Knife for Philmont

^^ not to be rude but how does leave no trace eliminate the need to cut fire wood?

are you seeing leave no trace as using camp stoves instead of fires?

im and eagle scout and have been in scouts pretty much all my life and i dont remember a camping trip with out a fire (or if the weather was bad at least an attempt at one untill the weather made it not worth the effort)

i see why you think boys will mess with sheath knivees but from my experances and my boredom i can say i mess around with folders much more than i would a sheath knife (espicaly in making/ figuring out how to flick out the blade or loosen the blade to be able to, etc).

-matt
 
Well, since i first started buying knives, I've loved throwing my folders... Still suck at it and wont throw my (only) nice one, but I throw everything else from my CCC 14" blade tanto to my machete or spike.
 
Seeing this makes my day. I was on Philmont, in the Valle (the north country) about six months ago..Crew 619G6, Troop 106, in Ohio. We started on the 21st of June and it was the most amazing experience I've ever had in my life..good luck on the trail, it's the greatest trip you'll ever take. I took my Spyderco Military (3-13/16" blade). This knife is incredibly light weight and is essentially a folding camp knife. I have a Scimitar and consider this product of Spyderco to be a lot superior. The Cold Steels (especially the R1) would fit your purpose fine; I used a knife a lot out there: the food packages are tough, sometimes you lose tent poles and need to make one, even toothpicks and things of that natures. I used mine to also cut things in my meals, and cut rope for things like clothes lines or a spare belt or lashing. It's always good to have a pocket knife. Have a good trek, stay safe---Philmont is amazing. If you have any other questions or maybe want some pictures if you're curious, try my email at ticktackle64@yahoo.com. Be prepared.
 
And, for the record, my Scout Troop has no regulations in place about the size of knives. Our Scoutmaster, who goes by the name of Louis Katona, gave us Cold Steel Kukhri machetes for Christmas last year, and Big Bore Blowguns from the same source this year. We also shoot trap and pistols at the local police range (he's an LEO). I carry a Cold Steel X2 for the big stuff on campouts and a ton of Spydercos (minimum blade lenght 3.5"; e.g., Chinook 2, Military, Police, Temperance, and, gulp, a CIVILIAN). No antiknife rules are resident at our Scout troop. I wouldn't mind getting more information on your trek (what section you're in can vary what knife you want to take). I plan on going back again next summer. The place is just awesome---you can't stay away.
 
dtownknifekid said:
According to my assistant scout master they are more weapon than tool, but that is bull, they may make more efective weapons but the only more effective tool is a multitool.
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You better tell him to get rid of all those terrible weapons in his kitchen.

I have been a scout leader for years, and I have never subscribed to the farcical notion that knives are capable of being good or evil. Like all inanimate objects, they only do what the human holding them does. I will allow fixed blades with my scouts, but what I allow depends entirely on the particular scout and how responsible they are. And I will discourage some "large" fixed blades that are unwieldy and useless for the tasks that they will encounter on a particular outing.
 
I went to Philmont the summer of 87 with my dad and a troop from north Louisiana. I don't recall much need for a large knife. I still have my walking stick which I picked up along the trail. On the top I carved the Tooth Of Time while I sat below and looked up at it. I was no whittler but that day it seemed like the thing to do. I think a multiblade folder of your liking would be appropriate.
 
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