Knives Illustrated Trivia question

HI Karl,

Note that you used a "lower case" "i" spelling Infantryman.

In fact the correct spelling is Infantryman.

What one person catches when proof reading will differ from another due to their background. ...

:D

Huh? "Proof reading" (sic) is not the same as editing. Moreover, "spell check" is not a substitute for editing or proofreading. My reading of KI, since Bruce became its editor, is that KI appears to rely on "spell check." What I find is that the sentence I read had words spelled correctly, but the sentence, itself, made no sense. Moreover, I lost trust that even the technical stuff was accurate. I used to prefer KI over Blade, no more.

Paul:grumpy:
 
HI Paul,

My point was if someone is going to point out that someone misspelled a word...then when they misspell one...someone should point that out.

Neither spelling error was egregious nor done with malice.

My wife does advertising for both KI and Blade. Ad work that is submitted to her often contains a spelling error or two. Many of the articles I have written for both magazines occasionally have a misspelled word. Usually it is my slaughter of the grammar that draws the ire of the English majors who read my articles. LOL :D

As a former "Infantryman" I was just having some fun with Karl.
 
So actually, I DIDN'T misspell anything. I did use an "i". My letters were correct.
From one case to another is more along the lines of a typographical error in missing the "SHIFT" button.
Just having fun.
 
Paul (blade5) took the words right out of my mouth.
KI has really gone down the last couple of years.
I will not re subscribe. I have a feeling that the
magazine will not be around much longer.

Hi Ralph.
Just curious as to why the feeling that the magazine is doomed? Just because of the editing and mistakes or is there more?

Though I certainly don't agree with everything that's in the knife publications or every choice of article, I support every one I can as my personal opinion is that the collectible knife community is certainly far better off in having them than not.
I'm actually surprised in how many true knife enthusiasts I know who don't subscribe to the knife publications.
 
HI Paul,

My point was if someone is going to point out that someone misspelled a word...then when they misspell one...someone should point that out.

Neither spelling error was egregious nor done with malice.

My wife does advertising for both KI and Blade. Ad work that is submitted to her often contains a spelling error or two. Many of the articles I have written for both magazines occasionally have a misspelled word. Usually it is my slaughter of the grammar that draws the ire of the English majors who read my articles. LOL :D

As a former "Infantryman" I was just having some fun with Karl.

Hi Les and Karl,

Clarity is always good. I have rarely found spelling errors to have been made with malice. I, too, sometimes find spelling errors and grammatical mistakes in Blade, but in KI, they have become so prevalent that one can find them of practically every page. Les, I will miss reading your articles. As a former artilleryman, I took no offense with Karl's lower case, just funning both of you.

Paul :D
 
I have to admit I stopped buying KI. Ahern's articles make my hair loss rate increase by the handful, the layout is terrible, and I have seen 4 nearly exactly the same photos take up 50% of a 2-page spread on one knife.

It's a shame because I like some of the columns but I just can't justify it anymore.
 
Good thing your on your toes Karl!!:thumbup:


Thanks, Ricky!
I knew you'd back me up!
(Actually it's ..."you're" on your toes." The contraction of "you are".)
This is too much.
Where were we?
Oh, yeah - it was just a trivia question to break some of the monotony.
 
the government style book does not support the capitalization of infantryman

frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=2008_style_manual&docid=f:chapter3.wais

from section 3.17 U.S. Army: the Army; All-Volunteer Army; the Infantry; 81st Regiment;
Army Establishment; the Army Band; Army officer; Regular Army
officer; Reserve offi cer; Volunteer offi cer; but army shoe;
Grant's army; Robinson’s brigade; the brigade; the corps; the
regiment; infantryman


all the way back to 1915

http://books.google.com/books?id=rc...e&q=infantryman should be capitalized&f=false


not that i care that much as i never capitalize things online anyway :)
 
Hi Karl,

So actually, I DIDN'T misspell anything. I did use an "i". My letters were correct.

If you spelled Utah as utah on a spelling test as a kid you would have gotten a red check next to the answer. Yes you used the right letters, however you didn't capitalize the first letter.

Bandaid, I wasn't in the Army in 1915. I can tell you that during my time at Fort Benning (home of the Infantry) and Fort Campbell (home of the 101st Airborne (Air Assault) Division. In any reports or papers I wrote (and they were numerous) Infantry and Infantryman were spelled exactly that way.

Perhaps in the last 15 years they have reverted back to infantryman. Although I doubt it (check out the link to the Army website I posted earlier).
:D

PS, that "government style" book was probably written by a civilian. LOL :D
 
Karl,

As a former 11B40 in RVN, I agree with Les. It is spelled Infantryman.

Jim Treacy
 
I'm actually surprised in how many true knife enthusiasts I know who don't subscribe to the knife publications.

How about knifemakers? I let my subscription to Blade stop years ago, and I've never subscribed to KI. Don't get Tactical Knives either. I'm about as realistically enthusiastic about hand made knives (since that's how I make a living) as anybody else.

And as for KI's poor copy editing, they were doing a bad job of it years ago. It doesn't seem to have caused its demise after all these years, so it's not likely to do it in the near future.

David, who is about to head back to the shop to enthusiastically work on a knife!
 
I'm actually surprised in how many true knife enthusiasts I know who don't subscribe to the knife publications.

How about knifemakers? I let my subscription to Blade stop years ago, and I've never subscribed to KI. Don't get Tactical Knives either. I'm about as realistically enthusiastic about hand made knives (since that's how I make a living) as anybody else.

And as for KI's poor copy editing, they were doing a bad job of it years ago. It doesn't seem to have caused its demise after all these years, so it's not likely to do it in the near future.

David, who is about to head back to the shop to enthusiastically work on a knife!

David, I define a Knife Enthusiast as anyone (collector/user/dealer/maker/etc.) who is enthused about knives. ;) :)

But to my original point I'm especially surprised that knifemakers who make and sell knives for a living don't spend about $19 a year on a Blade Magazine subscription. Regardless of whether a maker likes the magazine or not, it's promoting and progressing custom knives thus contributing to his/her potential for livelihood.
 
Hi Karl,



If you spelled Utah as utah on a spelling test as a kid you would have gotten a red check next to the answer. Yes you used the right letters, however you didn't capitalize the first letter.

I would have got a red check, but NOT for misspelling.
My initial post was for misspelling, not typos, grammar, punctuation, etc.
 
David, I define a Knife Enthusiast as anyone (collector/user/dealer/maker/etc.) who is enthused about knives. ;) :)

But to my original point I'm especially surprised that knifemakers who make and sell knives for a living don't spend about $19 a year on a Blade Magazine subscription. Regardless of whether a maker likes the magazine or not, it's promoting and progressing custom knives thus contributing to his/her potential for livelihood.

I totally agree, Kevin.
 
We have knife enthusiasts who make their living in this business and do not read EVERYTHING they can get their hands on?

We have people who cancel subscriptions or refuse to read a magazine over a misspelled word?

We have people in our industry who say they don't read KI, but still, years later, feel compelled to comment about a magazine, by their own admission, they no longer read?

And because of a misspelled word or a grammar mistake or two we have people within our industry who wish the demise of a publication that promotes their industry?

Is just me, or is this as stupid as it sounds?
 
Calm yourself, Bruce!

We have knife enthusiasts who make their living in this business and do not read EVERYTHING they can get their hands on?

Yep, it's true. Here's my reason. After a few years of the same recycled stuff, the same "HOT" makers over and over again, and nothing of real substance to me as a veteran full time knifemaker, why should I keep reading it? Just to look at the ads of other makers, and see pictures of the factory knives I really have no interest in? I am also a maker of some of the finest fountain pens on the planet, and I don't subscribe to Pen World, Stylus, or Penna either. It's because I don't need to see another Montblanc or Visconti or Parker pen ad to do what I do. It's pointless to keep reading something if A. it doesn't serve you as a professional, and B. you don't like it.
We have people who cancel subscriptions or refuse to read a magazine over a misspelled word?

Bruce, KI had spelling and grammar problems several years ago, and it's obvious that it hasn't changed. It's unprofessional and sloppy. Of the pen and motorcycle magazines I've read, I rarely see the same kind of mistakes. What if I gave one of my knives a sloppy finish, or gaps in the handles? Nobody is expecting perfection, but when an ordinary Texas hick like me can find lots of spelling errors, a professional journalist certainly should.

Don't worry though. I doubt KI will see a large drop in subscriptions. Most people are used to it, and the others are just venting here.

And I don't refuse to read KI, Blade, and TK. I've occasionally looked at them at the news stand, and have bought them when I found something of interest.

We have people in our industry who say they don't read KI, but still, years later, feel compelled to comment about a magazine, by their own admission, they no longer read?

You mean that we who don't read KI can't comment on a thread on this forum to which we do subscribe about why we don't read it? I don't think you own any of my knives, and you've certainly not purchased any from me recently, but if I post pictures of one here on BF I think it would okay for you to comment on it. BF is, after all, a discussion forum.

And because of a misspelled word or a grammar mistake or two we have people within our industry who wish the demise of a publication that promotes their industry?

I think that you'll find that the vast majority don't want KI to fail, but I'm sure a lot wish it was edited in a better manner.

Is just me, or is this as stupid as it sounds?

No. I've found this thread interesting. I suspect others have as well.

And Kevin, you're saying that I should buy magazines I don't like and don't find particularly useful to my business just because they promote knives? (Neither KI or Blade promote just custom knives, but knives in general.) If I follow your logic I must take every knife, every pen, every motorcycle (because I've made a few custom MC parts), every furniture (because I've made damascus parts for custom furniture), and every jewelry (because I've made a few pendants and earrings) magazine that's out there just because they promote those things, even though they may never cover the things I make! I can forget about making that damascus barrel for my High Standard!

David
 
David, I define a Knife Enthusiast as anyone (collector/user/dealer/maker/etc.) who is enthused about knives. ;) :)

But to my original point I'm especially surprised that knifemakers who make and sell knives for a living don't spend about $19 a year on a Blade Magazine subscription. Regardless of whether a maker likes the magazine or not, it's promoting and progressing custom knives thus contributing to his/her potential for livelihood.

And Kevin, you're saying that I should buy magazines I don't like and don't find particularly useful to my business just because they promote knives? (Neither KI or Blade promote just custom knives, but knives in general.) If I follow your logic I must take every knife, every pen, every motorcycle (because I've made a few custom MC parts), every furniture (because I've made damascus parts for custom furniture), and every jewelry (because I've made a few pendants and earrings) magazine that's out there just because they promote those things, even though they may never cover the things I make! I can forget about making that damascus barrel for my High Standard!

David

David,
In addition to my belief that one should reciprocate in supporting an entity that helps to support them, I'm convinced that the more a businessman or business owner knows about his business or trade and the more he knows about what's happening in his industry the more successful he will be.

If you re-read my post, I think you will agree that I was not singling you out but commenting on knifemakers in general.
It could be that you have reached such a level that you could not possibly benefit from anything in knife publications. If that's the case then I congratulate you sir.

If I may ask you a question? Do you believe that knife publications and
custom knife organizations which work to promote interest in knives and to bring in new and sustain existing collectors do in fact help increase a knifemaker's sales thus livelihood?
 
I'll bet the five Mastersmiths, their clients, and any other makers covered in the latest KI are quite happy to be exposed. They will benefit from good karma. ;)

Kevin, I hear you. David, I hear you too. I agree with some of your points and don't agree with others.

Every time one of my clients gets their knife photograph published in KI, I smile knowingly. Same with Blade, Knife World, Tactical Knives et al....

Thing is, the bulk of my success is found on my participation in the forums. The publications are an added bonus. And then again having that tiny little credit line may send a caller my way.

I think Knives Illustrated serves the industry quite well. Viva la Enthusiaste!

Coop
 
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