Knives you overestimated

CRK Umnumzaan - Nothing to get excited for really, I prefer by far my 25
Lionsteel Kur Metamorphosis - sub par flipper performance, fit and finish questionable
Spyderco Ulize - nice looking blade but way too flimsy/ flexible for feeling safe to use
 
Kod, why s30v? I am a steel idiot, but I thought that was supposed to be a decent everyday steel?

It microchips and rolls something fierce. I've had it from multiple brands, and all but Strider did that. Never again, too high maintenance.
 
I'm on the fence about my new Sebenza 21... had it for a week now. It's a cool looking knife, construction, everything that's ever been said about how solid etc... is true, and it looks awesome and everything. However, I'm a little bummed about the steel and how it doesn't get the edge I'd hoped for in a $400.00 knife. Now, that same day I got a Spyderco Endura 4... THIS is like a razor blade!! No surprise, as all of my Spydies are just amazing. The Sebenza doesn't seem to hold it's own even against my Delica 4 as far as a work horse goes. Had I had the chance to "try out" a Sebenza for a week, I probably wouldn't have bought one. All the online hype about it, yet hardly anyone has anything to say about the steel edge.. it's all about endlessly flipping it open and closed, listening to the "bank vault" click. I guess I would appreciate the knife more if I didn't need to use it, and I just sat in an office bored, opening and closing it... occasionally opening a piece of mail or cutting an apple once a week. I need a work knife that can WORK. I have 5 Spydies and so far I've yet to see ANY knife that can measure up to these. My new $400.00 CRK certainly doesn't.
 
I don't know if it's being overating, but more of a disappointment for personal preferences. None of the knives I'm listing are bad, they just usually don't make it into my EDC for one reason or another, or without modification. Therefore most of these are lower budget knives.

Spyderco PM2 and Military... I just can't get excited about them unless I "melt" the G10 edges. Then they make it into my rotation. I think part of the problem is that I prefer thicker handles.

G10 "upgrade" scales vs stock grivory. I like G10 scales, but sometimes the upgrade changes some tiny measurement from the FRN that alters the handling slightly, usually for the worse, while adding more weight. I prefer my FRN Grip scales to my G10 version for daily use.

SAK's. These are good knives. However I have tried so many versions that just don't do it for me. I like the handles, but don't like using the tools for actual work. I always carry a LM.

LM Charge Ti... I like the Wave better.

LM Skeletool... It's a good MT, but I get more tools with less weight with my Juice S2, and the Juice is the only LM which I can comfortably actually tighten screws for prolonged periods of time.

Rat 1 folder... Good knife, but I don't carry it. I want to modify the scales a bit, skeletonize the liners, and don't like the distance of the sharpened blade to the handle. I haven't spent time modifying it because I've moved on to other folders.

Rat 2 folder... Also a good knife, but I just can't get comfortable with it. I actually prefer the Zancudo, which I also modified to get it into my rotation.

Again, these are all good knives, but don't work as well with my personal preference.
 
Hmmm . . . looks like a POPULAR thread you have started here.
Thirty five years ago this (Buck 110; see first photo) was the Sebenza, for me anyway. Of course I pounced on it as soon as I had enough pennies saved up.

I had underestimated how much blade thickness, in this case excess thickness, can effect cutting ability of the things us City Slickers cut. I’m better off using the dull side of a putty spreader spatula for cutting up a thick cardboard box, or a thin box come to that.

In addition the tip just kind of has a mind of it’s own and wasn’t what was needed for what I do though . . . look at it . . . it is beautiful to behold; in fact the whole package one can just fondle and appreciate for long periods. a classic beauty if there ever was one.

The grip / handle . . . sheeewwhhhhhooooo . . . where do I start ?

too slick, too ass end heavy by a pound or two, lock is on the end rather than in the middle (must have been a reason for that that escapes me ) would be alright I guess to slide one’s fingers down to the end of the knife and let it dangle while operating the lock release if it weren’t for that slick finish and the weight adds that final straw to the pile by prying it from your slick helpless fingers. (I am exaggerating but you get the idea). Hardly FRN is it ?

Back then I was surprised at it not being particularly sharp or a good cutting tool and not easy for a complete nube to sharpen and it seemed to loose it’s sharpness fairly fast. Now I can reprofile it and really sharpen it but back then combined with the thickness it was a deal breaker and it became a paper weight. Literally. A job for which it is gloriously well suited and I can highly recommend it for by the way.

One positive note is : You know how the Cold Steel Ti Lite is billed to be an excellent blunt end weapon or skull cracker ? It can't hold a candle to using the Buck 110 that way. Like carrying a freekin 16 oz ball pean hammer in your pocket.

Love, love, love this knife and I will never sell it but it is not an EDC.




Way back then I replaced it with these two which surprised and pleased in a good way.


Yes, made a sheath for it and EDCed it for ten years. Frightening isn’t it ? !

And this little Buck. Sheeple friendly and all that. EDCed with and well before the above fixed blade. Was able to sharpen it and even cut stuff with it



The other knife I overestimated was the Manix in S110V

If I were headed to work for a week and needed a versatile knife I would have expected the Manix with this steel to have been number one from this line up; see photo below. In actuality it was a sorry dead last.

Why :

this particular batch of this alloy did not live up to the norm for S110V literally the Opinel in Carbon would have performed BETTER and LONGER. No exaggeration.

Far more difficult to work the lock release one handed than expected (I had to develop “technique” and dexterity not to mention stamina to operate it. I work with my hands with tools repairing fine machines all day so one would think . . . perhaps . . . closing a knife . . . a knife that was designed to be closed one handed . . . would be within my abilities.

The closed knife, to my surprise, was not a pocket hog for me but I was surprised at how limited it was in grip options and versatility specifically to cutting angle changes once deployed.

I could say many good things about it but these were the surprises.

A good surprise was how well it opened using a middle finger flick; none of my other Spydie hole knives come close. I miss that.

 
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OVER ESTIMATED knife purchases.... first one that comes to mind is the Kabar Becker BK-2. I just can't bring myself to like this tank. I bought it because of all the hype a couple of years ago. It was a purchase at a knife shop, so I handled it prior to buying. Not for me....

The SOG Northwest Ranger.... first SOG I purchased. Didn't like it. i believe it was the partially serrated blade, but that was indeed my first partially serrated bladed knife (current ones are not partially serrated). So, again, I blame no one. It just wasn't for me. I also don't care much for the rubber handle (as I recall). Been a while (years) since I picked this knife up from my pile.

I was not completely taken with the Spyderco Endura 4. Nothing wrong with the knife. It was one of the early Spydies I purchased and it just was a bit bigger than I liked. I bought a Delica 4 not long after and love that knife.

I overestimated my liking of the Ringed Razel made by CRKT. It is just not the kind of knife I would carry. I consider it a work knive. The large folding version gets a fair amount of work use.

Now, I really don't get my self all worked up about a knife purchase (handmade or otherwise). So, I really don't feel bad if I don't like something as much as many people. Don't really have any knife needs that are not fulfilled.
 
Manix sv110- I wanted to like the manix but the lock was awkward for me.
Most flippers- I do have a couple that I kept zt 0909 and zt0450 but every other flipper I own I got rid of. I just cant seem to get into the flipper craze.
CRK sebenza 21- when I first go this knife I was really disappointed but the more I used it the more it grew on me it makes its way into my pocket most of the time. the micarta inlay versions didn't do anything for me.
 
Spyderco Pm2 and I bought many times to try. Just not for me

Interesting.
I'm between buying my second Para2, for a user rather than my safe queen, and buying an Ouroboros instead. I want another axis lock (speaking of ease of use NOW THAT IS AN EASY TO USE LOCK RELEASE ! ! ! !) I'm with you . . . I may just buy the Ouroboros . . . only big buts in the way are : Price of the Ouro for what you get (seriously ? ? ?) and blade steel . . . actually I might rather have the VG10 in the Ouro over the S30V. I just don't have enough experience with the S30V and at this point it seems the former would hold a hair popping edge longer and the latter a "working" edge longer. I like the popping of hairs / sick-slick type of edge.
 
PM2, I've tried it in several flavors, the only one I still own today is the camo/dlc one I was given by my wife/kids (they picked it out on their own as a surprise without any hints so I do love it) but other than that nothing about them does anything for me :(

The Camo/DLC is wayyyyyy coooool !
I'd keep it if I was ever lucky enough to have someone give me one.
 
The Buck 110 comes to mind quickly -- too heavy, too weak, too hard to carry, too old school.

The Spyderco K2 in 10V -- too fragile and the ergos didn't work for me. Heat treat was good.

The Sebenza is incredibly well made, but the steel is too soft for my uses, the ergos are blah and the looks are blah.

And several customs that had terrible heat treats, poor grinds and incompetently sharpened edges (dull or wired).
 
Large Sebenza 21
Had horrible lock stick that developed within the first few days of purchasing it new from a very reputable vendor. CRK determined it to be a bad lock and repaired it under warranty. I had the knife in my possession five days in the first 7 weeks of ownership. It came back absolutely perfect from the factory, but by that point it was hard to swallow waiting so long. Smart customer service would've just sent me a new knife right away. The experience left a bad taste in my mouth, so I sold it and will probably never buy a Sebenza again.
 
INFI vs 3000 psi concrete (20% fly ash content). Specfically, a Busse FAT ASH-1 dropped on a garage floor. I was half expecting the FAT ASH-1 to carve out a divot. Nope. It went the other way around :mad:
 
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This is a great thread! So many of the knives I love are on others' "disappointment" list! It just proves different grinds for different kinds! I hope this thread stay on the rails without bashing, piling-on, or arguments.

For me, the PM 2 did not live up to the hype. I still think it's a good knife, and it remains my go-to working blade. Performance to price is great. Unfortunately it carries teribly in the front pocket due to it's size, shape, and clip. I guess I just expected angels singing in the heavens based on everything folks say about it. Maybe angels' robes robes have wide pockets. :D

Other knives that have disappointed me:
Delica 4 --fit & finish (kept after fixing)
BM 940-2--fit & finish (kept after fixing)
Lionsteel Mini--not my thing, I guess (returned)
CRKT Ignitor--yuck (returned)
 
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I forgot to add to my earlier post:
Case SS Trapper... wanted to like this knife so much, but it never would take an edge. It looks older and worn more than any other knife I own simply through endless sharpening. I've hand-sharpened, and I've tried on THREE different fixed sharpening systems and still wouldn't get more than a butter knife edge. Now, I've got a SS Large Stockman that you can shave with, so I know it's not just that "Tru-sharp" that Case uses.
Queen Cutlery Canoe: Same thing, different steel... endless sharpening with zero results. The knife looks great, but that's about it.
 
Large Sebenza 21
Lionsteel SR1A
ZT 0801, 0561, 0350
Spyderco Southard, Nilakka, PM2, Caly 3
Benchmade
ESEE 5
Anything with S30V
Emerson
Heavy, "hard use" knives

Whoa, KOD! There are some mighty popular knifes that are described on that list. I do agree that some are overrated, but no more so than much of the knife market these days.
 
It is funny how people differ. I have a tops tahoma. Had I picked it up in person, I would not have laid out the cash, yet someone likes it, or it would not sell. I would not say it disappointed me, but it is not for me. I need to send it down the road.

I forgot one, the brk bravo 1. Love the feel, shape etc, but the steel is so soft it rolls and chips out when processing our homegrown rabbits. When I called brk, I was told I was abusing it by splitting the pelvis of a 3 or 4 month old rabbit. It is still cartilage at that point.
Im curious what steel were you using in the bravo one that did that?
 
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