Knife for defence against wild critters ?

Um, you don't want a knife, you want a spear. You also don't want to go lashing your knife at the end of it. Use your knife to make a spear that can double as a club. You want penetrating wounds to kill. Slashing wounds on a critter big enough to attack you are going to be a disappointment. The knife in your sheath would be a weapon of last resort.

All my opinion, of course. Me? I carry a .45...
 
how about a Rob Patton mandritta fighting bowie with 11 1/4" blade and sharpened clip. it has a true fighting balance unlike the the chopper knives. pretty cool i think
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anything made by busse really, a fusion battle mistress would be great, its large, smaller then a machete, will last a long time without being sharpened and is great for heavy work
 
That Patton bowie is really sexy! I would feel well-armed with that baby....

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If you read the articles about people that manage to kill bears and the like with knives when attacked, I think you'll find it's always by a stab (or 2 or 3). Slashing cuts against fur are probably not going to get it done, at least not fast enough to save you. Given that, I think the best knife for such a purpose would be long and narrow, double edged or at the very least having a long swedge. You need penetration, and since it might be through heavy fur, tough skin and layers of fat, I would want something 6" long minimum, 7-8" would be better. Much longer than that and there might start to be handling issues and I wouldn't want anything to interfere with the ability to use multiple hits, especially in close quarters. Last but not least, finger grooves for sure grip and at least a single, preferably a double guard.

I don't know that such a knife would be very useful in the field for much of anything else, but that wasn't the question so I'm not worried about that. :)
 
I think should the need arise you will want a .357 Magnum or a nice mid-caliber rifle, NOT a knife. Drop the 300 bucks on a snubnose taurus, you will not be disappointed. It is so nice having that peace of mind when hiking Idaho backcountry...
 
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It's gotten to the point that people only read the title of the thread before responding :rolleyes:
 
I think a spear makes a better weapon than any knife.

You could either carry a Boar Spear, made by Cold Steel, and use it as a hiking staff, or if you need to save on weight, you could carry one of their Bushman designs, and make your own spear once you're in the woods.

The Bushman could serve duty as a spear in addition to your regular gear, or as a primary knife that could be made into a spear very quickly if needed. I think it makes a great general duty camp knife and they are pretty cheap. Remember to bring a wood screw to fasten it to the pole.

As CSG said earlier (now that I've gone back and actually read the whole thread) it's a bad idea to use your primary knife as the head of a spear.
 
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A link to a fascinating story, germane to this thread as well:

Lion and a knife

I saw a picture of the knife, it looked a lot like an Old Hickory butcher-type knife in design, with more of a spear point. Here's a drawing of it:

Knife
 
I'm a big fan of the Bushman...mainly because it can be turned into a spear, but also because it seems to be so darn tough.

The woodscrew method of fixing the knife to the handle never appealed to me. Too fiddly, too slow, and it requires too much attention - plus a screwdriver.

I have a loop of cord fixed permanently to my Bushman handle. I could have simply made a tight binding around the neck of the handle, but instead I drilled a hole through the handle. Drilling the hole was not easy as the steel is very tough. I chamfered the edges of the hole to help prevent cutting the cord.

I have a 'hiking staff' cut from a tough branch. I've tapered the end of it to neatly fit into the Bushman handle. Below the tapered portion I've fastened a strong length of nylon braid. When I feel that I may need a spear, I quickly slip the Bushman on to the handle. Because the handle is 'split' and can spring open a little, the Bushman actually grabs quite well on to the staff. In an emergency I am fairly confident that I could swing my spear around without the knife flying off provided that I jammed it on with a clunk.

Once the knife is in place, I can quickly pass the cord on the stave through the loop on the knife, haul it tight, and quickly tie a hitch.

Naturally it is best to have the knife on the stick before you need a spear. And as suggested earlier, it is good if the Bushman isn't the only blade you have because if you lose your spear and all else fails you'd probably be grateful for the blade hanging on your belt.

Here is a picture that indicates how I fasten the blade. As you can see, I have cut down my Bushman to a more convenient size. Still plenty long enough for what I need, and it sits in the sheath more securely.

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That's a great story Blue Sky. Some of those hunters in Africa were really tough dudes.

An old friend of my father's was a farmer. One day when he was out on the hillside his dogs bailed a wild pig. I can't recall the exact details now, but the story goes something like this. I think the pig injured one of the dogs, which upset the man. He grabbed the rather large hog with one hand and went for his knife with the other... only to find that it wasn't there. The situation was dangerous, and if he'd let go of the pig it could have gotten worse. He knew there was a creek down the hill. He got the pig in a crush hold and rolled down the hill with it. He got to the creek and forced its head underwater until it drowned.
 
A link to a fascinating story, germane to this thread as well:

Lion and a knife

I saw a picture of the knife, it looked a lot like an Old Hickory butcher-type knife in design, with more of a spear point. Here's a drawing of it:

Knife
Read the article, wow now thats a tough guy!
This is not a knife link or specifically related to this topic but that story reminded me of another story of human toughness
http://www.sixguns.com/bunkhouse/elmer_keith.htm
specifically this part- (Excerpt) Elmer Keith:1899-1984,By John Taffin
"In 1911, Elmer was burned terribly in a hotel fire in Missoula, Montana, and carried scars for the rest of his life. An ordinary man would have died from the fire. His entire body was covered with burns and his chin was "welded" to his right shoulder with his left hand turned upside down on the back of his left wrist.

Elmer recounted this: "When we moved from Missoula back to Helena I was considerable of a wreck. My left hand was just turned upside down and back on my wrist, just a claw extended from the top of my wrist. I used to wrap a towel around it when Father sent me to school so the girls wouldn’t cringe at the sight of it. The right side of my face was all drawn down towards my shoulder, also. I was a horrible looking sight.

I told Father I had to have a left hand so I could hold a rifle and do normal things. Father contacted every doctor in Helena to try to get them to operate on the hand and break it over and straighten it out. None of them would tackle the job. They all said I would never live to be 21 anyway and they were not going to torture me any further.

Finally, I had had enough of going with only one hand, so I asked Dad if he would break it. Mother said, "Can you stand it?" I said, "I don’t know, but you can go ahead and do it anyway."

So mother got a bunch of cotton bats and gauze, soaked them in melted deer tallow, and had a lot of bandages ready. Father went down to Goodkind’s wholesale liquor store and bought a gallon of Old Granddad, 100 proof, and came home with it.

He said, "Son, do you still want to go through with it?" I said, "I do." I said "Regardless of how much I howl or pass our or whatever, get the job done. I want this hand straight whether I’ll ever be able to use it or not."

After Elmer’s Dad got him good and drunk, Elmer went on the say: "Dad put my arm on a heavy table and sat down on it with my hand between his legs. When he picked up those fingers that were doubled back of my wrist and broke them, the pain was terrific and I passed out. Father took a board he used for stretching mink and sanded it until it was smooth and slick as glass and would reach from my elbow out past my fingers. When I came to, my hand was straight. It was all laced down solid to the mink board."

Elmer’s dad had a dozed buckskin gloves made to fit his left hand, and for the next two years, Elmer wore a glove with melted deer tallow in it and forced himself to use that hand.

"In this way, I finally made a new left hand, but it was a long struggle. At first, I could hold it up to the light and see daylight between the bones right down to the palm of my hand. After a couple of years working with it every time I could and also riding broncs and pulling on the rope with that hand, I finally wound up with a pretty good hand. Even today, it’s a sorry looking hand, but it’s useful, and for a time, I even did two gun demonstrations with sixguns."
 
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It's gotten to the point that people only read the title of the thread before responding :rolleyes:

I don't understand why firearms are not an option for many people, that's all.... unless you're a felon and you are a law abiding US Citizen you have every right to own and carry a firearm for personal defense.
 
Yep, a gun is much better than a knife for this job in most circumstances. But sometimes the gun may fail to operate or simply not be available. Thus the quest for the most suitable blade.
 
I don't understand why firearms are not an option for many people, that's all.... unless you're a felon and you are a law abiding US Citizen you have every right to own and carry a firearm for personal defense.

Well, Pitdog is in Canada. Other members live in Bolshevik countries as well. Hell, some of them can't carry the larger SAKs on a daily basis <cough>England<cough>!
 
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