knife destruction tests

[bodog]

A lot of folks can't stand seeing the brand they worship fail a test when a rival proves superior. Only way to justify it is to deny the importance of the test. I own all kinds and know their limitations.

I think the same thing applies to any and all knife testing. We just went round and round in a spine whacking thread because of the same thing.

 

[Woodcraft]

Very narrow definitions of survival situations, IMO. Expand and you might see how someone might find him/herself in a situation where they don't have a hatchet or any number of other "right tools for the job".

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smith...life-saving-tool-september-11-2001-180951515/

I imagine a decent knife--even the one he dropped--might have sped the process along some.

Or say a foot? Or a fist? It was 3 quarter inch sheetrock? No tool required right? Im confused? I have sheetrock in my home. I have worked with sheetrock. This exact thickness. I have children that made holes in it. How is it a grown human in an emergency situation can not kick through?

 

[pinnah]

And again if you can end up with a knife, it means you were able to bring one with you and subsequently could've brought more.

I'm sorry, but I just fail to see how anyone could end up in a survival situation with just a fixed blade and it not be their fault that they don't have more.

Weight.

Take a course in winter mountaineering.

You won't take an axe.

Probably not a fixed blade either.

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[craytab]

Weight.

Take a course in winter mountaineering.

You won't take an axe.

Probably not a fixed blade either.

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I take fixed blade and a gun wherever I guy anyway. Why would I not bring them in a survival situation in the interest of "weight"?

 

[pinnah]

I take fixed blade and a gun wherever I guy anyway. Why would I not bring them in a survival situation in the interest of "weight"?

Survival in the backcountry is about choosing the right tools for the context. When the goal of a trip to achieve some accomplishment (traverse some area, climb a peak, run a river) then the excess weight of unnecessary weight becomes a safety hazzard, not a solution.

I'm pretty sure you don't carry your gun scuba diving. Winter mountaineering is closer to scuba diving than it is to bushcraft.

But it's your pack and your life. Carry what you want.

 

[craytab]

Survival in the backcountry is about choosing the right tools for the context. When the goal of a trip to achieve some accomplishment (traverse some area, climb a peak, run a river) then the excess weight of unnecessary weight becomes a safety hazzard, not a solution.

I'm pretty sure you don't carry your gun scuba diving. Winter mountaineering is closer to scuba diving than it is to bushcraft.

But it's your pack and your life. Carry what you want.

Recreational activities are not survival. I thought this was obvious.

Though this is a great thread drift we are no longer talking about knife testing. Maybe start a different thread on anti fixed blade weight saving recreational camping :thumbup:

 

[pinnah]

Recreational activities are not survival. I thought this was obvious.

I was having a side bar with Hickory n steel. Do try to keep up.

But how in any of these situations could you end up with a fixed blade on you ?
In any situation where you could possibly end up having a fixed blade knife on you, you will have been a situation where you had the ability to personally pack what is with you.
You can't have a fixed blade on a cruise ship or airplane, so that only leaves outdoors activities such as hunting or hiking and your car where you should keep gear.

Anyways I will just never get the whole destruction test thing as all I do with my knives is cut stuff.

Though this is a great thread drift we are no longer talking about knife testing. Maybe start a different thread on anti fixed blade weight saving recreational camping :thumbup:

Similarly, if you want to talk about your EDC choices.

 

[craytab]

I was having a side bar with Hickory n steel. Do try to keep up.


Similarly, if you want to talk about your EDC choices.

Sidebar as in a pot shot at fixed blades and their weight which is not talking about the topic what-so-ever? Then you are correct

I responded to your admittedly thread drift.

Let's get back on topic. Care to elaborate on the subject of this thread? How would an opinel hold up in a destruction test? Not even a cold steel type. How about a controlled test like BM does? What about a Micra?

 

[supertac916]

I don't mind watching others destruction tests to see how the knives perform under extreme and unlikely conditions. Will I ever personally cut through windshields, steel doors, steel drums, metal rods, hit it with a sledge hammer, or flex the blade to near 90 degree angles? I sure the heck hope not because that means I put myself in a nasty situation. However, if I'm out in the backcountry backpacking weight is always a factor. Sometimes there are fire restrictions, so I don't want to bring a axe or hatchet because I probably won't use it. I usually do bring a 4-5" fixed blade and a Pocket Boy Silky for just in case, along with using it for basic camp chores. It's always good to know that the knife I'm carrying that day could do virtually anything without severe failure, since if I do find myself in trouble it will be the main tool I have on hand. May not be the ideal tool to use, but if I had too in a pinch I could use it for various purposes, and knowing it's limitations.

 

[dynamicmoves]

And what does this situation have to do with improperly using a knife ?
I would still have my edc on me ( leatherman fuse and vic recruit ) plus a 9" belt knife and my Vaughan sub zero hatchet which BTW also goes in my tackle box when I'm out fishing.

Some people may be dumb enough to let themselves end up in a survival situation with the wrong tools for the job, but I am not one of these people and will just never understand the need to see what a knife can take as for me it will never never need to take it.

Not everybody goes on a day hike with 2 multitools, a knife, a hatchet, and a tackle box.

 

[Cobalt]

Not everybody goes on a day hike with 2 multitools, a knife, a hatchet, and a tackle box.

you're right, I take a chainsaw as well

 

[palonej]

you're right, I take a chainsaw as well

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