Knives are not prybars!

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I'm so tired of reading about how a folder lock failed or blade broke when someone was prying with it! This is what prybars and the claw end of hammers are for! If you break your knife by prying or abuse and it breaks and your suprised...well maybe you should seek education on knives and their uses! Now in an emergency I get it but that's gonna be rare! Heck use a screwdriver if you got to. Sorry for the rant but I've just read things of this nature too much. Know your tools and what they can and can't do!
 
People can do whatever they want with their knives as far as I am concerned. I got bigger stuff to worry about.

And, I am starting to feel, with all the makers' claims of their knives being "hard use", "heavy duty", "overbuilt" etc etc, that if one buys one of those things, and it breaks, one might be, justifiably, a bit bent outta shape.
 
I'll pry with my sak and then come and start a thread to complain if I want. :rolleyes:

Seriously though people will continue to do these things as long as people and knives exist lol don't click on the thread so you won't have to read it and avoid the high blood pressure.
 
marcinek said:
People can do whatever they want with their knives as far as I am concerned. I got bigger stuff to worry about.

And, I am starting to feel, with all the makers' claims of their knives being "hard use", "heavy duty", "overbuilt" etc etc, that if one buys one of those things, and it breaks, one might be, justifiably, a bit bent outta shape.
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I see what you did there :D
 
marcinek said:
And, I am starting to feel, with all the makers' claims of their knives being "hard use", "heavy duty", "overbuilt" etc etc, that if one buys one of those things, and it breaks, one might be, justifiably, a bit bent outta shape.
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This.

I don't find people beating on folders, and expecting them to survive, surprising anymore.
 
marcinek said:
People can do whatever they want with their knives as far as I am concerned. I got bigger stuff to worry about.

And, I am starting to feel, with all the makers' claims of their knives being "hard use", "heavy duty", "overbuilt" etc etc, that if one buys one of those things, and it breaks, one might be, justifiably, a bit bent outta shape.
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Couldn't agree more. A little common sense goes a long way too.

Hmmm a shallow gap next to something I need to lift up, let me stick the tip of my knife in there and pry... NOPE.

Hmmm a sizable gap that would allow my blade to slide in all the way to the pivot... Yeah I'll pry that if I need to.

PS: I just did it with my Sebenza ;)
 
Lost Cosmonaut said:
I see what you did there :D
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Thanks! :D

I don't pry with my folders (or most of my fixed blades)...they are slicers. If I did pry and one broke, I know it would be on me.

But. I DO think makers' ad copy is giving people the expectation that their new Titanium XTreme Olympian Slab-Master folder is going to be capable of that stuff.

Its not...
 
Designed and manufactured to stand up to heavy-duty use, ... Knives are built of premium materials. The knives have earned a reputation among their devoted fans as being "built like a tank" or a "real beast" or even being—proudly—"overbuilt".
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Maybe an overbuilt beastly tank should be able to pry.
 
I agree.

I was brought up to use your knife carefully and protect your blade as much as possible.

What really kills me is all the talk about hard use and batoning in a survival situation. In a true survival situation the very last thing I want to do is dull my blade and not be able to resharpen it.

You better believe I would be very careful to preserve my edge and avoid unnecessary abuse.

I use my all my knives, but as cutting instruments only. I carry a multitool in addition to my knife everyday for the purpose of prying and cutting wire etc...

But I must admit the knife world would be pretty boring without all the torture test and hypotheticals we read about on BF. I certainly do enjoy reading about that stuff and watching the videos, some of it just makes me cringe.
 
This is a folding beast designed for the real hard work! ... is production version of ... but still embodies the maximum strength and reliability, all parts of this knife were created to withstand the maximum possible load.
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I guess its all how you are supposed to take "maximum possible load."
 
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Negative pressures on the lock produced, for example, by prying, digging, piercing or even abusive spine whacks are redistributed because the stop pin receives the forward pressure from the rocker and transfers it into the liners protecting the rocker and its pivot from failing
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Here's one that says not only is prying OK, but so is abusive spine whacking!
 
Broken a few tips. Probably will break a few more.
It's not a hard fix.

Besides, it's my damn knife, I'm going to use it how I please.
 
I don't usually pry. If I do though, and the knife is a folder, I hold the knife by the bottom of the blade on the tang with two or three fingers. Prying from there instead of from the handle will put the pressure on the blade instead of the pivot, which is much stronger and unlikely to break. It'll still bust if you're prying really hard though of course.
 
This is why I keep a little keychain prybar and a Leatherman Squirt on my keys. A knife is a tool, but it is not the only tool you need. :thumbup:
 
I think it is interesting to hear how guys break their knives. I just try to learn from it and get a laugh here and there.
 
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