Knife for Iraq

God i dislike fanboys, Cold Steel knives are good, in fact a highly affordable model was tested and essentially bested a Strider knife worth 20 or so times it heres the video http://www.knifetests.com/page28.html

if you wanna see other knives brutalized including the several kabar models(including the standard) Flakniven A1, several Cold steels, SOGs, the aforementioned strider, gerbers, and much more ive forgotten http://www.knifetests.com/

That is not a scientific test by any means, its should only be viewed for entertainment purposes. Only the knifes toughness is being tested and none of the other factors that make a great knife are even being looked at.

Careful you are sounding like a fanboy your self, comparing Cold Steel to a Strider (ya like there is no bad blood between those two).

I do collect many high end knives and Strider is included in that. I also had a few CS knives when I first started collecting knives (we all have to start with the lower cost knives). The difference is I would not buy another CS and continue to buy Striders. Don't get me wrong CS's low cost knives have a niche, but claiming they are equal to a Strider is far off base. Its bad enough that CS rips off others designs but the fact they make their buyers believe they are equal quality to the original through a unique marketing style :rolleyes:.
 
God i dislike fanboys, Cold Steel knives are good, in fact a highly affordable model was tested and essentially bested a Strider knife worth 20 or so times it heres the video http://www.knifetests.com/page28.html

if you wanna see other knives brutalized including the several kabar models(including the standard) Flakniven A1, several Cold steels, SOGs, the aforementioned strider, gerbers, and much more ive forgotten http://www.knifetests.com/

How is stating facts being a fanboy? Justin (Ranger Knives) makes fantastic blades at a much lower price to anything that could be called comparable in quality by Cold STEAL.

My best friend is deploying Nov. 26 for his train up and leaves December 3rd and wont be back until January 09'. He has a Ranger RD9 that I bought for him and couldn't be more pleased with it. I highly endorse Ranger Knives, great quality, design, affordable, and made by a great guy to boot. Hard to beat the way I see it.

Thanks for your service and all the best in your search.
 
You didn't actually mention whether you wanted a fixed blade, folder or both; however, I'm amazed that so many people deployed to Iraq seem to need knives. Is there no general issue? My father has two very nice Ka-Bars that he was issued in the Pacific during World War II. He later was issued knives as an aviator, which he returned. Picking up a utility tool with a knife isn't complicated, and there are many great folders available, such as CRKT's Desert Cruiser.

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One of the toughest folders you can is the Cold Steel Recon 1. It's overbuilt in just about every way imaginable, as is the CS AK-47. Both have axis locks that will sustain 200 lbs., as well as a heavy duty frame with G10 scales. Their 4-inch black teflon-coated blades are AUS8 stainless and they come with very sharp blades. Cold Steel's Vaqueros are a great line, too. The fine serrations can be very handy, I'd think, for cutting through heavy clothing, packs and belts in emergencies. Vaqueros and Voyagers have been used to cut open crates of enemy weapons and are capable of other odd jobs that belie their size and weight. The Voyager or the Gunsite can give you a good combo of plain blade and serrations, and the Gunsite's tanto blade can let you do a bit of prying if you need it. The knife had the endorsement of the late Col. Jeff Cooper, founder of Gunsite and an articulate old leatherneck who became a legend in the firearms and self defense fields. For heavy work, the G.I. Tanto will let you cut, stab, pry almost anything, and for a very reasonable price. And of course Ka-Bars are legendary.

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I haven't been to the Devil's Sandbox, and I'm neither soldier nor ninja, but I would suggest you consider Cold Steel's SRK (Survival Rescue Knife) and their Recon Tanto. Both are excellent knives. I offered some of my knives to a good friend who was about to deploy a couple of years ago, and he chose to accept only a Mora Clipper and a small Cold Steel push dagger for a last ditch option. Later, while finishing up here in the States, he bought a standard Ka-Bar at the PX on his base.

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Cold Steel's Christmas sale flyer will be out any day. Have them add you to their mailing list ASAP. If you see what you want, act quickly! Often there are bargains to be had. If you see one marked "second" don't hesitate. Great bargains!
 
If I was going to the desert in iraq I would pack emerson cqc-11 for a folding knife.Fallkniven A2 for fixed blade.
 
While I served as a Medic I carried a Emerson CQC-7B, SOG Para-Tool, and if I needed a fixed blade, a Ontario Air Force/Survival Knife. Granted this was back from '93 to '99.

If I was in today I'd probably carry my Emerson CQC-12 or Strider SnG, and my Victorinox Spirit. No idea what fixed blade I'd go with.
 
Cold Steel's Christmas sale flyer will be out any day. Have them add you to their mailing list ASAP. If you see what you want, act quickly! Often there are bargains to be had. If you see one marked "second" don't hesitate. Great bargains!
Good advice! Their seconds are hardly even cosmetically seconds. Their flyers often have real bargains on good equipment. (NEVER buy at the inflated (MSRP) prices at the CS websites.)
 
How is stating facts being a fanboy? Justin (Ranger Knives) makes fantastic blades at a much lower price to anything that could be called comparable in quality by Cold STEAL.
Well, Ranger only sells a few knives like "Shank" and "Shiv." They really don't have anything
they can compete with of substance as far as I can tell.

BTW, are you saying that you believe Cold Steel "steals" their cusomers' money or do you
feel they're stealing designs, etc.? I've used CS's products a few years now and have felt
that they represent a good bargain for the money.
 
I think I would also recomend one of the Ranger Knives probably the RD6. I recomend this for this reason; as many have said a good multi-tool will be your best friend (my personal pic for this is the Leatherman Wave) and will take care of your main "cutting needs." Ranger's aren't what many would call a precision cutting tool but where they excel is in shear brute 1/4" thick strenght. They are what many refer to as a sharpened pry-bar, and that is something I can see being useful to you over there; esp in emergency situations like having to cut thru a car door to help free someone.

Now I'm not putting down Kabar, Cold Steel, or Fallkniven as they all produce great knives but for brute strength it's hard to imagine a Ranger knife loosing to all of the above listed like I said they are a 1/4" thick.

As far as D2 steel goes if I remeber correctly Xander you said that you are not really a "knife guy" so I would not recomend D2. Reason being yes it is a very strong steel and holds an edge well but it is also much more difficult to sharpen to a good edge because of this, esp if you are not a "knife guy" and not really adept at sharpening knives.

As far as size goes I would go with the RD6 (6" blade 11 3/4" overall.) I see this being more than sufficent for your possible needs. You don't really need anything larger as there isn't much to chop in the desert. Anything shorter won't give you too much leverage if you need to use it as a prybar. Also I think anything to much larger is going to start getting too heavy and I'm sure you are loaded down with enough gear as it is.

I hope my thoughts and opinions help you to make your decision.

Cheers
-Ronan
 
How is stating facts being a fanboy? Justin (Ranger Knives) makes fantastic blades at a much lower price to anything that could be called comparable in quality by Cold STEAL.

Well, Ranger only sells a few knives like "Shank" and "Shiv." They really don't have anything
they can compete with of substance as far as I can tell.

BTW, are you saying that you believe Cold Steel "steals" their cusomers' money or do you
feel they're stealing designs, etc.? I've used CS's products a few years now and have felt
that they represent a good bargain for the money.


Lets not take this thread there. Can we just end it and try to help Xanderom pick a knife?
 
Well, ... I've used CS's products a few years now and have felt that they represent a good bargain for the money.

I've used Cold Steel knives for more than a few years, and always with great satisfaction. All the fixed blades I've bought from them are made of their older Carbon V steel, except for the Bushman probably, and most of those I own were bought as "seconds." Their cosmetic blemishes (if any) are slight and hardly noticeable. A couple of years ago near Christmas they had a good sale on their Recon Tanto seconds. I had never owned a tanto-style fixed blade at the time, so I figured "Why not?" and ordered one. Well, when it came it was not marked as a second. I called and asked about this, and someone there told me the demand at that time was so great he thought the shipping department was sending out first quality Recon Tantos to fill orders for seconds! I quickly ordered two more, and they're all the good old Carbon V steel and appear to be first quality. The only flaw is that they had a run of sheaths with faulty snaps on the safety straps that broke after just a few cycles. I had intended to get them to send me replacements, but some health issues pushed that to the back burner and I never got to it. Last year at this time, I ordered two of their Bushman knives at a great price on their Christmas sale. I had not seen one of these prior to this, either, and I was very pleasantly surprised at their quality. Two for $30? What a deal! :D

Ooooooops... I just realized I've drug this thread waaaaaaaaaaaaay off the original topic. I'm sorry!!!
 
God i dislike fanboys, Cold Steel knives are good, in fact a highly affordable model was tested and essentially bested a Strider knife worth 20 or so times it heres the video http://www.knifetests.com/page28.html

if you wanna see other knives brutalized including the several kabar models(including the standard) Flakniven A1, several Cold steels, SOGs, the aforementioned strider, gerbers, and much more ive forgotten http://www.knifetests.com/

Let me preface by saying I`ve never been to the middle east. That being said I`ve heard quite a few guys saying that when they took CS knives over there they had problems with thier Kraton rubber handles going soft in the constant heat. Sometimes they twisted off the knives while they were being used. Other than the handle material I have no problemwith CS. I just wouldn`t say they were fine for EVERY environment.

My advice would be to check with your unit on whether or not they have size restrictions on what you can take or restrictions on the number of knives. On friend got around that by taking a cheap tomahawk.
 
I have a Recon Tanto, one of the old Carbon V models (which I gather were made by Ontario), and I love it. To be honest though, I haven't used it for anything more demanding than cutting cardboard. However, it has a pleasing heft, a comfortable and secure grip, and it is built like a brick shithouse. The powder coat finish is extremely durable. The geometry of the point is also very strong. I do have two things to point out though:

My sheath rattles. A lot. I believe this is a zytel sheath, as only the mouth of the sheath retains the blade.

Current model Recon Tantos are now AUS-8A instead of Carbon V, and I don't think Cold Steel calls anything Carbon V anymore (like it meant anything before.) I would assume that means they probably aren't being made by Ontario anymore, and thus the good news you hear about them doesn't necessarily apply anymore. I haven't heard anything BAD about the new ones, I'm just saying, it might not be the same piece.
 
Thanks for the replies so far. I'm not really sure what I'll be doing over there yet, to be honest. I'm a Cav Scout, so I'll probably do a lot of patrolling or convoy security.

Well xanderom, good luck...I'm finishing up and it's been the extended tour (14+ months). I'm a knife collector-user, so I won't go down the road of recommending some $300+ knives unless you're willing to spend that much.

I will say that given your MOS and pending duty, look for a mid-sized blade. You're probably well aware of the whole IBA and associated equipment you'll be wearing, plus the multitude of getting in and out of up-armored vehicles, helo's and fixed wing aircraft. You're not going to want a large knife that extends too far below your waist as it gets in the way and will get hung up. Hell, I saw a poor young Joe hook his chair in the DFAC and carried it about 3 feet before he turned around and it fell off. I've also seen another individual that had is drop-leg mounted KaBar get snagged exiting a Blackhawk...luckily it was more embarrassing than dangerous. Anything over 6" is going to be too cumbersome to carry in my opinion.

I've been using several knives over here...part of my own T&E. Some of the the ones I would recommend would be Ontario's RAT-5 or TAK; Mission's MPK-10A2; Ranger's RD6; Blackjack's Grunt is a very underrated blade and even though it's AUS8, it's a very well done convex grind. The MPK-10A2 is a great blade with a non-conductive handle...blade design is very good IMHO (you can get a great Mil discount from Brigade Quartermasters).

The mid-sized blades give you a decent size for both small and big tasks, but more importantly, it gives you a good size that you can wear on your IBA or even on your rigger's belt with easy access (and resheathing) without having to do yoga. If you need a bigger blade, keep it in your assault pack or in the vehicle until you need it.

Biggest issue with most of these knives is that they don't all come with a decent sheath. Normark (here on the forums) makes a great utility Kydex sheath (and even a "pair" where one can be attached to your MOLLE webbing). Kydex makes access and re-sheathing much easier, plus the inherent retention and safety makes them my top pick for this AO. Do make sure you keep them clean as dust can accumulate and scratch the hell out of the blade...not a big concern, but it's just good equipment maintenance.

My door kicking days are over, but we've supported several MiTT, MP, PSYOP, ODA's, Aviation, ENG, INF/MECH and other teams that cleared routes, patrolled, trained IP/IA's, etc. Very few carried a large blade, and most of those were the younger kids. My recommendation for blades/tools, would be

1. A good multi-tool (which looks like you have it covered)
2. A good pocket folder (probably will get the most use)
3. A mid-sized fixed blade

If you can't carry your fixed blade daily, it's probably too big. My EDC is a Mad Dog Pygmy ATAK...it's been a part of my uniform for the past 10 years. I've also carried Striders, Fehrman (the Last Chance is another top pic for high end), Busse (Natural Outlaw), Becker BK10, Chris Reeve's....bottom line, find a decent blade that's comfortable, sound design and decent steel; get a good sheath (preferably Kydex) for a complete system. Don't forget a sharpener...that's another topic for discussion, but "field" sharpening can be very simple or a little more involved. You can email me off line (AKO) if you have any other questions,

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(1) Multi tool

(2) small light one-hand-opening folder w/a clip, like a Spydie Delica -- and w/synthetic handles (no stainless b/c that's heavy and slippery and hot when it's 130 degrees!

(3) For a fixed blade, you won't use it much and when you do it will be for tasks you can't perform with the small folder; in Iraq that won't likely involve much wood-chopping. I would think tyou want to go lightweight and have some prying power. My suggestion, and what I bought for my friend who will be heading there, is a CS combat tanto, or whatever they call that Strider knock-off. Noss at knifetests.com determined that it is incredibly strong for prying/smashing, despite its thin stock and light weight. The thin stock also makes it an effective slicer, more so that the thicker knives. What I did was to (a) shorten the handle (probably more than you want to take on, but easy to do w/a dremel),
(b) replace the lame paracord wrap on the handle with a more complete wrap (this will insulate your hand from hot metal but won't get tacky like Kraton in the heat), and
(c) buy him a Spec-Ops sheath that will tie onto your gear in any conceivable manner and has a big pocket for a sharpener or your multi-tool. The sheath cost $35 and the knife was $25, and it makes a very lightweight yet super-durable and useful package.

well, that's my $.02 - there are innumerable great knives out there, but this combo seems the most practical to me.
 
Get a Cold Steel Peace Keeper 7", strong dubble razor sharp dagger ...

I use it when was in the paratroopers (Belgium) can also be used in survival situation .

Stay Safe !:thumbup:
 
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