Knock Off Alert!!

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Well, I just got back from the NY Custom Knife show. Didn't see Linton there or anything resembling them. The exhibitors list handed out at the show also didn't have Linton on there. There seemed to be quite a few makers who were listed on the website but who weren't there at the show. Scott Cook being the one I was most looking foward to seeing but wasn't there.

Loads of fun, I might post a different thread about the show and my scores. Just thought I'd update you guys on the Linton thing. If other members who attended end up seeing Linton there then I'm gonna go have my brain and vision checked.
 
We had Taiwanese members call Linton Cutlery Co. yesterday and the wife of the owner who looks after the storefront said that the owner, Mr. Lin, has already flown to New York to attend the show with a small group of associates. The wife told our member that if he needed to get in touch with Mr. Lin, they would be in rooms registered under "Charlie Chi" at the New Yorker Hotel. The New Yorker Hotel's number is: (212) 971-0101.

Linton Cutlery Co. SHOULD be there, maybe not on the list but they should definitely have a table or booth. Perhaps someone can ask the show organizers or attending knifemakers where Linton is located as there are over 100 tables at the show. We hope others who attend the show can help corroborate or refute the above report. Thank you.

Linton Cutlery Co.'s company phone in Taiwan is:

011-886-2-2709-0896 or
011-886-2-2709-0905

Anyone interested may call to confirm their planned attendance.
 
Either they were not officially there, or they heard somehow that we are looking for them.
 
Well, I'm heading back tomorrow (Saturday) because there were a couple of knives that are still tempting me as I sit typing here tonight. There were 2 seperate rooms of exhibitors, and I walked both rooms for 4 hours ogling knives. I'll check again tomorrow but I'm pretty sure there was no Linton, unless my knife senses were so accute that I only zeroed in on quality knives and automatically not noticed cheap rip-offs.
 
Originally posted by Grapevine
Well, I just got back from the NY Custom Knife show. Didn't see Linton there or anything resembling them.

When you was at the show did you happen to see Les Robertson's table? If you did if you had turned 180º you would have seen the Linton table, I know I did, and so did some of the makers that were being ripped off. I heard I missed all of the hub-bub, and it sounds like it was no more than a tempest in a teapot. I did see people looking at the knives with interest, and the guy behind the table smiling most of the time. So I don't think anyone was giving him a hard time. I personally didn't handle any of the knives, (no interest) nor did I say anything to the guy, (none of my business).
 
My mistake for the faulty report then. Sorry all.

I did see Les Robertson's table. And funny that you should mention it because I remember that the tables across from him didn't interest me much at all. Weird, it didn't dawn on me that one of them was Linton at all. Guess I was right about my accute knife taste :)
 
what i really want to know is whats the quality on these knives? i wouldn't personally get one since those types of tactical knives aren't my style anyways but i really want to know what kinda of ripoff costs 180 bucks!
 
Dear 'hkcathk',

I saw your postings on several forums in the us now - and it's too on the german knife collectors forum (posted by a german maker who got this by email).

What I think is very strange with this:

- althoug I did extensive research in the web regarding the 'Handmade Knife Collectors Association of Taiwan and Hong Kong' I wasn't able to find anything about this association. I too asked a friend of mine who is a taiwanese attending university here in Germany to search on the web in case all the information about your association could be in chinese - but nope - nothing about the 'Handmade Knife Collectors Association of Taiwan and Hong Kong'.

You state in your postings 'we have a strong Internet presence' - so please, where is your internet presence, just provide us with an url, I think it might be interesting to many of us here as long as the knife collectors and makers community is a world wide community and we're happy to know and learn from associations in other countries?

BTW: Did you publish this pamphlete on your 'we have a strong Internet presence' too - in case - can you provide me a url?

- You are accusing Linton of several heavy crimes (althoug this might not be crimes under all jurisdictions) - including but not limited to: 'fabricates and sells products that are illegal in Hong Kong and Taiwan', eventually violating patents, copyrights, or trademarks of US companies or makers and so on. Why don't you get in touch with the autorities in Hong Kong and Taiwan, informing them that there is someone violating the law by selling dangerous weapons? I think your authorities there would be happy to act in the appropriate way according to their jurisduction;

- I'm very uncomfortable with someone who is denuciating any other person, community, association or company of crimes or violating laws - anonymously! You didn't tell os your full name or your address and you are hiding behind a hotmail account - althoug you claim to have a strong Internet presence - when I checked last time with hotmail.com it wasn't in any way related to knifes or to the 'Handmade Knife Collectors Association of Taiwan and Hong Kong'.

I have the strange feeling that you aren't what you are telling us you are - perhaps you could be a competitor to Linton - trying to kick them out of the market - and perhaps you are trying to exploit knife collectors, makers and communities around the world for this purpose?

Cui bono?

Just my 2cents.

To make this clear:

I'm in no way related to Linton nor am I in any way knowingly related to anyone who is related to Linton, I don't own a knife from Linton and I'm not interested in buying one in the future. I'm just a knife collector (Microtech) - from Germany - so please excuse my bad english.

Regards
Markus M. Schwarz
 
Markus,

The strong internet presence I speak of is the independent registrations of a majority of our association's members on the large internet knife discussion such as this one, KnifeForums.com, TacticalForums.com, CKDForums.com, CNKN Forum (http://cnkn.yeah.net), and Knifenut Forums (http://knifenut.idv.tw).

Now please re-read my posts. All of them. Carefully this time. You will find the answers to your questions.

Then please study the links provided for Linton's website, compare them with the REAL knives by Strider etc., imagine yourself in the position of the collector who supports the REAL products only to see their investments cheapened by rip-offs. If you can do all that, perhaps you can come over to our side.

Feel free to email me at: hkca_thk@hotmail.com

Regards,
Robert Miu
President, H.K.C.A.
 
So did anything transpire with these characters on Saturday? Anyone see their wares or interact with them? Attendees please elaborate.

I'm still bummed that my Strider WB has been knocked-off.:( :( :(
 
All I can say is it has been dealt with directly, and Linton has been made aware of the position they are in.

Edited to add: I cannot and will not share any information, so please don't ask me to do so. This is a matter between Linton and the knife companies whose designs they have copied.

:D

~B.
 
Sheesh. You make it sound like some New Yawk dock workers visited Linton and told dem if dey was ever ta show up wid their knock offs again dey was gonna swim wid da fishes.
 
:D

It was handled professionally by several parties at several different times during the show. Firmly, but professionally.
 
It was handled professionally by several parties at several different times during the show. Firmly, but professionally.


That's all we are going to get huh?? :( I am noisy and hoping to get some good gossip :)
 
In the past few days, I have received numerous phone calls and emails regarding this thread, from my clients and collectors all over the world with feelings ranging from disappointment to anger.

These passionate conversations broke my heart.

Indeed, there is absolutely NO excuse for unauthorized reproductions, not from a moral standpoint, not from a business standpoint.

On behalf of all my customers, I would like to thank all those who have been supportive of this issue, especially HKCATHK and Mr. Brian Jones.

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James Chuang
TACEQUIP Knives & Tools - Authorized STRIDER Knives Dealer in Taiwan
 
No offense, but how do you fit into this?? Are you just a Strider Dealer in Taiwan?? Or do you have an affiliation with this company?? Just nosey as previuosly stated :)
 
Just an authorized STRIDER dealer, and got too many complaints from my friends and customers in the past few days, so I thought it was time to post in here.

James
 
Take it easy, BadGuy -- look here for James' bonafides:

http://www.striderknives.com/html/links.html

James, thanks for the kind words, but I didn't really do anything but pass along a message, scold the guy a bit, and tell people at his table "If you want real Striders or TOPS instead of the knock-offs here, their tables are right over there..." :D He stared at the floor when I did that...LOL!

~B.
 
Hilarious. :D :D :D

(edited to add: I guess the only thing these losers were making a connection with was the floor:rolleyes: )
 
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