No offense intended but aside from a self defense weapon or needing to open mail...how much use could a person in NYC have for a knife?Quite a different perspective when you see a farmer from Nebraska or any working class person not from a city putting knives to use.A man with bankers hands or at the most light scarring from hot Starbucks coffee has very little use for a knife.
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Knife Life - New York City
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Well, I'm not a New Yorker nor a banker, but I live in an urban/suburban area. And I find lots of daily uses for my knife(s), especially my SAK, which sees use several times a day. I suppose I could get by without it, but life would be a lot more inconvenient and difficult. I would imagine it would be the same for a self-reliant person in NYC. That kind of sounds like a question that a non-knife (or anti-knife) person might ask.
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Well the reason I ask James is I hail from a rural area of the USA and we just have different lifestyles.We use our knives for gardening,crafts,fishing,hunting,camping/hiking,some guys one blade does it all.A box cutter purpose knives serve for the supply chain and factory men/women.As a self-defense weapon though a knife just doesn't cross our minds other than a cutting tool versus an open carry firearm.It's interesting to see urban people come here and have a cautious look when they see someone carrying a small fixed blade on their belt in a grocery store.The very leftist mindset of urban areas just perceives knives as weapons and they do because there's little need for one in those areas that a U-line box cutter can't do for them.Hence there's more governmental intervention in places like NYC and California altogether.
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I agree that a lot of people nowadays view ordinary carry knives with suspicion and fear. Sometimes even an SAK(!). My dad grew up on a farm, the youngest of 8 children, and he was blue collar his whole life. I always remembered him having a pocketknife of some sort, usually a multi-bladed Camillus like a scout-type knife or 2-blade jackknife. He also used a Buck 110 as a work knife for a time as well. So I grew up viewing carry knives as tools and something to treasure, and appreciating how handy they can be.
Several Christmases ago, I gave my older brother and his wife SAK Classics, and they both still carry one. My sister-in-law recently told me she lost hers and as soon as she could, she went to Target and bought a new one. She explained that now that she realizes how useful her knife is, she couldn't be without it, wherever it's legal to have it on her.
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Several Christmases ago, I gave my older brother and his wife SAK Classics, and they both still carry one. My sister-in-law recently told me she lost hers and as soon as she could, she went to Target and bought a new one. She explained that now that she realizes how useful her knife is, she couldn't be without it, wherever it's legal to have it on her.
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So your perception of NYers are that they are all bankers or white collar folk? If so then let me enlighten you sir...
I am a native NYer and (wait for it...) NOT a banker! *Gasp*
New York consists of mostly working class people, not bankers as you believe. People working in factories, construction, retail, law enforcement, first response, art, hell, even finance. Why would someone from Nebraska need a knife more than anyone else from any other state in this country?
I cut cardboard, wood, electrical wire, rubber, zip ties, rope, twine and much more just like anyone else who owns a knife would. Hell, I even use my knife to open up the vent hole on my Starbucks lids so my venti Americano flows even faster! Self defense? Not really, good situational awareness does that for me...
Not at all offended by your post, in fact I quite enjoyed it. But your idea of a banker/NYer not really needing a knife is wrong. In fact, the 60,000 arrests a year of people being arrested by the NYPD clearly shows that even with the law prohibiting knife pocket carry in NYC, plenty of people still have a use for a knife...enough use that they disregard the law entirely.
In any case, again not offended and happily engaged in the discussion [emoji5]
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Well for starters metsfan you need to understand the difference from saying a man has 'Banker's Hands' from one saying NYC is nothing but bankers.That's an expression applied to people who prefer a non physical labor job and generally a poor outlook on working class people.Now I will admit down here there is a fair share of white collar leftists from NYC that I experienced when I came up in 1990/1991...wife was 'just dying' to seeing the place.I'm going to skip on the cultural and political matters on why you have so many arrests a year in NYC like most highly populated cities.
Concerning knives in those fields.Well in retail the majority of corporations policy is generally to issue a safety guard box cutter to employees.Law enforcement,EMT's,and firemen all carry a knife in rural and urban parts of the USA.Finance...what...a letter opener?...I suppose it counts as a knife.Someone probably wouldn't mind a slipjoint knife.In that city sorry my man-no mountains,no lakes,no forests,no cropfields,no wildlife to hunt,no backyard weeds to extract unless you go into Central Park.Someone buying a Buck 119 would be about as sensible as someone buying a log splitter for their apartment in NYC.
Concerning knives in those fields.Well in retail the majority of corporations policy is generally to issue a safety guard box cutter to employees.Law enforcement,EMT's,and firemen all carry a knife in rural and urban parts of the USA.Finance...what...a letter opener?...I suppose it counts as a knife.Someone probably wouldn't mind a slipjoint knife.In that city sorry my man-no mountains,no lakes,no forests,no cropfields,no wildlife to hunt,no backyard weeds to extract unless you go into Central Park.Someone buying a Buck 119 would be about as sensible as someone buying a log splitter for their apartment in NYC.
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So one needs mountains, lakes, forests, cropfields, etc in their area so carrying a knife is sensible? Well if so, guess my ZT 0180 and 0102 need to find a better owner...
Hey Wolf,
Yea, it's a rough go.... trains are the only way to get around! For the most part, I guess we're safe to carry. I just worry about the one time/wrong cop scenario, that will just make things difficult! I recall hearing that it could be considered a "gravity" knife if they hold the blade and flick... that'll open most knives in a heart beat.
What's good Ace..... I can be a bit a Manhattan snob! LOL all in good fun, Cheers!
BK hipster and a Mets fan! That's to strikes! LOL, thanks for the welcome!
It's a pain in the arse! You have to send it to someone in the tristate area, unless your network has another knife enthusiast, most people won't feel comfortable in having a knife shipped to their house for someone else...
Hi James, Thanks for the welcome. I too had family on the job (retired), still get my courtesy card every year! I've seen the trucks lined up all the time, driving around, even at night, must be tough!
Hi Frontier,
I get your point, however if a knife is seen as a tool, does it really matter whether its in an rural or urban setting? A gentleman carry has it role and purpose, although it won't be used as often or in the same fashion as an outdoorsman. Also, don't disregard the aspect of being an enthusiast.... We simply like knives.
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I'm not from NYC, but I am aware of the kind of BS the regular working class people go through there because of the radical minority of elected officials who hold office there. I'm not sure what your problem is Frotier76, as you seem intent in insulting and stereotyping large groups of people who are, or would be, simpathiec to our hobby.
People who live in urban areas are not ripping open packages with their teeth. Even the "bankers" might want to fix something with a SAK.
Also, before you continue to knock the good people of NYC who hate these stupid laws and being harassed by the NYPD's unconstitutional policy of "stop and frisk", check out what kniferights is doing in NYC. I'll fill you in: there is a bipartisan bill on the governors desk to fix the knife laws in NYC. This bill was past with huge majorities, and even liberal groups like the ACLU support it. There is also an active legal challenge to these laws, which will probably be ruled on if the governor goes against the will of the people.
Frotier, you come off as very short sighted and provincial. Sooo, it you're not a good old boy from the woods driving a pickup, you don't need a knife?
Here's a little news, theres more knives in the city than country because theres more people in the city and amore life going on. Big buildings are in constant renovation with companies moving in and out, businesses expanding and modifying office space, packages to open. In NYC as in my hometown of Washington D.C, there are more carpenters, sheet rock people, electricians, glaziers, and mechanics at work than in any little picturesque villa in the boondocks. trucks and busses need to be maintained, metro trains fixed, with more wire being installed than you can dream of. And there's probably more UPS and FEDEX trucks making deliveries in NYC than in your whole country.
You need to get out more!
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