Knives, Sheeple and Trouble

sorry simply can't relate. years ago after i graduated high school took a job working in a wally world distribution center (driving a forklift opening boxes, etc.)(most humiliating time in my life!) talk about being a sheep! anyway, we were encourged to carry a knife to open boxes. any time i'm around anyone without a knife they know to ask me for gun or knife. where do these people live you all speak of?
just simply show them the law and they will shut up!! I've had do do that with a couple of employers- though it had nothing to do with knives.
 
skimmerhorn said:
where do these people live you all speak of?
just simply show them the law and they will shut up!! I've had do do that with a couple of employers- though it had nothing to do with knives.
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They live in many places, and many times are the boss.
Just because YOU haven't encountered something, does not mean it does not exist.
If we ONLY believed in or learned from our own experiences, we'd suck as a species.
It has been the ability to learn and adapt from our own experiences AND those of others which have led humans to great things.
And belittling your fellow knife enthusiasts doesn't seem productive in any sense, unless you just like to piss people off.
By the way, check out the laws in some states; they vary greatly between states.
And telling your boss to shut up usually leads to chronic unemployment or a series of crummy jobs, even when the law IS on your side. Unless you're independently wealthy or don't mind living at the poverty line all the time, it's not a good practice.:cool:
 
What is odd is that I carry a number of knives during the week. I once pulled out my Spydie Delica and got wide eyed comments about weapons etc. On another occassion I pulled out my ProTech Tantilla which is an Out The Front auto, albeit less than 2 inches and they didnt even seem to notice. Size seems to be a big factor in the freak out factor.
 
skimmerhorn said:
iv'e traveled all over this country. always with a knife. never once have i had a problem. just thought it was always normal. if someone did say something i would tell them where to shove their ignorant flesh. maybe it's attitude! if the sheep know you don't care then they can save themselves from being insulted. do not conform!! my family buys me knives and guns.
i honestly cannot believe the mentality i've read in this thread. what is everone so afraid of? someone please explain!
if someone dosen't like it simply tell you do not care.
i've been doing it since i was 5!! pissed on home plate during a state softball tourney cause' my mom said i couldn't go on the field. did it anyway. one of the funny family stories!
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Do any of that travel by air?

Next time you're in the big city you might consider bringing a big sack full of uppercase letters back to Montana with you.
 
akadave2 said:
What is odd is that I carry a number of knives during the week. I once pulled out my Spydie Delica and got wide eyed comments about weapons etc. On another occassion I pulled out my ProTech Tantilla which is an Out The Front auto, albeit less than 2 inches and they didnt even seem to notice. Size seems to be a big factor in the freak out factor.
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Same here....I normally carry 3 knives....a Calypso clipped into my left front pocket, a CS Voyager (5") clipped into my right front, and a small knife like a Buck Prince (less than 2") for "sheeple interaction". I`ve never gotten a negative reaction to the small knives.
 
This is why I shy away from any non-coated or polished blades when I'm going to any panic-prone areas. My teflon coated BM 942 gets a lot less attention than my little Spyderco Q. Must be the black slimming effect, but people just don't seem to notice the 942. And my Kumo never sees the light of day in the office or on the street. But it's comforting to feel it sitting IWB.
My Chinook gets the worst reactions. Maybe it's the width and belly of the blade, or the loud "click" when the lock engages, but people freak out when they see it. I handed it over to security at a concert I went to years ago, as I was promised its return on my exit. Afterward, the lady said her superior confiscated it from her. I went to the guy, who must have been 65 or so. He said "I ain't giving it back. It's mine now. " I replied, "Yes. Yes, you are. Hand it over." He looked at me, and then forked it over as if I had just slapped him in the face. Now granted, it was stupid of me to walk into the venue with that particular blade, but I had to laugh as I walked out to my car. Lesson learned.
 
Confederate said:
she became angry when I attempted to apply logic
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This logic vs. emotion dichotomy manifests itself in many ways - so called global warming, intelligent design vs. the universe created itself, did monkeys turn themselves into astronauts or not, the political debate, economics, morality and so forth.

Its almost pointless to use facts and reason in a discussion with an emotion-centric individual. You defeat them intellectually, and their response is to call you names. Or better yet, they try to silence the debate before it even starts by saying it is "settled science" or that you are a wacky Christian or whatnot.

To some, knives are scary and evil, and scissors are not, though the latter can be just as lethal.

As for me, I think it pays to have an intimate knowledge of the law, to fully comply with it, and to respectfully tell anyone who doesn't like it to pound sand. In the workplace environment, the boss is the law, however. Fortunately for Powernoodle, I work from home and have no boss. Except Mrs. Powernoodle. :)

I've noted elsewhere that my bro in law works at a big chemical plant. He could turn a valve and blow up half the state, but they won't let him carry anything sharp. Brilliant.
 
PRONE2VIOLINS said:
This is why I shy away from any non-coated or polished blades when I'm going to any panic-prone areas. My teflon coated BM 942 gets a lot less attention than my little Spyderco Q.
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Intresting. I have always avoided black or "camo" blades for EDC due to the feeling that they would look too "tactical" and be more likely to be viewed with alarm by uneducated sheeple. :eek:

Maybe I need to re-think my view on this? Anyone else have any first hand experince with sheeple and black bladed knives? :confused:
 
PRONE2VIOLINS said:
My Chinook gets the worst reactions. Maybe it's the width and belly of the blade, or the loud "click" when the lock engages, but people freak out when they see it. I handed it over to security at a concert I went to years ago, as I was promised its return on my exit. Afterward, the lady said her superior confiscated it from her. I went to the guy, who must have been 65 or so. He said "I ain't giving it back. It's mine now. " I replied, "Yes. Yes, you are. Hand it over." He looked at me, and then forked it over as if I had just slapped him in the face. Now granted, it was stupid of me to walk into the venue with that particular blade, but I had to laugh as I walked out to my car. Lesson learned.
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Sounds like he liked your Chinook. With good reason, too. Seems like a wonderful knife.
 
"However, the picture of a raging, toothless, inbred vikings fan with a 6" ti-lite to shotgun a miller high life "

I have a complete mental picture of this, thanks for the laugh.
 
I was just amused about the way he caved when I told him to return it. If the guy had shown any legitimate authority in his actions, I would have just accepted a loss, but apparently, he thought that flashing a mall-cop badge and loud-talking at an asian kid would be enough for him to get his way.
 
Unfortunately my wife is very "cautious" when it comes to my knives. The other day at the cottage, I had my SOG Seal Pup Elite on my belt, out in the yard, making a fire, burning some garbage, etc. I come in and sit down on the couch, the knife handle is poking into my side, so I take it off and put it on the table at the end of the couch. She gives me one of those "What is that?", when I tell her it's my knife, she asks me to take it out of the family room. I'm thinking "WTF", so I go to the kitchen (open concept kitchen and family room), pick up the knife block and show her how my knife is smaller than most in the block. She still says, "I don't care, I don't want a hunting knife in my family room." :rolleyes: Oh, well, glad she didn't see the other 2 knives and multi-tool, I had on me. :p
 
Funny, I was working at a school and pulled out my little pocket knife to cut a piece of cord for an overhead projector screen, and of all people, the cooking teacher with a class in progress, complained, asked me why I carried it and told me how dangerous my knife was. Yeah that twelve year old with the butcher knife and butter on her hands is waaaay safer. On the other hand, I was cutting cord for the 4th grade teacher and tried to hide my big knife from her, and she asked, "OOOH! What kind of knife is that, my husband collects knives!"
 
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Lots of stories in this thread, and I find myself shaking my head going through them... I feel sorry for the unfortunate encounters of the other brothers...

I keep a knife at work to peel apples etc. during lunch hours. I recall one occasion when we organized a birthday party for our French boss. After we put the candles on the birthday cake we somehow felt that the candles were too long. I fetched my knife from my office to cut the candles to size. A lady colleague freaked out upon seeing the knife, saying 'that should be classified as a weapon'. I pointed out to her that the length of my 'weapon' is less than half that of the knife which the boss would be using to cut the cake, but to no avail. The boss himself heard our arguments and popped in to find out what was the fuss about.

When he saw my knife, he laughed. 'That is no weapon, lady,' he said to my colleague, with hints of contempt. 'That's an Opinel. Every French family has it.' He then turned towards me and smiled.. with approval. :D
 
I love seeing who freaks out and who doesn't. Separates the men from the boys and the intelligent, confident women from the losers.:thumbup:
 
mdauben said:
Intresting. I have always avoided black or "camo" blades for EDC due to the feeling that they would look too "tactical" and be more likely to be viewed with alarm by uneducated sheeple. :eek:

Maybe I need to re-think my view on this? Anyone else have any first hand experince with sheeple and black bladed knives? :confused:
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I always advocate plain or (better yet) mirror finish for civilian self defense knives because it intimidates people more than black / camo coat.

It doesn't mean your black Boker Jim Wagner RBB Serrated Tanto is not gonna look menacing. It just means that blade would cause so much more panic with mirror finish.

It truly is an interesting psychological effect. When you're presented with 2 identical blades, one in mirror finish the other with black Ti, the mirror finish blade will always look sharper. That effect works for me even though I know better.
 
I usually have my Mini Grip and an SAK classic on me at work. Depending on the situation is what I pull out.

Also, the ladies up front let me know when I have a package from ebay. They know it's probably a knife, and probably think I'm a psycho, but they know I'm relatively harmless...

Glenn
 
I can see the tactical finish seeming intimidating to people who are relatively familiar with knives, but the point of tactical finish is to reduce visibility. Black finishes also reduce the apparent size of a blade in comparison to polished finish.
I can have my 942 out, opened, make a quick cut, and have it folded and clipped without drawing too much notice, thanks to speed of the axis lock.
 
I always figured a black blade would look more threatening in an everyday situation due to the fact that people would realize it is purposely coated in a dark color in order to conceal it, hence making the knife look more suspicious... But reading the last few sets of posts got me to think about it and snapped open my BM551BK and wow... It doesn't look nearly as menacing as I thought it did/would - even with the edge / serrations catching the light, it doesn't look very intimidating compared to as my satin blades.
 
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