knives with inherent design flaws

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I agree someone will always argue against all rational thought based on adoration of a brand but to me it doesn't change the fact certain flaws exist... just because people don't believe we landed on the moon doesn't mean we didn't... or did we lol anyway I hear you and agree but what the hell I like discussing blades.
marcinek said:
And there are bigger Strider fans who say it isn't an issue, and that anybody who says it is is a hater. Look, there's already a debate in this thread about pecieved flaws in the Kabar USMC.

While there atre, of course knives with undeniab?e design flaws, threads along this line invariably turn onto debates based on personal preference. Seen dozens of 'em.
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Here are two that come to mind:

Pradel-Brossard. Have one from them and the blade hits the backspring when closed. I'm calling it a design flaw rather than a QC issue because it's a common trait among many Laguiole knives; they're just made that way.

Schrade Cliphanger. The paper thin liner lock can only be described as a design flaw - a factory assembly worker didn't accidentally put those in there, it's just a horrible design.

One more, with a twist. Here's a design flaw that a company fixed... after about a hundred years. :eek: The original ring lock on Opinel knives was designed to lock the blade open only. By adding a simple notch in the ring, the knives now lock closed as well. :thumbup:
 
Wow I didn't know that about opinel, thank you. And I agree paper thin liner lock is just bad design.
Bob W said:
Here are two that come to mind:

Pradel-Brossard. Have one from them and the blade hits the backspring when closed. I'm calling it a design flaw rather than a QC issue because it's a common trait among many Laguiole knives; they're just made that way.

Schrade Cliphanger. The paper thin liner lock can only be described as a design flaw - a factory assembly worker didn't accidentally put those in there, it's just a horrible design.

One more, with a twist. Here's a design flaw that a company fixed... after about a hundred years. :eek: The original ring lock on Opinel knives was designed to lock the blade open only. By adding a simple notch in the ring, the knives now lock closed as well. :thumbup:
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Lionsteel Mini Opera G10

I bought one a couple years ago. I noticed when the blade is closed, the blade can be pushed against the pressure of the lock, causing the edge to come in contact with the backspacer. This always leaves a roll in the edge from constant contact.
 
Definitely a design flaw, I checked out lionsteels website and I liked some of the offerings but heard of design flaws that dissuaded me from buying.
Blues Bender said:
Lionsteel Mini Opera G10

I bought one a couple years ago. I noticed when the blade is closed, the blade can be pushed against the pressure of the lock, causing the edge to come in contact with the backspacer. This always leaves a roll in the edge from constant contact.
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At the risk of stirring the pot, I've heard it said that Benchmade Axis locks and Spyderco compression locks are more prone to blade play than other locking mechanisms including liner locks, frame locks, button locks, lockbacks, etc. I don't own a Spyderco with a compression lock and my Benchmades with Axis locks are tight, so I don't have any negative first hand experience to report. But there are some folks who won't buy a Benchmade with an Axis lock or a Spyderco with a compression lock because they feel those lock designs are flawed.
 
I've never heard that, but I've owned a pm2 and several benchmades with axis and they were all good with the exception of one benchmade that had blade play unless the pivot was so tight the blade wouldn't move easily.
bld522 said:
At the risk of stirring the pot, I've heard it said that Benchmade Axis locks and Spyderco compression locks are more prone to blade play than other locking mechanisms including liner locks, frame locks, button locks, lockbacks, etc. I don't own a Spyderco with a compression lock and my Benchmades with Axis locks are tight, so I don't have any negative first hand experience to report. But there are some folks who won't buy a Benchmade with an Axis lock or a Spyderco with a compression lock because they feel those lock designs are flawed.
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Lord knows people throw hissy fits over anything said about there favorite knife or company.. sigh I just want to say get a grip you idiot lol
marcinek said:
It's a good question. :thumbup: It just may not go the way you hope! :D
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Well the truth of the matter is that every folder has an inherent flaw. It's broken by design. ;) :D
 
Reminds me of the old programming joke: It's not a bug, it's a feature.
 
I have a s&w extreme survival button lock (non auto) that smacks a spacer when closed if the button is even slightly depressed when close to closed. Leaves big chips in the blade if you flip closed. Yeah, I know it's a cheap toy knife, but I don't even feel right about giving it away. Other than the plunger, there is no blade stop.
 
I've never owned a s&w knife and don't plan too. For the same money I'd get a Mora or opinel.
bflying said:
I have a s&w extreme survival button lock (non auto) that smacks a spacer when closed if the button is even slightly depressed when close to closed. Leaves big chips in the blade if you flip closed. Yeah, I know it's a cheap toy knife, but I don't even feel right about giving it away. Other than the plunger, there is no blade stop.
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bld522 said:
At the risk of stirring the pot, I've heard it said that Benchmade Axis locks and Spyderco compression locks are more prone to blade play than other locking mechanisms including liner locks, frame locks, button locks, lockbacks, etc. I don't own a Spyderco with a compression lock and my Benchmades with Axis locks are tight, so I don't have any negative first hand experience to report. But there are some folks who won't buy a Benchmade with an Axis lock or a Spyderco with a compression lock because they feel those lock designs are flawed.
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I had a SS ATR for quite a while. I only used it a little bit over the years, but the integral compression lock was rock solid and awesome. I wish that lock was on more knives. I owned a PM2 that I got in trade for a few weeks before I sold it. I never used it, but I checked the lockup to accurately describe it in my listing and it was rock solid. My data points are limited to two, but they've made a compression lock lover out of me.
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Got my name wrong, there. Also, yes, I watched an instructor snap one in half bare-handed to prove the point. There's also the simple point that a flaw is a flaw, regardless if failure occurs. The knife would be better and stronger if they would simply radius the transition.
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I agree.
 
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