Knives on "Doomsday Preppers" - Holy Cow !

A short "article" about the guy mentioned in the OP and my reply.

Or better yet, a video from the show that starts right when he is showing off his knives.

Mall Ninjas are truly masters of disguise.

LOL I just watched the clip, I gotta say for a bunch of hunks of 440 steel they got some potential, I recognized the "Klingon" knife as a Kit Rea, pretty cheap junk but if he's not looking to shave something, or cut paper, or have the ability to cut anything, then those are some pretty usefull pig stickers, except when they get caught on a piece of clothing, or flesh, or....yes anything.....I guess if it was for a one use one stab....damn it.....thats what I get for trying to be positive :/
 
Some people are nucking futs. What can you do but smile and know that should there be an emergency they will be SOL. Tin Knives.....
 
Somehow, I got on the catalog mailing list of every "mall-ninja-super-warrior-wannabe-company" in America. Looks like the guy in the video is on the same list.

When I explained to my son why I got a BK-11 (one of the knives I rotate through my B.O.B.), he started really paying attention to tools & outdoor equipment. I got him a him a Becker BK-13, and he loves it.

Between the BK-13 and the experience he's had from 5+ years of Scouting, I can honestly say that - IMHO - my son is better prepared than that firefighter. Kind of sad, really. :(

~Chris
 
I watched the 1st episode & couldnt watch anymore.i could find better ways to spend $450,000 than build a bunker!i hope nothing happens,just so all their time & effort was a waste,with these simulated drills & nonsense. theres people in lebanon & the middle east in the middle of thousands of years of kaos & unstability,& they arent doing this.i can see having some supplies in case of a disaster,but this is crazy. if your going to spend all your time just preparing for an event,your just wasting just enjoying life that is good right now.
 
In my childhood - the latter fifties - they were fallout shelters. Last area I lived in around NYC was Bayside, LI - just outside of the H-bomb fireball the CD flicks heralded - it was '60-'61 - I remember Kruschev going out to the Ruskie ambassador's digs on the LIE in front of our apartment - he had taken off his shoes at the UN. It was a heck of a time to grow up - then.... Vietnam! The neatest shelter I ever saw was an old ham radio operator's cinder block/poured concrete shelter in his basement's corner here in Birmingham back in the early sixties. He had storage - and a desk full of ham gear... and one chair. He also kept his Playboy stash in there. I'm not so sure I'd want to survive the apocalypse those preppers are expecting - especially if it's just the usual prepper-babes afterwards! The guy with the flooded underground shelter was funny.

My old fiberglass brief case has important papers and some B.O.B. goodies - including the LMFII my son gave me... I figure no one will see it there, so no embarassment. Besides, the BK2 is too useful to stow away like that.

Of course, I am preparing for the real future problem... ZOMBIES! What about the 'Knives of "The Walking Dead" series'?? I can't wait for season 3...

Stainz
 
Those knives featured with the NY Firefighter are not actually knives. You may prefer to refer to them as "knifelike objects.
 
Wife and I could be called "preppers" and, I suppose, we could be called "hoarders."

Or we could simply be called "prudent." I see no need to put any spin on the frame of reference, but then I don't have any particular axe to grind, either.

We take a few bucks out of every shopping trip and pick up a little "just in case" food. Gas just went up another $0.15 in our neck of the woods. Kick it up high enough, and shipping costs will go up, a certain number of long haul truckers won't be able to sustain their business, deliveries will be impacted, and the price & availability of groceries will be affected.

Every item of groceries that we buy today -- at today's prices -- is an item for which we won't have to pay tomorrow's prices. Consider it a form of insurance. I could put my money in the bank, and "hoard" it there (at < 1% return), or put it into stuff I will need anyway, at (currently) a 15% or better return. Hey, a 15% or better return is smart investing.

The down side, of course, is that it's not terribly portable.

There's another "value store" item that I "hoard" against diminished currency value, and it's not gold or silver: I keep a supply of inexpensive but decent quality knives on hand. Under the right conditions, a fair quality pocket knife or a good general purpose fixed blade can have a sort of "currency" value. These aren't as portable as folding money -- or even PM coins -- but they're more portable than ten pounds of grain or a gallon of liquid.

Nothing that I can buy today, except -- ironically -- electronics, will cost less tomorrow than it does today. Food goes up, fuel goes up, hardware and dry goods go up. Fuel is hard to store and is not portable. Food stores better and is somewhat more portable. Tools -- specifically knives -- are even more portable and have no shelf life.

Some people will "hoard" money, or gamble it in the Wall Street casino. Others will convert it to tangible goods whose value will not decline in an inflating market. I've heard objections to storing physical objects (such as food) because "they can come and take it from you." And that may be so . . . but "they" can take your investments and your money's value without so much as showing up in your neighborhood. I know this from hard personal experience. Ask me sometime about the best way to lose $150k of your cash money by putting it into a house -- you know, that secure investment, home ownership -- only to have the bank tell you afterwards that all the value you thought you'd built has evaporated in a cloud of "market" smoke. We would have been better off if we'd done the "irresponsible" thing and bought up-market cars with it.

However, if we'd taken that cash -- all $150k of it -- and bought a stash of quality knives, we wouldn't have lost a dime of our value.

Of course, then we'd be hoarders.

And that would be bad.

 
ArfinGreebly:

I like that part of your story involving knives as a tradeable item as I too believe that they can and will be somewhat a valueable trade/barter item if something serious happens. I figured that alot of people that dont carry knives, might end up needing one so they would be good to barter. I always try to think of other EDC type items that would make good bartering items!

For the record, I am not a prepper but I did stash away alittle silver, in case I need some for trading / purchasing items I need.

I dont have a hundred knives but I do have more than I have people in my house!! :)
 
I think the guy on one of the shows who was stockpiling liquor as a future exchange item has the right idea. Things like liquor and ammunition will become currency in a post-apocalyptic world.
 
I think the guy on one of the shows who was stockpiling liquor as a future exchange item has the right idea. Things like liquor and ammunition will become currency in a post-apocalyptic world.

Another one might be tobacco!
 
I think the guy on one of the shows who was stockpiling liquor as a future exchange item has the right idea. Things like liquor and ammunition will become currency in a post-apocalyptic world.

And he can have a crap load of fun if it doesn't work.
 
I remember on 1 of the first episiodes the guy was showing his bug out bag and he had one of those $10 survival knives that they sell at Harbor Freight Tools. LOL
 
Never seen an episode but have told you exactly what others here are saying, that NatGeo seeks to frame them all as idiots, incompetents, nut jobs, etc. It is how the media operates they attempt to stereotype everyone that disagrees with their point of view or with any point of view that they don't 100% totally agree with, then they crack others for stereotyping people. Classic, I wouldn't even be surprised if some or the majority of the people they profile are actors and most if not all of the reality show like most of the other reality shows are just scripted. NBC, got caught a long time ago lying about the exploding gas tank expose they did, now just this week their apologizing for the T. Martin coverage, Dan Rather got caught forging documents to try and throw a presidential election for petes sake, the list goes on.

I've got a friend that watches it and he tells me that they always ask the people what they are prepping for and the ones that tell the cameraman or whoever for the collapse of the dollar or economic collapse that the cameraman or host always says something along the lines of "you know that is never going to happen here, right". The show is obviously pushing an agenda as others here have somewhat eluded to but probably haven't gone as far as I have with my post here.

Thats the whole point of the knife fighting fire man with the mantis or bud k collection, just to cast all knife owners, gun owners and preppers in a bad light. Stop watching. What is note worthy is the fact that so many people are scared witless right now and legitimately prepping for one thing or another. I know more people prepping and doing little things that they never used to do, like keeping bottled water on hand, buying a little extra ammo, keeping their pantries well stocked, etc. than ever before and I also know a whole lot of people that flat out are sure enough prepping for the big one, whatever it may be. Most people though that I encounter think that the dollar is going to collapse or that our economy will, whats the difference really.

Sorry about getting off topic.
 
that nyc fire fighter is an idiot. If guns are illegal in his city then he should get illegal guns from the black market because there wont be laws in a SHTF scenario.
 
Yup, Nat Geo has slumped to a new low, IMHO. Making people who think differently look like idiots. I am 48 & can remember my parents canning food from the garden & storing it on shelves in the basement. They were not "labeled" as "preppers". When we had the Blizzard of 77 & were without transportation for 2 weeks (because we were snowed in w/20' drifts), we ate just fine. I walked down to the farm down the road for milk. We were warm & full, like a normal day. How many now can go 2 weeks without needing to go to the store for something ? Not many.

I think Nat Geo would be much better off doing shows on storm shelters that NORMAL people can afford, seeing as so many are killed & injured by tornadoes. But that would mean actually helping people-----not using people who just lost everything for their next "special". Yeah, like thats gonna happen. Sad.
 
Some of the most amazing preppers are marines. I have a friend who owns 3 trauma bags with enough stuff to do heart surgery as well as a safe full of weapons and three crates of gear. Literal crates. I thought I was prepared until I meet this guy haha. All I'm saying is that id rather be prepared and nothing happen then something happen and not be prepared. case in point, I carry a 5.11 shoulder bag downrange with handwarmers, gloves, extra earpro, binos, pencil pen and red marker, write in the rain pad, microfiber towel, sun screen, gerber multitool, zt 0200, paracord, electrical tape, CLP, otis cleaning kit, ans extra safety glasses. Believe it or not I've used all of this on a daily basis. Well the days I decided not to bring it downrange after 2weeks solid of non use. Everyone and there mom is asking me for stuff that would be in my bag.
 
I agree with MikeC ^ and CalBearTac
The media is full of poop.
I live by the day and I'm financially stupid. Not stupid enough to drown in debt, but not wise enough to prep either.
If someone is crazy enough to make something happen on Dec. whatever, then I'll stick with my family and go at it with the same mentality. And I would hate to trade my knives for anything.
 
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