knives with inherent design flaws

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All the BK models also have huge cutout's behind the handle scales that are subject to breaking during hard use. That's the one thing keeping me from buying quiet a few models.

Insipid Moniker said:
Classic Kabar fighting knife. Maybe they've since changed this, but they don't radius the transition to the stick tang. That point becomes a stress riser and commonly breaks when you push the knife hard.
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I agree the cut outs weaken the blade but even so they don't break too often. I've used my bk2 hard..very hard with no problems.
Forgedfixedblade said:
All the BK models also have huge cutout's behind the handle scales that are subject to breaking during hard use. That's the one thing keeping me from buying quiet a few models.
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Every Laguiole I've seen lacks a proper kick on the blade to keep the edge off the back spacer. They are therefore dull knives by design. Too bad, because they can be so pretty. And usually the corkscrew spring is so tight you need a pocket prybar to get it open. A bottle opener opener, as it were.
 
Never heard of them , time for Google foo.
daizee said:
Every Laguiole I've seen lacks a proper kick on the blade to keep the edge off the back spacer. They are therefore dull knives by design. Too bad, because they can be so pretty. And usually the corkscrew spring is so tight you need a pocket prybar to get it open. A bottle opener opener, as it were.
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marcinek said:
There are no design flaws for them...only improper technique.
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Exactly the justification for slip joints. Strength wise, theyre an objectively inferior design that was surpassed a long time ago by locking folders. Yet their fans keep insisting that theyre strong and everyone else just uses them wrong.....right:rolleyes:
 
Krissig12 said:
Exactly the justification for slip joints. Strength wise, theyre an objectively inferior design that was surpassed a long time ago by locking folders. Yet their fans keep insisting that theyre strong and everyone else just uses them wrong.....right:rolleyes:
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They're safe, just not AS safe. I find slippies convenient personally, but they definitely have less built-in insurance factor. :)
 
I don't think marcinek was talking about slip joints.
Krissig12 said:
Exactly the justification for slip joints. Strength wise, theyre an objectively inferior design that was surpassed a long time ago by locking folders. Yet their fans keep insisting that theyre strong and everyone else just uses them wrong.....right:rolleyes:
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They have there place I have a few sak I use now and again, but they won't kick a locking folder out my pocket.
FortyTwoBlades said:
They're safe, just not AS safe. I find slippies convenient personally, but they definitely have less built-in insurance factor. :)
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Krissig12 said:
Exactly the justification for slip joints. Strength wise, theyre an objectively inferior design that was surpassed a long time ago by locking folders. Yet their fans keep insisting that theyre strong and everyone else just uses them wrong.....right:rolleyes:
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That's because everybody DOES just use them wrong. ;)
 
Microtech Delta's pocket clip. That bugger gets caught on anything and nothing really prevents it from not pivoting.
Partially serrated blade. They're always on the most used part of my blade. I'd much rather use the fully serrated blade on a multitool over having it on my knife.
 
marcinek said:
And there are bigger Strider fans who say it isn't an issue, and that anybody who says it is is a hater. Look, there's already a debate in this thread about pecieved flaws in the Kabar USMC.

While there atre, of course knives with undeniab?e design flaws, threads along this line invariably turn onto debates based on personal preference. Seen dozens of 'em.
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Not all Striders develop lock rock so I don't think you can say its a design flaw. Now the blade slightly protruding the lanyard hole when in the closed position can be classified as a design flaw.
 
You were right marcinek
reapinItUP said:
Not all Striders develop lock rock so I don't think you can say its a design flaw. Now the blade slightly protruding the lanyard hole when in the closed position can be classified as a design flaw.
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shinyedges said:
You were right marcinek
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What exactly is the design flaw on current Striders that causes the lock rock than. I agree on previous generations the geometry led to excessive wear in a short amount of time but on current generations what exactly is the design flaw in the lock geometry. Many framelocks will develop "lock rock" but does that mean they all have a design flaw?
 
There are a PLETHORA of threads regarding your question. I won't hash it out in this thread. Enjoy your knife.
reapinItUP said:
What exactly is the design flaw on current Striders that causes the lock rock than. I agree on previous generations the geometry led to excessive wear in a short amount of time but on current generations what exactly is the design flaw in the lock geometry. Many framelocks will develop "lock rock" but does that mean they all have a design flaw?
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ZT 0560CBCF -- Great knife, but the design flaw is the composite blade with copper brazing, which made it impossible for the S110V steel to be hardened into the low 60s Rc, where that steel can really shine.

Spyderco Gayle Bradley -- Super knife, but lacks a relief so the lock can be disengaged. (Yes, I know some people think a hard-to-disengage lock is a safety feature, but that argument falls to the reality that quality knives with a decent relief -- such as the Military or Sebenza -- are not known for cutting off fingers.) Also, it's a little too clunky for one of the best-designed blades on the market.

Microtech DOC -- nightmare grind carries full spine thickness out to a half inch from the tip, making it a nightmare to use as an EDC. Also, proprietary hardware makes it difficult to impossible to repair or modify.

Benchmade Barrage 586 -- An incredible knife with super blade geometry, but the spring-assisted blade is silly nonsense on an axis-lock knife.
 
Thanks for stopping by lol :rolleyes:

Also I'm not sure what your "exactly" is for but use the search function in the upper right corner guy, I won't hold your hand and spoon feed you information do some reading. Thanks
reapinItUP said:
Exactly. Have fun hatin :)
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I thought OP was looking for things like sow belly knives with bone or horn handles tend to crack on the short end around the rivets.

ok. I'll shut up and get lost.
 
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