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I got there latest catalog last week, and it should be my last since I asked to be taken off there mailing list. I don't wish to get a catalog with that many chinese knives in it, esp when they are on the cover.
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Knives Made in China thoughts?
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I got there latest catalog last week, and it should be my last since I asked to be taken off there mailing list. I don't wish to get a catalog with that many chinese knives in it, esp when they are on the cover.
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Lol. For part 2 you must have no clue. Most people in the knife production business in America are actually proud of what they are making.
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To those of you who say you do not or will not buy Chinese products , you will and you already have bought Chinese products many time over , don't worry too much though as you have little choice in the matter. Except when it comes to certain products like knives.
Somehow , America is still in the game when it comes to making knives and there you can exercise your buying freedoms.
There are high quality knives coming from China as of late. AG Russel is having some wonderful slipjoints manufactured over there , for starters.
Personally , I buy what I like.
That means I buy American and foreign when and how it suits me.
Tostig
Somehow , America is still in the game when it comes to making knives and there you can exercise your buying freedoms.
There are high quality knives coming from China as of late. AG Russel is having some wonderful slipjoints manufactured over there , for starters.
Personally , I buy what I like.
That means I buy American and foreign when and how it suits me.
Tostig
Personally I do not consider where the knife is made only the quality.
I have favorite knives made in the US as well as some favorite Chinese ones. All great quality.
It is all in the quality a company ask from the workers not the place where they are made.
I have favorite knives made in the US as well as some favorite Chinese ones. All great quality.
It is all in the quality a company ask from the workers not the place where they are made.
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I buy knives based on my tastes and their quality, not based on a political agenda.
As it happens Chinese knives are rapidly rising in quality.
Frankly the fit an finish of many of my Chinese knives equals or exceeds that of my knives made in the USA, Japan or Taiwan. And I'm not talking about cheap stuff. Spyderco, ZT and soforth.
People who think they are making a measurable change to global economics with their choice of pocket knives are hopelessly naive.
As it happens Chinese knives are rapidly rising in quality.
Frankly the fit an finish of many of my Chinese knives equals or exceeds that of my knives made in the USA, Japan or Taiwan. And I'm not talking about cheap stuff. Spyderco, ZT and soforth.
People who think they are making a measurable change to global economics with their choice of pocket knives are hopelessly naive.
There are too many good knives from too many countries. Opinel from France, Lion Steel from Italy, EKA and Mora from Sweden, Mcusta from Japan -- and Spyderco, Case, Buck, Kershaw etc from the US. China is trying to join the club in a fairly typical way for Asian manufacturers: start with lower quality, high volume products, then work your way up if the market is there.
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That attitude could have accomplished something several years ago if everyone else did the same. But that horse has kicked down the barn door, jumped the corral fence, and disappeared over the hill.
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When it comes to knives that horse will never get out of the barn of bh49, mine, or MANY others
Its not all about "accomlishing" something.
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I suggest staying on topic.
There will no more warnings on this issue.
If you do not have the self discipline to keep politics out of the General discussion forum, I will be glad to try and help develop it the hard way.
We have a political forum here. No one's hands are tied. Otherwise this is a knife forum.
That includes the subtle references too. It is simple - just do not go there in the discussion forums.
There will no more warnings on this issue.
If you do not have the self discipline to keep politics out of the General discussion forum, I will be glad to try and help develop it the hard way.
We have a political forum here. No one's hands are tied. Otherwise this is a knife forum.
That includes the subtle references too. It is simple - just do not go there in the discussion forums.
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Interesting point. I'd like to know more about knives that are not merely manufactured in China, but are traditionally Chinese and are of high quality. Like Opinel is to France, Victorinox is to Switzerland, Buck is to USA, etc... kind of like the 'WR Case & Sons' of China, so to speak. There must be some sort of equivalent....
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Here are my thoughts: The knives are pretty darn good, especially for the dough, and easily rival and exceed stuff double the cost.
The real problem is what you do when you buy a wide variety of them, but only decide on keeping a couple which fit your ergos and sense of style. You can't trade these things for your life, even in bunches. Can't really resell them, either. Even the ones that are discontinued are hard to resell because of perceived value, even though they're worth more than you paid for them to begin with. So... That's the worst part about them.
The real problem is what you do when you buy a wide variety of them, but only decide on keeping a couple which fit your ergos and sense of style. You can't trade these things for your life, even in bunches. Can't really resell them, either. Even the ones that are discontinued are hard to resell because of perceived value, even though they're worth more than you paid for them to begin with. So... That's the worst part about them.
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The key is the quality control (QC), the Chinese companies just make whatever they are told to make, even for American companies, so if they want a higher QC level, they will make that way (like for Spyderco and Kershaw etc.), or if that an order from Walmart..... you know what they will make...
Except for the first post, and Esav's warning, I haven't read any of this so I might be posting what has been posted already. Just thought I would throw that disclaimer out there.
China, being the emerging economy that it is, is improving their manufactured goods, and have to to remain competitive. This also includes their knife manufacturing. Atm, we are buying knives that may double in price down the road. Being the global market we are, I don't have a problem with buying Chinese knives when the quality is there.
I have 5 Chinese made knives; Hammer Brand, Steel Warrior, Boker Plus, and AG Russell, and all of them exhibit great fit/finish, came with razor sharp blades, are tight where they should be, and smooth where they should be.
As far as AG Russell goes, I doubt he would ever put his name on a product of shoddy manufacture, and with his Chinese made knives, he hasn't. I have the 2010 Texas Commerative folder from him, and out of the box it was perfect. Razor sharp, centered blade, excellent fit/finish. What more could you ask for in a knife. These are things most of us look for in our knives to gauge the quality of them.
I'm sure that if you want a knife that will sell for $1.99 then you will get a $1.99 knife (and it will probably be a wreck waiting to happen) from any manufacturer, foreign or domestic.
These are just my views, and I am sure that not all will see things this way. But hey, that's alright, as we all have our personal opinions!:thumbup:
China, being the emerging economy that it is, is improving their manufactured goods, and have to to remain competitive. This also includes their knife manufacturing. Atm, we are buying knives that may double in price down the road. Being the global market we are, I don't have a problem with buying Chinese knives when the quality is there.
I have 5 Chinese made knives; Hammer Brand, Steel Warrior, Boker Plus, and AG Russell, and all of them exhibit great fit/finish, came with razor sharp blades, are tight where they should be, and smooth where they should be.
As far as AG Russell goes, I doubt he would ever put his name on a product of shoddy manufacture, and with his Chinese made knives, he hasn't. I have the 2010 Texas Commerative folder from him, and out of the box it was perfect. Razor sharp, centered blade, excellent fit/finish. What more could you ask for in a knife. These are things most of us look for in our knives to gauge the quality of them.
I'm sure that if you want a knife that will sell for $1.99 then you will get a $1.99 knife (and it will probably be a wreck waiting to happen) from any manufacturer, foreign or domestic.
These are just my views, and I am sure that not all will see things this way. But hey, that's alright, as we all have our personal opinions!:thumbup:
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As far as I can tell the only reason for buying a Chinese knife is cost. There are plenty of other countries that make inexpensive knives including the good ol
U.S.A. My personal preference is to buy American whenever possible even if the cost is slightly higher. Call it pride if you like. There are many reasons not to
buy Made In China products but my biggest reason is doing my part to support my fellow countryman. All for one and one for all.
Jeff
U.S.A. My personal preference is to buy American whenever possible even if the cost is slightly higher. Call it pride if you like. There are many reasons not to
buy Made In China products but my biggest reason is doing my part to support my fellow countryman. All for one and one for all.
Jeff
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For a country where BMW and Audi set up plants to build cars , I doubt it would be much of a challenge for them to produce some decent knives. Correct me if i'm wrong but last time I checked, this is a country that is planning to put a man on the moon by 2020
In my opinion, the reason behind so many junk knives coming from China is simply supply and demand. Being the factory of the world, China will continue to churn out whatever goods the marker demands, in this case, cheap knives. Lets face it, not many people will pay hundreds for knives.
Quality knives (except kitchen knives) which we discussed here is simply a niche market, and even more so in China, where the government has strict regulation over knives, if I'm not wrong. Producing goods for a niche market simply does not fit into the business model of most Chinese companies, where the mass market is way more profitable.
In my opinion, the reason behind so many junk knives coming from China is simply supply and demand. Being the factory of the world, China will continue to churn out whatever goods the marker demands, in this case, cheap knives. Lets face it, not many people will pay hundreds for knives.
Quality knives (except kitchen knives) which we discussed here is simply a niche market, and even more so in China, where the government has strict regulation over knives, if I'm not wrong. Producing goods for a niche market simply does not fit into the business model of most Chinese companies, where the mass market is way more profitable.