Krup 4116 stainless steel

yamato said:
I do not own anything from CS but if they say krupp 4116 was used, i do not see why is there a need to doubt that.
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Pretty simple - most creative CS marketing action was Tanto introduced to US market as Japanese style blade. It has nothing to do with real Samurai Tanto (banned in Japan after WWII), they simplify their production, but presented it as an old Japanese blade style.

This is enough for me to not to trust their marketing any more. However there are some other things they do I do not like. For Example this "Military Classic" or ODA is nothing but cheap replica of Randal#1, as ell as USS cheap replica of SOG Bowie... And so on.

Thanks, Vassili
 
thanks for your reply I see where you are coming from. Marketing hype can sometimes be a pain.

After reading a bit of the post, seems that Cs doesnt seem to be very popular. Will buy a spyderco someday, it seems very well liked.

Btw, have seen a video of a their GI tanto that was put through the abuse test. tough stufff but that was a carbon steel
 
yamato said:
thanks for your reply I see where you are coming from. Marketing hype can sometimes be a pain.

After reading a bit of the post, seems that Cs doesnt seem to be very popular. Will buy a spyderco someday, it seems very well liked.

Btw, have seen a video of a their GI tanto that was put through the abuse test. tough stufff but that was a carbon steel
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They sell knives under their brand from different manufacturers, so some of them pretty good - like laminated blades with VG-1 in core made in Japan (again for some reason they call this as SanMai) or ade by Cammilus in US CarbonV line...

Thanks, Vassili
 
knarfeng said:
I have to disagree with you on that point Vassili. If they advertise that it is Krupp steel, then it has to be made in a Krupp factory. That factory may be in China or Brazil, but it is still owned and run by Krupp. Otherwise they would advertise 1.4116 steel the way that Spyderco and Benchmade advertise the Chinese counterparts to AUS8. 1.4116 is an open specification. Anyone can make steel and call it that as long as it meets the compositional requirements. "Krupp 4116" is not open; only Krupp can make it.
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That's the point I was trying to make earlier.

Many here may not like Mr. L.T. but he is certainly not stupid. If he's calling it xyz it's xyz.

Now if it were an xyz analog you can bet your lilly white booty that he would call it Super xyz or Zuper Duper xyz, or xyz Modified or.. you get the point.
 
OrangeJoe said:
That's the point I was trying to make earlier.

Many here may not like Mr. L.T. but he is certainly not stupid. If he's calling it xyz it's xyz.

Now if it were an xyz analog you can bet your lilly white booty that he would call it Super xyz or Zuper Duper xyz, or xyz Modified or.. you get the point.
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Well, I just google it - may be I am not patient enough but all what I found is about CS knives, so it seems like only CS uses this name no other refference.

So dont bet your booty on this...

Thanks, Vassili.
 
nozh2002 said:
Well, I just google it - may be I am not patient enough but all what I found is about CS knives, so it seems like only CS uses this name no other refference.

So dont bet your booty on this...

Thanks, Vassili.
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LOL I'm very fond of my booty. I don't bet it on anything.:D
 
Just got my CS Finn Bear knife. This knife is scary sharp! It cut me just by bumping my hand lightly. Solid construction, light weight, good value for the money IMO. Goes into my car as a standby. Perfect.
 
Good for what purpose? Preparing food in a camp kitchen? OK. Opening boxes? OK. Throwing in a glove compartment? OK. Primary bushcrafting/survival blade? NO! Most people must prioritize where they put their money. Invest in the best you can afford for your primary survival knives. Where it does not really matter, good enough is OK. That being said, a $15 knive is much better than no knife.
 
this is a most impressive thread necro for a first time poster - found something from 12 years ago? : P
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While this thread stumbles around in undeath, I’d just like to say three things:

1. Krupp 4116 is garbage steel that is generally so soft it’s legitimately more difficult to put an edge on by hand than S30V
2. CRKT used it in a knife that retails for $130
3. Cold Steel used it in a knife that retails for less than $10

Edit: MAN are there a lot of banned posters in this thread
 
I'm going to defend krupp 4116; it can be heat treated to a decent level, much like 420hc can (and is) by buck.
The formula is fairly similar to 420hc... so it's really not 'garbage', but because it is often used in budget lines I expect the ht is neglected & kept soft. Thus, edge retention is generally poor in those cases. It should be able to perform close to buck 420hc.

lot's of companies use it for decent kitchen knives: wusthof and henckels (...not saying these are 'high end' but they are also not garbage)
http://www.zknives.com/knives/steels/steelgraph.php?nm=1.4116

edited to add: here is a maserin santoku in 4116, hrc 57-58 - I expect it will be much better than your cold steel 4116 iterations...
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/ME...919pom-mediterraneo-santoku-black-pom-handles
 
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