Knives that would me amazing with just one small change

smasak said:
Spyderco Military with bushing pivot.
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Spyderco Military with tip up clip option. I traded off 2 of them due to the clips being uncomfortable for me. If they would change that one thing I would buy another one as I really liked the blades length and slicing ability.
 
Make the cutting edge as long as possibe on the PM 2. I'm pretty sure there is room for a longer blade in the handle.

I only have 1 PM 2 that I got in a trade. I definately would buy more if the knife had longer blade with more cutting edge.
 
Maybe lock-backs have improved since the 90s, when I was sporting delicas, I don't know. Once I found other lock styles, like linear locks and such..........I have gone out of my way to avoid the lock-back style. I like a knife to feel like it wants to be open, not resists my efforts.

If you like the delica, it's a good knife. There is a reason it has been produced for so long, it's just not my cup of tea. (neither are any other lock-backs). It's a great slicer for the price (arguably the knife that got me into knives, past just carrying a tool to cut stuff.......).
 
co556guy said:
Maybe lock-backs have improved since the 90s, when I was sporting delicas, I don't know. Once I found other lock styles, like linear locks and such..........I have gone out of my way to avoid the lock-back style. I like a knife to feel like it wants to be open, not resists my efforts.

If you like the delica, it's a good knife. There is a reason it has been produced for so long, it's just not my cup of tea. (neither are any other lock-backs). It's a great slicer for the price (arguably the knife that got me into knives, past just carrying a tool to cut stuff.......).
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I'm a bit surprised lock-backs still exist with all the far more conveniently operated locking mechanisms available. Kind of like the flintlock of the knife world.
 
Mark_42 said:
I'm a bit surprised lock-backs still exist with all the far more conveniently operated locking mechanisms available. Kind of like the flintlock of the knife world.
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I like lockbacks for the same reason I first bought an axis lock...because they're symmetrical :)
 
Putting the pocket clip higher up on the manix 2 xl - it's a little too low for my tastes, still a great blade though.
 
chiral.grolim said:
Another derailment post, TERMINOLOGY:

The "choil" is an indentation in the cutting edge at or near the ricasso. Of the 3 knives pictured, NEITHER spyderco sports a choil, BOTH are indeed 'choil-less'. They both feature a prominent ricasso in the tang that extends beyond the actual cutting edge, and one even has jimping in the ricasso. But no choils. The Benchmade Onslaught sports the only choil there.

I realize that language 'evolves', but "groove" does not equate to "choil" when discussing knives. You wouldn't consider a scallop-serration a "choil", would you?

Thank you for your patience. ;)
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What you refer to as a choil is a sharpening choil. The Spyderco has a 50/50 choil because half is on the handle, half on the blade. What everyone is complaining about as a choil is what you are saying is not a choil. If the majority of people use a term one way, including the.company making the knife, I would say that is the correct use of the word. Very few knives would have a choil that your finger falls in and chokes up on the blade using your terminology. The few that might be out there would be very uncomfortable because your finger would rest in a thinned out area of the blade. It might not be cutting sharp, but it would surely dig into your finger and be uncomfortable.

Thank you for your patience.
 
I really like the southern grind bad monkey and would like to acquire one at some point. But if they ever bump up the blade steel a bit like to 154 cm that would suit me just fine.
 
Kershaw Blur, Leek, and Skyline - deep carry clip (the Skyline with a deep carry wire clip, like this mod done by a BF member, would be awesome)

Benchmade Griptilian - deep carry clip (the Contego clip actually looks great on the Griptilians)

Spyderco Delica/Endura/Stretch - deep carry wire clip, like on the Sage/Dragonfly/some others

Spyderco Superleaf - PB or bearing washers (the teflon washers just doesn't seem as smooth - granted mine just might not be worn in yet)

Victorinox Compact - replace the corkscrew with a Phillips screwdriver (like on the Tinker models)

Victorinox Alox Pioneer/Farmer - make the edges of the keyring hole rounded (vs. sharp corners), like on all the plastic-handled SAKs

Victorinox Alox Rambler - make them again
 
okay..... here's one.

ZDP Dragonfly...... in Carbon Fiber. o0o00oh!!!! Seriously, don't know how they missed that one.
 
flarp said:
Kershaw Blur, Leek, and Skyline - deep carry clip (the Skyline with a deep carry wire clip, like this mod done by a BF member, would be awesome)

Benchmade Griptilian - deep carry clip (the Contego clip actually looks great on the Griptilians)

Spyderco Delica/Endura/Stretch - deep carry wire clip, like on the Sage/Dragonfly/some others

Spyderco Superleaf - PB or bearing washers (the teflon washers just doesn't seem as smooth - granted mine just might not be worn in yet)

Victorinox Compact - replace the corkscrew with a Phillips screwdriver (like on the Tinker models)

Victorinox Alox Pioneer/Farmer - make the edges of the keyring hole rounded (vs. sharp corners), like on all the plastic-handled SAKs

Victorinox Alox Rambler - make them again
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Flarp, keep playing with the leaf, mine came around and I regret trading her off...... BIGTIME.
 
Mark_42 said:
I'm a bit surprised lock-backs still exist with all the far more conveniently operated locking mechanisms available. Kind of like the flintlock of the knife world.
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I refer lockbacks (midlocks specifically)over any other lock. :D If only they'd make a lockback military, would be mucho improve-o!
 
Benchmade Bedlam: Thicker blade stock, just a little! The blade is just too light compared to the massive, heavy handle.
Zero Tolerance 0200KW: Some sort of texture or grippiness on the flipper. I sold mine because the flipper was so slippery.
Strider SMF: Arctic Grey lego!
Some CRKTs: Remove the stupid secondary lock that engages automatically...
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
What you refer to as a choil is a sharpening choil. The Spyderco has a 50/50 choil because half is on the handle, half on the blade. What everyone is complaining about as a choil is what you are saying is not a choil. If the majority of people use a term one way, including the.company making the knife, I would say that is the correct use of the word. Very few knives would have a choil that your finger falls in and chokes up on the blade using your terminology. The few that might be out there would be very uncomfortable because your finger would rest in a thinned out area of the blade. It might not be cutting sharp, but it would surely dig into your finger and be uncomfortable.

Thank you for your patience.
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Thank you for the reply.

You are precisely correct that very few knives have a choil designed for choking up, and indeed many people consider even enlarged choils (designed to act as a forward finger-groove) very uncomfortable, which is partly responsible for the distaste many have for them (myself not included - I prefer an enlarged choil or recessed ricasso as is common on kitchen knives as these accommodate my hand safely in close proximity to the blade).

Here is a knife featuring both a finger-groove and a choil (grabbed from knifeart.com):
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Here is a knife featuring only a choil (grabbed from x-gear.com)
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Here is a knife featuring neither choil nor finger-groove (grabbed from kabar.com)
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A "choil", as I stated before, is an indentation at the transition between cutting edge and tang. Any groove/indentation/etc. beyond that transition is not a "choil", regardless of what confused users and producers may begin titling it, and "majority" has no bearing on the matter whatsoever (although a majority of people that have ever lived and used the word would not regard such a groove as a "choil" anyway). You may be surprised by what some today think "full tang" and "primary bevel" mean, including knife producers. But that is why I mentioned the "evolution" of language - someone uses the wrong word and then spreads this mis-information until the term has lost its original meaning. I have heard folks on the internet refer to ANY groove ANYwhere as a "choil" because they came across an actual (properly located) enlarged choil on a knife, able to be used as a finger-groove, and assumed that any groove large enough for a finger was indeed a "choil", and then encountered the plethora of "choiled" knives on which the choils are NOT large enough for a finger and so began distinguishing these as "sharpening choils", probably not comprehending why such a thing might even exist.

Language certainly evolves, words lose their meaning and thereafter require more complex descriptions. This is why I ask patience for my conservatism on the matter. By the historical definition of "choil" (which specifies location of the notch at the heel of the cutting edge), neither of the pictured spydercos features one. Instead, both feature grooves behind the integral guard in the ricasso where the metal remains full thickness as it transitions into the tang descending into the handle. These are finger-grooved, choil-less knives.

And just to be clear, this is not my personal definition of the word, and no one need take my word for it that this IS the definition, indeed I encourage others to research in depth the definition, history, and use of choils on knives. :thumbup: If anyone comes across reliable, researched information contradicting what I have stated, please let me know so that I may investigate the matter further. Thank you.
 
Reignman said:
okay..... here's one.

ZDP Dragonfly...... in Carbon Fiber. o0o00oh!!!! Seriously, don't know how they missed that one.
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http://www.spyderco.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21738&d=1364937541 close enough :)

For me

Spyderco lava with bigger thumb area, taking into consideration the size of the last segment in the thumb, the thumb ramp...dip...thingy is too small, bigger thumb area would be 10/10 ergos

delica/endura - choil

ZT0560 - thinner behind the edge (im gonna regrind mine)

EVERY KNIFE I BUY , at least 0.020 behind the edge or thinner so I dont have to regrind them all XD
 
*Pardon the continued slight detour folks*

chiral.grolim, As you know, my post's intention was to demonstrate how choils/grooves/notches/whatever can be useful and how it doesn't necessarily take away from the sharpened edge.

As far as linguistics, definitions, synonyms and pronouns, I will leave that expertise to you, I just want to be sure we are clear that I have no horse in your race. I was responding to someone that intimated their disliking for Spydercos with "choils", the owner of Spyderco also uses the term along with many others, like you said. I do not see any harm in the terms' evolution into something else. I believe you are correct but it is insignificant for what I was talking about. You did acknowledge the words and their meanings change, and indeed this happens all the time.

For you wordsmiths and purists out there, feel free to read my original post and just imagine that I used the proper term to your liking.;)

Thank you
 
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