, and then exposed to etchant.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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